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Old 01-18-2018, 10:17 PM   #2461
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[Show spoiler]Does anyone see Coco's death as poetic justice? When he is examining Rachel's remains, he refers to K as a "skinner," which is a pejorative term for replicants, thereby indicating that he is harbors anti-replicant sentiments. However, he is later killed by Luv, who is a replicant.


What do you all think of this?
Feels like a reach...
But what makes it poetic to you?
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:51 PM   #2462
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Looks almost exactly as it did in the theater.

Not really shocked, but if you saw it theatatrically you won't be surprised to see this movie isn't exactly a highlight monster. This movie is more about bleak muted colors, with more of an eggshell/paper whites, which is Roger deakins style. Same deal with sicario. Razor sharp image, though.

That being said, it's not botched up and too dim to watch, which I have seen with some hdr movies. It's essentially the perfect theatrical experience, which is what deakins operates in and wants us to see
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:03 PM   #2463
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:28 PM   #2464
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Just finished watching this and I’m actually surprised people are mixed on the PQ of the movie. Watching on an OLED I see absolutely nothing to complain about. The resolution is very crisps and the colors are absolutely stunning and amazing. I just simply can’t see how someone can be disappointed by it honestly. Yeah there’s not a lot of vibrant colors but that’s not what this movie has to offer generally but even when they do rarely is looks amazing like when Joi is wearing her yellow rain coat in a very bleak junk yard... the colo just pops out and looks amazing. I think this looks better than when I saw it in theater and I’m absolutely happy I bought it. Can’t wait to watch the 3d version.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:57 PM   #2465
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Looks almost exactly as it did in the theater.
Yes, and I screened it first at an AMC Dolby Cinema, followed by a Sony Digital 4K setup at an Alamo Drafthouse. The UHD disc is the best I've seen so far.

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It's essentially the perfect theatrical experience, which is what deakins operates in and wants us to see.
I'm with you here, although screening Dunkirk in IMAX 70MM at the Lincoln Square was my top theatrical in 2017, BR2049 in Dolby Cinema gave it a good run for all the marbles.
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Old 01-19-2018, 12:43 AM   #2466
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Saw Blade Runner 2049 in IMAX and I felt the open matte framing make it feel more intimate than larger than life, save for the Sea Wall fight and the Vegas landscape shots.

I seriously think 2.39:1 is the better framing, but Deakins really knows how to nail his shots regardless of framing.
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Old 01-19-2018, 01:19 AM   #2467
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Saw Blade Runner 2049 in IMAX and I felt the open matte framing make it feel more intimate than larger than life, save for the Sea Wall fight and the Vegas landscape shots.

I seriously think 2.39:1 is the better framing, but Deakins really knows how to nail his shots regardless of framing.
Why does Deakins get all of the credit for the look of the film? Shouldn't Villeneuve get some credit too?
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Old 01-19-2018, 01:40 AM   #2468
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Blade Runner 2049 was a tremendous experience in Lincoln Square IMAX (even though it wasn't projected on 70MM film) and I really wanted to see it at the Dolby Cinema but that never fell through.
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Old 01-19-2018, 05:25 AM   #2469
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2049 is an epic sci-fi noir masterpiece.
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Why does Deakins get all of the credit for the look of the film? Shouldn't Villeneuve get some credit too?
It depends on how collaborative the effort of the visual look was between the director and DP. Some directors are not Hitchcock where they call all the shots and may as well not have a DP at all.
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Old 01-19-2018, 05:53 AM   #2471
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2049 is an epic sci-fi noir masterpiece.
Absolutely yes. Easily the best film I saw in 2017.

Blade Runner & Blade Runner 2049 join a select group of films where the first and second films are both masterpieces: Godfather & Godfather Part II, Alien & Aliens, and now the Blade Runner(s).

The review over at High-Def Digest nailed it:

https://bluray.highdefdigest.com/523...unner2049.html

I will watch any Denis Villeneuve film, very interested in his Dune project.

P.S. I hope for no more Blade Runner films, these two are all we need.
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:00 AM   #2472
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Absolutely yes. Easily the best film I saw in 2017.

Blade Runner & Blade Runner 2049 join a select group of films where the first and second films are both masterpieces: Godfather & Godfather Part II, Alien & Aliens, and now the Blade Runner(s).

The review over at High-Def Digest nailed it:

https://bluray.highdefdigest.com/523...unner2049.html

I will watch any Denis Villeneuve film, very interested in his Dune project.

P.S. I hope for no more Blade Runner films, these two are all we need.
Just hope he has more control over Dune than Lynch did.
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:03 AM   #2473
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....and I really wanted to see it at the Dolby Cinema but that never fell through.
^y'mean "that fell through".
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:38 AM   #2474
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^Reminds me of Akira. (unsurprisingly of course.) Particularly that image/poster of Kaneda and his bike.
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Old 01-19-2018, 07:42 AM   #2476
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^ Wasted opportunity not using any of the posters by Ash Thorp and Maciej Kuciara for the steelbooks.

Here's the rest of the set:
http://www.ashthorp.com/blade-runner-2049-posters
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:20 AM   #2477
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Dude, it's HDR: virtually everything about it is display dependent.

The thing about 10-bit HDR and banding specifically is that it doesn't take much of an error in rounding up the levels to cause severe posterisation (this is why Dolby Vision originates at 12-bit because this is above the Barten threshold for banding whereas 10-bit is below), and displays are just as prone to this as the encoding process is. If the processing is choking on the bit depth then it will cause the kind of extreme banding that some folks are reporting.
Geoff, I've inquired about this issue before. First, are the voltage controllers that increase/decrease the brightness on the LCD/OLED panels following the PQ curve? Or is the PQ curve applied to the video signal, then the video signal sent to these current controllers in a normal gamma or linear fashion as in regular "SDR" monitors.
Meaning the PQ curve, which is more like thisinverted s curve.jpg, is being represented on the panel itself by a normal 8-10 bit panel's discrete steps as always. If so, then you might ultimately need 11 bits on the tone steps on the panel itself to represent fully the 10bit PQ shaped steps (and 13bits to represent 12bit PQ) to not lose PQ in-between steps. PQ "curve" is an more efficient way to code steps but in "decompressing" (displaying) the curve the panel must be able to display this variable steps coded.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:36 AM   #2478
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I think I知 sold on blind buying this. Now of course is the obligatory second decision which is going with 4K or the 3D version. Hmmm. I realize that I値l get a diffent answer depending on which forum I知 in.

Pisses me off that they don稚 do combos anymore with both versions. A film like this is a great candidate for having both versions. Ugh!
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:49 AM   #2479
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I think I知 sold on blind buying this. Now of course is the obligatory second decision which is going with 4K or the 3D version. Hmmm. I realize that I値l get a diffent answer depending on which forum I知 in.

Pisses me off that they don稚 do combos anymore with both versions. A film like this is a great candidate for having both versions. Ugh!
I am getting the combo from Amazon France. It would be a crime to watch this only in one format!
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:51 AM   #2480
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You guys should respect other visions.
The films many love are not necessarily the love of everyone; that is fact, and respect is part of that fact.
It hurts no one to like or not a film, we all have various taste in life...be it music, films, wines, women, cars, all that jazz.

We share freely and with respect of our impressions.
The problem arises when those who love the movie dont even want those who dont love the movie to post how they felt about it
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