Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I thought you were predicting that 1080p content was endangered by 4k displays. I actually agree that 4k displays will eventually replace 1080p displays as TV manufacturers reduce, and eventually cease, their production with the possible exception of smaller screen displays.

No, content is a different animal. The market share may go down. But as long as the "old' stuff works or somebody makes a newer version of it (turntables) there will always be a demand for the media to play on devices. Once one stops, it will kill the other. 8-tracks & cassettes proved that.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by tjritter79

No, content is a different animal. The market share may go down. But as long as the "old' stuff works or somebody makes a newer version of it (turntables) there will always be a demand for the media to play on devices. Once one stops, it will kill the other. 8-tracks & cassettes proved that.

To be fair, I also thought that’s what you meant.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by tjritter79

No, content is a different animal. The market share may go down. But as long as the "old' stuff works or somebody makes a newer version of it (turntables) there will always be a demand for the media to play on devices. Once one stops, it will kill the other. 8-tracks & cassettes proved that.

Cassette decks are still being made and sold. Pre-recorded cassette tapes are also still being made and sold. I'm not saying they are big sellers, but they are big enough to still be manufactured.

8 tracks were an abomination and hell isn't hot enough for them.

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Cassette decks are still being made and sold. Pre-recorded cassette tapes are also still being made and sold. I'm not saying they are big sellers, but they are big enough to still be manufactured.

8 tracks were an abomination and hell isn't hot enough for them.

Now in my day, 8-tracks were the s#!t. That was the way to play your music in the car, somehow they were better than cassettes (?) because you didn't have to reverse sides (the self-rev car cass players didn't come out till a few yrs later).....but you know what it was that, to me made the 8-tracks die.....when "Rain" by the Beatles was interrupted on the Hey Jude 8-track changing channels.

Which cause Steel is in England I should explain. Capitol records distributed the Beatles albums in USA. Capitol liked 5-sided records and NO EP's, so most of the Beatles catalog of songs in the states were released in different order....its why Capitol had more Beatle albums than what they released in England. Anyway, the Hey Jude album had "Rain" "I Shudda Known Better" "Can't Buy me Love" & "Paperback Writer" ...songs released in England yrs before, along with "Old Brown Shoe", Ballad of John/Yoko" "Hey Jude" "Revolution" & "Dont Let Me Down". These were either singles not on an album, or B-sides, or the earlier songs were only on the soundtrack of "A Hard Days Night" which was a United Artists release.

American record companies were, and still are f'd up!

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by Groot

I take it that a few of you guys don’t read comments of people being mocked for shooting video vertically?

Link Wray was chastised for writing "Rumble" in the 50's. Shunned by almost all radio stations. Today, he's considered a pioneer of heavy metal & punk.

My point is ANY art form, not accepted by the masses initially, will somehow, someway, find an audience. It may be small, or become immense....but there will be an audience.

[tjritter79]

I really liked cassettes. I had a ton of em, the problem is their sound also degrades over time.....and if you keep it near a magnetic field.....whoops!
Dolby B & C NR, I remember I had a Nakamichi (sp) tape deck that was awesome. Lasted me 20 yrs. When that died I swore off tapes forever. A lot of my pre-recs I had to repair cause I would always loan to my fr......borrow the.......I lost a shitload of tapes!

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by octagon

TV was going to kill movies. Cable was going to kill movies. Videocassettes were going to kill movies. MTV was going to create a generation of ADD cases that wouldn't sit still for a whole movie and that was going to kill movies. Then it was a reliance on blockbusters and CGI and the internet.

Does any of this sound familiar?

Oh yeah!
If anything, TV imitated Hollywood, not the other way around. The movies had 3-D...and killed it......before TV ever did.
Same with stereo sound. Fantasound. For Fantasia. I guess that's before your time. TV didn't have that till 1980.
But TV DID kill one market.....the adult movie.
For every 3 family-oriented large screen theater, there was the seedy, former stage-show-now-XXX-showcase-moviehouse.
Last time I went to an Orioles game in Baltimore, there was still one near the stadium...maybe its gone? But from Pa. to Maryland, that was the last one left.
Saving Ryan's Privates has become a strictly in-home experience.
see, society CAN evolve!

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by tjritter79

I really liked cassettes. I had a ton of em, the problem is their sound also degrades over time.....and if you keep it near a magnetic field.....whoops!
Dolby B & C NR, I remember I had a Nakamichi (sp) tape deck that was awesome. Lasted me 20 yrs. When that died I swore off tapes forever. A lot of my pre-recs I had to repair cause I would always loan to my fr......borrow the.......I lost a shitload of tapes!

Yes I love Cassettes too, I still have a small case of them I made my own mix. I would buy LP's and record the Tracks first thing when I first opened the LP. I would make Dance Music for my Christmas Parties, and Cassettes for the House Boat trips every year around 4th of July weekend. That was at Shasta Lake, CA, did it for 10 years in the 80's. My Brother had a Low Profile Jet Ski Boat that we towed behind the House Boat....Good Times!

[quirkmanly]

Mod Note: I've moved the vertical video discussion to this thread in the Movies section of the forum, lest it derails this thread from the actual topic at hand.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by quirkmanly

Mod Note: I've moved the vertical video discussion to this thread in the Movies section of the forum, lest it derails this thread from the actual topic at hand.

Why? The vertical video discussion is relevant to this thread. We are talking about a potential home video format of the future.

Would you please consider restoring it?

[quirkmanly]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Why? The vertical video discussion is relevant to this thread. We are talking about a potential home video format of the future.

Would you please consider restoring it?

It has no relevance to Physical vs Digital, so no. Post in the new thread if wish to continue down that path.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by quirkmanly

It has no relevance to Physical vs Digital, so no. Post in the new thread if wish to continue down that path.

How does a discussion about a potential future home video format not qualify in a thread including the words “And The Future Of Home Video”.? it’s a discussion about a format that’s very prominent with the digital side of things at the moment.

In my opinion, you have made a mistake. This is relevant.

[quirkmanly]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

How does a discussion about a potential future home video format not qualify in a thread including the words “And The Future Of Home Video”.? it’s a discussion about a format that’s very prominent with the digital side of things at the moment.

In my opinion, you have made a mistake. This is relevant.

It's not a home video format, it's an aspect ratio discussion.

[Vilya]

I bought two movies today at my local Best Buy: Marrowbone 4K UHD and Upgrade on blu-ray.

At my local store, they still had three full length double-sided rows of movies on all disc formats in addition to a large four-sided new release display at the store's entrance. There was also a special display for the latest Avenger movie, two other stand alone displays with recently released popular titles, and two dump bins with deeply discounted titles: one for blus and one for DVDs.

At my store, located in a small city with a population of just 26,000, it is business as usual in the movie department.

If anyone needs to call to verify, just ask. Too soon?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by quirkmanly

It's not a home video format, it's an aspect ratio discussion.

Vertical video would be/is a new format. It would usher in new content and new ways to deliver content. Especially in relation to mobile devices.

[Vilya]

I don't mind it being moved; it could be moved to a thread far, far, away and I'd be fine with it.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I don't mind it being moved; it could be moved to a thread far, far, away and I'd be fine with it.

Well, half the thread needs to be stripped away in that case.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well, half the thread needs to be stripped away in that case.

Your posts on this topic were just moved; they were not deleted nor were they banished to Siberia.

It is possible that your topic will now be discussed by a wider audience, or, at the very least by different members than those that frequent this thread. How that audience responds to your predictions is an entirely different matter; brace yourself because the early polling does not look favorable. You have an opportunity to share your ideas with more people in any case.

It does appear that the title for this new thread was chosen for you; if you prefer something different, I bet the moderator would consider your preference as a courtesy.

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by quirkmanly

Mod Note: I've moved the vertical video discussion to this thread in the Movies section of the forum, lest it derails this thread from the actual topic at hand.

I'm getting just a bit tired of you not only editing posts, which remove the consistency of context that we ARE having a conversation about...then arbitrarily moving them to another thread.

You did this earlier when we had a convo on the Castle Rock thread, because YOU thought we were discussing physical vs. streaming quality, when we in fact were NOT.

The discussion was rather IF & WHEN the show would get a Blu ray release and until then was LIMITED to viewing only via HULU.

In my professional opinion, you are either involving your bias in issues which do not involve or concern you...or wish that those who participate cannot stray to a meaningful topic which involves the thread we are discussing.

If this is going to continue I insist that you remove my name from the blu-ray.com roles and close out any portals in which my inquiries lead to these forum discussions.

Thank you, good day & good bye!

[stonesfan129]

Does anyone notice that a lot of Blu-ray discs no longer include a DVD? Why did they stop doing this? I liked buying the BD/DVD/Digital HD combo packs because then my parents would pitch in some $$$ to take the DVD and I would keep the Blu-ray and Digital HD code.