PlayStation Classic gets mediocre first impressions

[x7q3]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/th.../1100-6463110/

https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/11...nds-on-preview

What are your thoughts? Most of the criticism seems to be about the selection of games. It's missing too many classic titles, like Tomb Raider, Silent Hill, Resident Evil 2, etc.

Are you going to buy PlayStation Classic?

[Onyxchief1]

I definitely wanted more classic games included.
I will still buy it but not on release day. I'm already buying a Nintendo Switch for Super Smash Bros so I'll get the PS Classic a little later. I'm a big Play Station fan. I still have a ps2 slim, a PS3 and a PS4.

[Consulli]

20 games is pretty bare for the huge PS1 library. With backwards emulation on the PS2 and earlier PS3 models and digital purchases/emulators allowing you to play PS1 games I don't see the point of getting it. Maybe if it had 30-50 games on it.

[Adam_ME]

I cancelled my preorder. I have the original fat PS3 which plays PS1 games, plus some are available for online purchase on the PSN Store.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by Adam_ME

I cancelled my preorder.

Same. Maybe I'l order it when it drops in price, but I don't wanna splash £90 on it when the line-up is disappointing. Besides, the games on it which are genuine classics - Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, Rayman, etc - I already own.

[professorwho]

And it uses the PAL versions of Tekken 3 and Resident Evil.

F**king idiots. And it still displays at 60hz, which is bad. If you want a better explanation, here's what John Linneman (from Digital Foundry) had to say:

Here's the thing you're missing - the PS Classic will output at 60hz over HDMI. Which means there is now a mismatch between 50 and 60hz leading to ridiculous judder. PAL games on a 50hz display may run slow but they look suitably smooth - not so when the refresh rate is wrong.

Source

[D00mM4r1n3]

It's even worse than what everyone originally thought. Sony put 50Hz PAL versions of some games on the device rather than the 60Hz US release. 2 of which are fighting games where the lower framerate was immediately noticeable to people that have gotten there hands on the system.

Personally, I canceled my pre-order as I felt $100 was too much when Nintendo was only charging $59/$79 for their systems. Now that all of the information about these is known, there is no way I would ever consider buying one of these unless it was in some bargain bin and I had a few bucks to waste.

Here's the list of PAL games on the US version:

• Battle Arena Toshinden
• Cool Boarders 2
• Destruction Derby
• Grand Theft Auto
• Jumping Flash!
• Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
• Resident Evil Director’s Cut
• Tekken 3
• Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six

Source: http://www.siliconera.com/2018/11/27...QZa6P4wVUVP.99

[Donl1282]

I hope it sells enough units for Sony to release a PlayStation 2 Classic. Even though the reviews of it are mediocre I still want to get it, it will look good next to my NES and Super NES Classic Edition units.

[tigertron]

I too cancelled my pre-order. The games list just didn't look that great and my Vita makes a better PS1.

[BladeRunner2007]

Tekken 3 in PAL...... FAIL!!!

[AeroK]

Cancelled my preorder as well. Just have too many things coming out this month plus shopping for family. I might get it if/when it goes to clearance.

[BLMN]

I’m keeping it. I don’t care about the original line up as long as it can be hacked.

[Petey Parker]

I canceled my pre-order because of other gaming expenses but now I'm really glad I did. I might pick it up at a later date if it can be hacked though.

[Wingman1977]

I have it reservedd at GS, but I'm cancelling it.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Wingman1977

I have it reservedd at GS, but I'm cancelling it.

Mine will be picked up tomorrow, expect to play it and my NES and SNES Mini a lot during the 40 day school break that begins Saturday.

[MagellanvsHimself]

I wish the reviews (and perhaps the sales for this thing) would send SONY a message (it won't). It'd be nice if they took a look at how well the classics titles are working on the XBOX One - I was very late to hop on the XBOX bandwagon this generation, but I am totally impressed by how the backwards compatibility of both 360 and original Xbox titles play on the console, sometimes even surpassing how they originally played. Meanwhile, SONY releases this monstrosity as a way to celebrate the console's history - it feels like a slap in the face to those of us that owned (and still own) an original Playstation.

[Samus Aran]

The PlayStation Classic feels a a lot like when the PlayStation Move originally came out. Sony is being reactive to Nintendo's success instead of being proactive. And the Classic was just lazily thrown together.

[JEDGAR1000]

HOW TO ACCESS THE PS1 CLASSIC EMULATOR SETTINGS - YouTube

The YouTubers at the Retro Gaming Arts channel seem to have been among the first to notice that plugging certain USB keyboards into the hardware and hitting the escape key brings up a "PCSX menu" with an array of emulation options. Among them: additional RAM-based save states for each game; simulated CRT-style scanlines; modifiable "frameskip" settings; a frames-per-second display; and even the ability to change the emulation "region" to force 50fps PAL games to run at the 60fps NTSC standard.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/...ation-classic/

While the video initially suggested any USB keyboard would be able to activate this hidden menu, further testing from viewers seems to suggest only certain high-end Corsair and Logitech keyboards (including the Corsair K70 and K95) can activate the menu. This limitation is possibly due to holes in the USB blacklisting in the hardware itself. Testing here at Ars' Orbital HQ found the Sleep button on an old Velocity Micro keyboard could turn the console off, but no other button on a couple of tested keyboards had any effect. Digital Foundry's John Linneman says he tested more than a dozen keyboards at a local shop with no luck.

[Samus Aran]

What's your impression, Batman1980?

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Samus Aran

What's your impression, Batman1980?

None yet, going to fire it up tomorrow after I get back from working out and the gym. The lack of an AC block is annoying but at least I have an extra block, hope it works with this system. FF VII is the main reason I got it, we'll see if I really spend much time playing anything else. Decided to try it out tonight, using the HDMi slot my PS3 usually uses so it's not mixed up over there with my NES/SNES classics. I now have 5 devices that use HDMi cables so I definitely need to look into a splitter. Looks good so far, definitely need to venture into other games at some point.