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Old 01-24-2012, 06:04 AM   #21
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Nice artwork, hope it's not too thick, hope it's bit like TOS release.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:25 AM   #22
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I enjoyed season 1 of TNG, and watched all the original broadcasts. From there I watched the later seasons only sporatically, and therefore will buy season 1 only for now. I never found Star Trek TNG matched up to the TOS, of which I own all on Blu-ray.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:43 AM   #23
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Considering the work going into these restorations, it will MSRP at $95 - $100 with retailers actually listing it at $80. And it will stay high for a long time.

Sorry to burst everyone's hopes, but it is a lot of work going into this and Paramount is far too communistic when it comes to their Star Trek franchise... especially this, the most popular of series under the franchise name.
"Communistic" ?

I believe the term you are looking for is "capitalistic."
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:37 AM   #24
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"Communistic" ?

I believe the term you are looking for is "capitalistic."
Nope. I mean they take complete control of the situation and don't allow for anyone to be able to gain anything from the sale of their product except themselves. Retailers won't see any means of creating wiggle room on the price unless they wish to lose money on each sale.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:02 PM   #25
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Considering the work going into these restorations, it will MSRP at $95 - $100 with retailers actually listing it at $80. And it will stay high for a long time.

Sorry to burst everyone's hopes, but it is a lot of work going into this and Paramount is far too communistic when it comes to their Star Trek franchise... especially this, the most popular of series under the franchise name.
If that's the case, I may wait for Barnes & Noble's "buy 2, get 3rd free" sale, that they do every January and June. I've been able to save a little money that way in the past.
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:45 PM   #26
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I'm skipping the sampler and waiting on season 1, but I am not spending more than $45 for it.
I will also wait for season 1. And will wait for a Gold Box deal around the 40 dollar range. It may be awhile.....but I am patient.

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Old 01-24-2012, 08:17 PM   #27
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Considering the work going into these restorations, it will MSRP at $95 - $100 with retailers actually listing it at $80. And it will stay high for a long time.

Sorry to burst everyone's hopes, but it is a lot of work going into this and Paramount is far too communistic when it comes to their Star Trek franchise... especially this, the most popular of series under the franchise name.
I have to agree. Paramount is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on restoration for these releases and they are considered the 'crown jewel' for catalogy television releases. I would be shocked if these have an MSRP below $99.99. I'm expecting $129.99 - like the original series when it initially came out on blu.
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:23 PM   #28
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I have to agree. Paramount is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on restoration for these releases and they are considered the 'crown jewel' for catalogy television releases. I would be shocked if these have an MSRP below $99.99. I'm expecting $129.99 - like the original series when it initially came out on blu.
Not entirely correct. Like many business models you can also achieve higher profits by selling on volume.

a 129.99 price tag would negate all but the complete fan from a Day One purchase since that is really a lot of money for a single season.

You make is around 60.00 and you will not only attract the already sold fan base but every other casual viewer into consideration of purchase.

The 129.99 price will only make the units sit on the shelves longer (I would!), because we all know the price will drop a lot later on.

Heck the smartest guy will be the one who will wait until all 7 seasons are released and wait for the inevitable complete boxset at a huge discount (think Battlestar Galactica).

If the Ratio of Complete Fan vs Casual Viewer is 1:50, then if 100 units are sold only @ 129.99 = 12,999.00, Where Complete Fans equal (1 x 100 x 129.99) and 0 Casual Viewer purchases due to the high price tag.

Comparably, @ 59.99 which would attract the Casual Viewer + Complete Fan who purchase 100 each (now 200 units total) (1 x 100 x 59.99) = 5,999.00 + [(50x100x59.99)] = 305,949.00

Even if there were exactly 100 units available / 2, you would end up with 152,974.50

Volume will always achieve much higher gross sales.

This can be used towards any other idea. If movie tickets were not say 17.00 each but 50% that you can assume twice as many people would go to the movies and purchase 2 x the amount of confectioneries (given they stay regular price). Never understood why gouge to make less....

I did that quick, correct the math if your that bored lol

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Old 01-24-2012, 08:33 PM   #29
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I have to agree. Paramount is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on restoration for these releases and they are considered the 'crown jewel' for catalogy television releases. I would be shocked if these have an MSRP below $99.99. I'm expecting $129.99 - like the original series when it initially came out on blu.
I agree completely... why would they have TOS @ 130 and TNG for less... im guessing with the amount of money they are spending and how popular TNG is this maybe more
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:34 PM   #30
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Not entirely correct. Like many business models you can also achieve higher profits by selling on volume.

a 129.99 price tag would negate all but the complete fan from a Day One purchase since that is really a lot of money for a single season.

You make is around 60.00 and you will not only attract the already sold fan base but every other casual viewer into consideration of purchase.

The 129.99 price will only make the units sit on the shelves longer (I would!), because we all know the price will drop a lot later on.

Heck the smartest guy will be the one who will wait until all 7 seasons are released and wait for the inevitable complete boxset at a huge discount (think Battlestar Galactica).

If the Ratio of Complete Fan vs Casual Viewer is 1:50, then if 100 units are sold @ 129.99 = 12,999.00, Where Complete Fans equal (1 x 100 x 129.99) and no Casual Viewer purchases due to the high price tag.

Comparably, @ 59.99 which would attract the Casual Viewer + Complete Fan (1 x 100 x 59.99) = 5,999.00 + [(50x100x59.99)] = 305,949.00

I did that quick, correct the math if your that bored lol
this would be right but not in Paramounts eyes... for Star Trek they set the price high cause they know they can get it
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:50 PM   #31
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The word for that would be, Greed.
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I believe the term you are looking for is "capitalistic."
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Nope. I mean they take complete control of the situation and don't allow for anyone to be able to gain anything from the sale of their product except themselves.
That's called capitalism.

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Old 01-24-2012, 09:38 PM   #33
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I'm skipping the sampler and waiting on season 1, but I am not spending more than $45 for it.
Start digging-in now then. lol
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:52 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by Caesu View Post
Not entirely correct. Like many business models you can also achieve higher profits by selling on volume.

a 129.99 price tag would negate all but the complete fan from a Day One purchase since that is really a lot of money for a single season.

You make is around 60.00 and you will not only attract the already sold fan base but every other casual viewer into consideration of purchase.

The 129.99 price will only make the units sit on the shelves longer (I would!), because we all know the price will drop a lot later on.

Heck the smartest guy will be the one who will wait until all 7 seasons are released and wait for the inevitable complete boxset at a huge discount (think Battlestar Galactica).

If the Ratio of Complete Fan vs Casual Viewer is 1:50, then if 100 units are sold only @ 129.99 = 12,999.00, Where Complete Fans equal (1 x 100 x 129.99) and 0 Casual Viewer purchases due to the high price tag.

Comparably, @ 59.99 which would attract the Casual Viewer + Complete Fan who purchase 100 each (now 200 units total) (1 x 100 x 59.99) = 5,999.00 + [(50x100x59.99)] = 305,949.00

Even if there were exactly 100 units available / 2, you would end up with 152,974.50

Volume will always achieve much higher gross sales.

This can be used towards any other idea. If movie tickets were not say 17.00 each but 50% that you can assume twice as many people would go to the movies and purchase 2 x the amount of confectioneries (given they stay regular price). Never understood why gouge to make less....

I did that quick, correct the math if your that bored lol
Ok it would actually be 150$60 which would come out to $90,000.

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Well, if Paramount wants my money, they'll either set the Blu-Rays at a more reasonable price, or they'll have to wait a few years. I really hope they choose the former, because the new screenshots and clips have been awesome.
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Start digging-in now then. lol
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Thanks!

I like that they finally fixed the phaser, having it come out of the strip instead of the windows that are just forward of the Calypso.

I can only assume that the original animators used TOS as a reference as to where a phaser was supposed to emit from, not knowing that the new bands on the D's hull were the new phasers.
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Well, if Paramount wants my money, they'll either set the Blu-Rays at a more reasonable price, or they'll have to wait a few years. I really hope they choose the former, because the new screenshots and clips have been awesome.
If Paramount follow the same mind set (and by what as been going on with the original series on Blu-ray, look's like they are) it's going to be more then a faew years. All DVD sets of the Star Trek series did not start dropping until 2007-08 as Blu-ray started to come in and even then they sure did not reach $40
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If Paramount follow the same mind set (and by what as been going on with the original series on Blu-ray, look's like they are) it's going to be more then a faew years. All DVD sets of the Star Trek series did not start dropping until 2007-08 as Blu-ray started to come in and even then they sure did not reach $40
With the exception of Seasons 3 & 5 (which were about $60), I got all the DVDs for around $45 a pop, in 2007.
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Thanks!

I like that they finally fixed the phaser, having it come out of the strip instead of the windows that are just forward of the Calypso.

I can only assume that the original animators used TOS as a reference as to where a phaser was supposed to emit from, not knowing that the new bands on the D's hull were the new phasers.
could be!, I do recall an interview with Rick Burman, suggesting that he wrote various scenes into episodes that would require a visual effect. he said at the time he had no Idea which goes where and remembers copping a spray or two from fans pointing out that "Torpedo Launchers" are not used for "Tractor Beams" .
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