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Old 05-13-2021, 04:39 PM   #2021
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I do not agree with you often, but I do on this subject.

I got burnt out on this genre and that has left me with a big backlog of these movies to get through.

Bruce is right; many of these movies are like watching a glossy over stylized cartoon and most have a bad case of infectious sequelitis.
There is a huge part of the US population that grew up on DC or Marvel comics. The means the multi-sequel story arc is present on a lot of them. Just like that cult 15 year Supernatural series.

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Also Lucas Star Wars is part of the same superhero genre, like it or not, and they have leagues of comic books concerning their stories.

Another example is all the many WB DC Universe Animated Original Movies. From wiki

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Since it first began with 2007's Superman: Doomsday, the series was well received being praised by fans, critics, and had consistently good sales.
Because WB was't that well off of they made most of their DC superhero movies as animations instead of live action, but there is still about 41 released, and you thought Marvel or Star Wars was too many.
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Old 05-13-2021, 04:53 PM   #2022
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I wish they would return to the live action movies of the 90's, or at least have more of that style (my favorite decade for action movies). At least there was some semblance of realism. Superhero movies are great, to a point, but it's still like watching a cartoon, and after a while it becomes boring to me.
Do you really miss all those many lower budget films based on multiple action based stars? Some of them were pretty cheesy, like Demolition man. I guess the Expendables series was their Hail Mary salute to this genre. I think what is hot now is the manga live action conversions. Example Alita: Battle Angel

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I do not agree with you often, but I do on this subject.

I got burnt out on this genre and that has left me with a big backlog of these movies to get through.

Bruce is right; many of these movies are like watching a glossy over stylized cartoon and most have a bad case of infectious sequelitis.
The last "Superhero" movie I really liked was the movie Mortal. Different approach to the genre as it was far from a stylized cartoon, but still was rooted in mythology. Shot in Norway with beautiful scenery and has a killer 5.1 track.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Mortal-Blu-ray/276394/
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Old 05-13-2021, 09:17 PM   #2024
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Sorry Wendell, as much as you think you accomplished the task - you failed to show I post negative comments on PM. You can always try again but I seriously doubt you will succeed. You general comments in this post just prove it.
Sometime soon I will ask the administrator at AVS if I can have access to archived post. If granted, I will post some of your rails against Blu-ray as a format. Would that work for you?
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Old 05-13-2021, 10:59 PM   #2025
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Sometime soon I will ask the administrator at AVS if I can have access to archived post. If granted, I will post some of your rails against Blu-ray as a format. Would that work for you?
You do realize that I was a HD DVD supporter in the format war, so go ahead and knock yourself out. I haven't made a post at AVS in over 10 years. You think they archive posts that old?
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You do realize that I was a HD DVD supporter in the format war, so go ahead and knock yourself out. I haven't made a post at AVS in over 10 years. You think they archive posts that old?
Yes they do, as I was looking at some 2008 thru 2010 posts. No joke either.
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The last "Superhero" movie I really liked was the movie Mortal. Different approach to the genre as it was far from a stylized cartoon, but still was rooted in mythology. Shot in Norway with beautiful scenery and has a killer 5.1 track.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Mortal-Blu-ray/276394/
I am intrigued. Thank you for the recommendation.
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Old 05-13-2021, 11:49 PM   #2028
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How someone felt about something a decade ago interests me far less than how they feel about it now.
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Lee and I go back 15 years to the format war days. I was an HD DVD supporter too. Hard to believe it's been 13 years since the format war ended.

Anyway in one of the (now closed) forums, I had a sales thread, which I abandoned. But Lee kept it up till the very end. So I appreciate him doing here what he did for several years over there.

I'll be posting quarterly updates on Blu-ray/UHD progress (generally as the DEG reports come out) though. Also will keep updating the sales table and posting other stuff when I feel the urge. I don't consider myself solely responsible anymore for updating this thread and glad Lee can help.
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I was an HD DVD supporter too.
Same for Kosty, Vilya and many others. The common thread was the desire to truly own your content and have the best possible presentation so the migration to Blu-ray.

Then came UHD displays and some UHD content so we climbed aboard and IIRC, you got your Sony FMP-X10 a little before I did. Could not stomach Samsung players but I was on the first wave of Oppo UHD players.
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I was an HD DVD supporter too.
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Same for Kosty, Vilya and many others. The common thread was the desire to truly own your content and have the best possible presentation so the migration to Blu-ray.
I still have five HD DVD titles in my collection although there is no longer any need for me to keep them. They're more like souvenirs now. The red cases are purty.
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Same for Kosty, Vilya and many others. The common thread was the desire to truly own your content and have the best possible presentation so the migration to Blu-ray.

Then came UHD displays and some UHD content so we climbed aboard and IIRC, you got your Sony FMP-X10 a little before I did. Could not stomach Samsung players but I was on the first wave of Oppo UHD players.
That FMP-X10 sure turned out to be a brick. I bought 4 or 5 of their downloads for about $30 each and can't access any of them. Never thought they would steal back our purchases like that. But I guess that's one reason why we're fans of physical content.

I got the Samsung day one and didn't have much to complain about it really. It did the job. I got the Oppo player later, a few months after they came out. I have the 203 hooked up, but still have a sealed 205 tucked away.
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I still have five HD DVD titles in my collection although there is no longer any need for me to keep them. They're more like souvenirs now. The red cases are purty.
I'm somewhat the same way about my D-VHS D-Theater player and 5 tapes. The D-Theater trailer at the beginning of each tape is a really cool visual with neat sound effect.

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I still have five HD DVD titles in my collection although there is no longer any need for me to keep them. They're more like souvenirs now. The red cases are purty.
I still have all my HD DVDs. I treat it like an actual collection, it's pretty much complete. It has lots of nostalgic value to me as I was pretty involved in the format war from the get go. Crazy times back then, lol.
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That FMP-X10 sure turned out to be a brick. I bought 4 or 5 of their downloads for about $30 each and can't access any of them. Never thought they would steal back our purchases like that. But I guess that's one reason why we're fans of physical content.
Sold mine while they still had some value but still lost well over $300 on it.

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I got the Samsung day one and didn't have much to complain about it really. It did the job.
None of their players had discrete power on and off codes which made remote automation a PITA. There was/is a kludge workaround.

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I got the Oppo player later, a few months after they came out. I have the 203 hooked up, but still have a sealed 205 tucked away.
Oh wow, I assume you know what it is worth on the market now. I started to buy two 203's, wish I had.
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[Show spoiler]That FMP-X10 sure turned out to be a brick. I bought 4 or 5 of their downloads for about $30 each and can't access any of them. Never thought they would steal back our purchases like that. But I guess that's one reason why we're fans of physical content.

I got the Samsung day one and didn't have much to complain about it really. It did the job. I got the Oppo player later, a few months after they came out.
I have the 203 hooked up, but still have a sealed 205 tucked away.
If you are not planning to sell that 205 for a humongous profit, then you should be using it. Something that nice should be enjoyed, IMO.
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If you are not planning to sell that 205 for a humongous profit, then you should be using it. Something that nice should be enjoyed, IMO.
I'm undecided but leaning towards keeping it, although the resale value is tempting. I still have several unopened HD DVD players in the closet so it's familiar ground for me
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I'm undecided but leaning towards keeping it, although the resale value is tempting. I still have several unopened HD DVD players in the closet so it's familiar ground for me
Well, try not to become the guy with the beautiful rare car who is too afraid to drive it and who instead just dusts it everyday with a diaper.
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I was pulling for HD DVD. I still think the dual sided disc would have been the best option for mainstream consumption, but who knows...
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