Any rumors about Buffy the Vampire Slayer show coming out on Blu-ray?

[Nico Darko]

Yeah, I love to watch Chosen in widescreen, Hush and Primeval work really well too. But there's only a handful of episodes where the 16:9 frame is actually looking better (and that's only certain scenes). The vast majority of the episodes don't have huge battles and special effects, most of them feel rather intimate and the dead space on the side can be very distracting.

That's why I would love both aspect ratios on Blu-ray, but will always pick 4:3 if I can only have one. Because many shots would have to be zoomed-in to hide the "goofs" in widescreen, so cropping the sides won't make it true 4:3. That's why I'm wondering how they can offer both formats.


EDIT : If they really won't give us both aspect ratios, and choose widescreen, I still think a 1.66 frame would work nicely for Buffy. Not as good as 1.33, but it would be an acceptable compromise, and they wouldn't need to crop as much picture to hide the "goofs".

[Drewbee87]

For me, I'd rather have extra footage with nothing going on than have no footage at all on the left and right side. That's more distracting to me, even more so when I know that what I'm watching has more footage on the sides of the frame. I'm more accepting with movies/shows that are 4:3 when that's the only way they can be viewed.

[Nico Darko]

The problem is that it's not always extra space with nothing going on. Very often stuff are happening on the sides that you shouldn't see, or that are simply catching my eye and distracting me. You have all those bad obvious "goofs" (the cheese man in 4x22, the various lighting equipment, members of the crew...) but you also have many many shots with continuity errors. Most people won't notice them, but they really bother me. And there are so many that I doubt Fox will take the time to remove them.

In many cases there's technically no error but the framing is wrong, as you can see half a nose, or a hand on the right side on the frame, or other things that aren't "goofs" but still shouldn't be in the frame.

[#Darren]

Originally Posted by theprestige85

Goofs, errors, whatever, i'm just sick and tired of people showing why the stretched screen compromises the image. We get it, it's the wrong aspect ratio and its silly to have crew members at the edge of the screen and I agree, but why continuously draw attention to it is all i'm saying.

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

To demonstrate why it's wrong so that less people will natter Fox to release these in 16:9. How is that a bad thing?

Agreed. Vigilance in necessary to fight the good fight and save OAR. No different to the DVD crusades.

If we remain silent, this battle will have been in vain.

[#Darren]

Originally Posted by theprestige85

I think most people would want it in it's original aspect ratio. Theres only a select few who wouldn't.

I would say a very verbal and persistent few if that is the case.

[Drewbee87]

Unless it was a crew member or camera in the shot, I didn't notice a lot of the goofs in the 16:9 versions. Even after finding out about the ones I didn't notice, I still don't notice them while I'm watching the 16:9 versions. This talk about goofs in the 16:9 versions has me thinking about two major goofs that I noticed when these two episodes first aired. The crew member walking with a boom mic in "This Year's Girl" and the wire that pulls the door open in "Showtime".

[Buffdale]

Don't forget "Welcome to the Hellmouth" and "The Harvest" today ! I record both. I remain hopeful that they will be better than last week...

[slainery]

So, people are writing about the HD broadcast because no actual blu-ray release has been even remotely announced. Okay..

[Buffdale]

Originally Posted by slainery

So, people are writing about the HD broadcast because no actual blu-ray release has been even remotely announced. Okay..

That being said, it's not once your Blu-Rays are in your living room that you gonna complain .

[slainery]

Originally Posted by Buffdale

That said, it's not once your Blu-Rays are in your living room that you gonna complain .

Tu pourrais me la refaire en français stp?

[Buffdale]

Ok. Beaucoup plus simple pour moi ! :P

Cela dit, ce n'est pas une fois que tes Blu-Ray seront dans ton salon que tu pourras te plaindre [si la qualité est mauvaise] ^^. La diffusion étant ce qu'elle est, il faut mieux prévenir que guérir. Si rien n'est corrigé, il va falloir attendre combien de temps encore pour une nouvelle remasterisation ? :/

[Nico Darko]

Here, I just made this comparison out of curiosity. The 1.33 frame is still the best, but 1.66 would be better than 1.78. You would have slightly less dead space, the "goofs" would be less obvious, or easier to fix by a small zoom-in. It would still be widescreen, and I'm sure most people wouldn't mind having those small black bars on the sides (they wouldn't even appear with the overscan). All in all, 1.66 could be an okay compromise.

[Drewbee87]

The 1.33:1 frame is the best, in your opinion. And there's no overscan on my TV. I like to keep it set to dot-by-dot so no image is lost on any side of the frame. lol

[slainery]

Originally Posted by Buffdale

Ok. Beaucoup plus simple pour moi ! :P

Cela dit, ce n'est pas une fois que tes Blu-Ray seront dans ton salon que tu pourras te plaindre [si la qualité est mauvaise] ^^. La diffusion étant ce qu'elle est, il faut mieux prévenir que guérir. Si rien n'est corrigé, il va falloir attendre combien de temps encore pour une nouvelle remasterisation ? :/

T'avoueras que c'est quand un peu limite, mais bon, c'est assez compréhensible sachant que 20th Century Fox elle-même est à l'origine de la remastérisation des épisodes.

Ce qui me dérange aussi, c'est le débat sur l'OAR: il est évident que la Fox a adopté une position assez claire sur le format 16:9 en Europe. Le fait que certains y soit si véhément opposés en est agaçant à la longue, surtout quand la Fox a tendance à différencier ses bonus et ses formats selon les régions.

[iank]

What some people fail to seem to understand is that many of us have been watching seasons 4-7 in widescreen for over a decade. For us, that IS the right version. And aside for about two instances, I've never seen the slightest thing wrong with it and it looks great. I still fear the "right" ratio will make it look unnecessarily cramped and just plain weird.

[slainery]

Originally Posted by Nico Darko

Here, I just made this comparison out of curiosity. The 1.33 frame is still the best, but 1.66 would be better than 1.78. You would have slightly less dead space, the "goofs" would be less obvious, or easier to fix by a small zoom-in. It would still be widescreen, and I'm sure most people wouldn't mind having those small black bars on the sides (they wouldn't even appear with the overscan). All in all, 1.66 could be an okay compromise.

Hmm... I'd rather have the 1.78, thanks.

Originally Posted by iank

What some people fail to seem to understand is that many of us have been watching seasons 4-7 in widescreen for over a decade. For us, that IS the right version. And aside for about two instances, I've never seen the slightest thing wrong with it and it looks great. I still fear the "right" ratio will make it look unnecessarily cramped and just plain weird.

Exactly. I've watched 4-7 both in widescreen and 4:3, and I personally don't find the widescreen as "insulting" as some seem to do. If it was good for regions 2 and 4and actually looks good, then why not. Geez, I don't see the posters in the X-Files thread whine about it 24/7.

[Buffdale]

Originally Posted by slainery

T'avoueras que c'est quand un peu limite, mais bon, c'est assez compréhensible sachant que 20th Century Fox elle-même est à l'origine de la remastérisation des épisodes.

Ce qui me dérange aussi, c'est le débat sur l'OAR: il est évident que la Fox a adopté une position assez claire sur le format 16:9 en Europe. Le fait que certains y soit si véhément opposés en est agaçant à la longue, surtout quand la Fox a tendance à différencier ses bonus et ses formats selon les régions.

Tu sais, je pense que toute première diffusion HD pour les anciennes séries (comme Friends et X-Files), est aussi faite pour avoir des retours techniques, des avis etc. Sinon, pourquoi toujours faire la diffusion sur des petites chaînes ou dans d'autres pays (X-Files en Allemagne) ? C'est vraiment LE moment pour se manifester. Car une fois le support physique terminé, il n'y a plus de retour en arrière.

Pour le débat disons que y a l'opposition Whedon/Public voulant une série conforme aux "normes actuelles". Ce qui d'ailleurs n'est pas une obligation m'enfin bon... Chacun à le droit bien sûr d'avoir son avis. De toute manière, ultimement, c'est Fox qui aura le dernier mot...

[Nico Darko]

English please, posting in French is a little rude to the others members, don't you think ?

[Drewbee87]

From what I've seen over the years ever since the widescreen versions became available, I've seen just as many people say they want the show in 16:9 as people who want it in OAR. This is from reading comments on Joss Whedon forums, Buffy forums, Amazon, iTunes and many other sites. I think it's 50/50, you can't just go by what people think on one site.

[Drewbee87]

Originally Posted by Nico Darko

English please, posting in French is a little rude to the others members, don't you think ?

Although it's not perfect, there's Google Translate... lol