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Old 02-26-2011, 02:29 AM   #41
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Congrats, Elway! I am jealous!

Let us know how you like it when you fire it up!!
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Old 02-26-2011, 02:30 AM   #42
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Will do!

I think 73" at 10 feet is gonna be nice!! New stand is only 18" tall, so we should be viewing that big boy int he sweet spot.
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Old 02-26-2011, 02:34 AM   #43
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Will do!

I think 73" at 10 feet is gonna be nice!! New stand is only 18" tall, so we should be viewing that big boy int he sweet spot.
WOW -- 73 inches at 10 feet?? I'm running a 50 at 12 feet...



Now, I'm really envious...
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Old 02-26-2011, 02:43 AM   #44
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Yeah, I measured it off against the 58" I have now, gonna be pretty wild, but Im hoping it's real immersive for blu-rays, especially 3D. I gotta think it's gonna be.

Here is a 58" vs 73" haha

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Old 02-26-2011, 03:45 AM   #45
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It will be more than immersive -- I wish I was in your situation.
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Old 02-26-2011, 03:48 AM   #46
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I read a good review of the 738/838 series, and the reviewer was 8 feet from the 73". He made a few comments about movies with motion making you feel like you were there.

I hope I can get some of that effect, which is what I was going for. I was a PQ hound for a long time, but I think the screen size plays a huge roll too, and Im in it more for the experience now.

DLP is far from perfect, but it'll be fun.
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Old 02-26-2011, 04:42 AM   #47
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Personally, I think both of those distances -- ESPECIALLY the one you mentioned in your last post -- would be way too close for me; I mean, just 8 or so feet from a screen that size? I would go blind...
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Old 02-26-2011, 03:04 PM   #48
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It's going to the theater experience. Think how the screen fills your field of vision.
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Old 02-28-2011, 02:29 AM   #49
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I've been considering it, but after view Magnolia/Bestuy I was less impressed than a plasma/led. Don't get me wrong it looked good, but there was a less of a sharpness about it. It has too much of "dull" look to it. I dunno though.
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It's going to the theater experience. Think how the screen fills your field of vision.
I understand that -- I do. I just think those dimensions would be a bit TOO close for my eyes.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:21 AM   #51
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Well, Amazon goofed and sent a 73" 738. Being that no options on the 838 make it a necessity, I called em up and got $310 off and kept it. Stand comes tomorrow!
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I've been considering it, but after view Magnolia/Bestuy I was less impressed than a plasma/led. Don't get me wrong it looked good, but there was a less of a sharpness about it. It has too much of "dull" look to it. I dunno though.
This is an interesting counterpoint, link; some have claimed these gigantic screens at this size have that kind of "dull" look presumably because of their sheer size -- and that would concern me if I were ever able to afford one and had the space for it.

It is possible the store had it on some kind of "film" mode that "softened" the appearance though; normally, they run these in Vivid modes or the brightest it can go...

Does anyone else know if these super-big screens aren't that vivid or punchy?
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:29 AM   #53
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Well, few things:

1) In store viewings, especially at Best Buy should be taken with a grain of salt

2) The DLP's are more soft than say an LCD, like a plasma is. Some people like the more natural look, some do not

3) As you blow up images they will look worse, unless it's Blu-ray. As Ive increased from 50", broadcast tv continues to get less sharp because compression is exposed with the larger screen. I have no doubt Directv is going to look worse on the 73" than the 58".

I used to obsess over PQ, but I recently decided the size and more immersive feel is what Im going for, and am gonna quit being so anal
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Well, few things:

1) In store viewings, especially at Best Buy should be taken with a grain of salt

2) The DLP's are more soft than say an LCD, like a plasma is. Some people like the more natural look, some do not

3) As you blow up images they will look worse, unless it's Blu-ray. As Ive increased from 50", broadcast tv continues to get less sharp because compression is exposed with the larger screen. I have no doubt Directv is going to look worse on the 73" than the 58".

I used to obsess over PQ, but I recently decided the size and more immersive feel is what Im going for, and am gonna quit being so anal
The bigger size gives a theater look and I like that but I think the resolution needs to be MUCH higher. Ultra HD is needed.

Of course I heard the 3D looks SAH=WEET on the DLP screens.
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Well, few things:

1) In store viewings, especially at Best Buy should be taken with a grain of salt
Sure -- but in this case, he was describing a dull, soft effect, and normally, the sets in these stores are set up in Vivid/Dynamic...

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2) The DLP's are more soft than say an LCD, like a plasma is. Some people like the more natural look, some do not
Indeed -- that is true; heck, my SXRD rear pro can be considered "soft" and "filmlike" compared to LCD and plasma, but something about his statements of what he observed struck me as an image problem with this set...of course, I am totally not trying to make you feel bad about your purchase; I was just concerned incase I ever get the cash or space to be able to buy a set like you did...

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3) As you blow up images they will look worse, unless it's Blu-ray. As Ive increased from 50", broadcast tv continues to get less sharp because compression is exposed with the larger screen. I have no doubt Directv is going to look worse on the 73" than the 58".
True...which begs the question...what kind of material was he watching when he made those observations?

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Perhaps very wisely...
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Old 03-01-2011, 03:23 AM   #56
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The bigger size gives a theater look and I like that but I think the resolution needs to be MUCH higher. Ultra HD is needed.

Of course I heard the 3D looks SAH=WEET on the DLP screens.
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Can you give us some more insight in terms of what you were viewing in the store? Was it a cable feed? A Blu-ray Disc? A DVD?
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:05 PM   #57
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Also, these sets have some bad picture modes according to the calibration charts Ive seen. All kinds of reasons this could have looked bad.

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Old 03-01-2011, 01:14 PM   #58
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I went to the Magnolia store the other day and they had just calibrated the 73" and it looked very good(to me at least). I've held off geting the 82" for long enough, the next sale I come across I will probably have to bite. Heres the comparison to what I have now.

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The room I'll be setting it up in is about 13 1/2' long, so I'll be sitting around 8-10' away.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:15 PM   #59
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Hahaha, thats a HUGE difference!

Ive seen after charts for a 738/838 calibration, the set turns out very good.
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:00 PM   #60
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I've been an owner of a Mits WD-82737 since 01-09-10 and love it.
No problems with it at all (knock on wood).

Fan is ultra quiet. Brightness and sharpness are rock solid from end to end. No hot spots or anything like that, and motion artifacts are non-existant (obviously a HUGE plus with a screen this size). Geometry is very near perfect on it, as well (I understand this can sometimes be an issue with these).
Initially I calibrated it using the Spears & Munsil Blu and was very happy with the results I got.

There is the potential for off-axis dimming, but luckily for me it's not an issue, as my seating is 12.5' from the screen.

Just a great set, and very film-like, IMO.
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