Ultra High Definition Television - Blu-ray Forum

Brightstar · 03-21-2011, 06:17 PM

Has anyone seen the picture of Ultra High Definition Television?? it blows HD tv out of the water !!

Blu-ray Fanatic · 03-21-2011, 06:21 PM

I still haven't seen it in person but have you? Thats good news though. It'll make blu-ray movies look even better!

Brightstar · 03-21-2011, 06:35 PM

no i havent but you need a very big screen like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5kYg9WUnws

tilallr1 · 03-23-2011, 06:05 PM

At the end of the day, the human eye can only perceive the difference to a degree. From what I have read and seen, you need at least a +100" screen sitting at normal viewing distances to see the difference between HD and UHD. Since that doesn't fit the majority of individuals, nor will it ever, I doubt that this technology will ever become mainstream. Eventually it will, but I give it 20+ years.

Here is the chart I reference:

But it is beautiful to see that they are still improving the technology.

rlf3911 · 03-23-2011, 06:36 PM

Display technology > our eyes. 1080p will be fine for many years to come. Why would I buy a new TV with higher resolution, just to have to sit 5 feet closer to notice any difference?

bkbluray · 03-23-2011, 06:42 PM

LOL I still don't have a big enough TV to fully appreciate the benefit of 1080p, so there's no way I'm getting this for a LONG time.

Unbelievable picture though!

victorvondoom88 · 03-25-2011, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tilallr1

At the end of the day, the human eye can only perceive the difference to a degree. From what I have read and seen, you need at least a +100" screen sitting at normal viewing distances to see the difference between HD and UHD. Since that doesn't fit the majority of individuals, nor will it ever, I doubt that this technology will ever become mainstream. Eventually it will, but I give it 20+ years.

Here is the chart I reference:

But it is beautiful to see that they are still improving the technology.

Sweet I'm all set then 12' from 120" screen

tilallr1 · 03-25-2011, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by victorvondoom88

Sweet I'm all set then 12' from 120" screen

Yes you would see the difference with a upgrade to UHD.

bageleaterkkjji · 03-25-2011, 02:00 PM

Who in the hell sits 5 feet from the tv then has 3x the space behind them ....have you ever walked into a house with the couch right infront of the tv and a big area behind it?

Blu-ray Fanatic · 03-25-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bageleaterkkjji

Who in the hell sits 5 feet from the tv then has 3x the space behind them ....have you ever walked into a house with the couch right infront of the tv and a big area behind it?

Al Bundy?

linkgx1 · 03-25-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bageleaterkkjji

who in the hell sits 5 feet from the tv then has 3x the space behind them ....have you ever walked into a house with the couch right infront of the tv and a big area behind it?

mah house.

4K2K · 03-27-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by victorvondoom88

Sweet I'm all set then 12' from 120" screen

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Originally Posted by tilallr1

Yes you would see the difference with a upgrade to UHD.

Yes, you would see a difference (if you were watching UHD content), but you probably wouldn't be able to resolve any more than 2560x1440 res. I calculate that to resolve 2560x1440 res on a 120" screen, with 20:20 vision you'd need to be a maximum of 11.77 feet away.

Super Hi-Vision / UHD is 7680x4320 res. With a 120" screen at that resolution, if you wanted to fully resolve all the pixels, I think you'd need to be no more than 3.92 feet away.

Petra_Kalbrain · 03-27-2011, 09:15 PM

Ultra HDTV will only be useful if you build an ACTUAL COMMERCIAL THEATRE inside your house. At the average 50" TV size, there would be extremely negligible difference in image quality.

Where it might come in handy is in 3D rendering on smaller "big" screens.

4K2K · 03-27-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Ultra HDTV will only be useful if you build an ACTUAL COMMERCIAL THEATRE inside your house. At the average 50" TV size, there would be extremely negligible difference in image quality.

Where it might come in handy is in 3D rendering on smaller "big" screens.

Super-HiVision/UHDTV is 7680x4320 at 60 fps (and they're saying they might want to increase it above 60 fps). I don't think any actual commercial digital theatre can do that. But yes, projectors would be better if you wanted full res (and/or if they can make them big enough & cheap - OLED or something like - FOLED).

linkgx1 · 03-29-2011, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Ultra HDTV will only be useful if you build an ACTUAL COMMERCIAL THEATRE inside your house. At the average 50" TV size, there would be extremely negligible difference in image quality.

Where it might come in handy is in 3D rendering on smaller "big" screens.

Wait, then why is it that I can see differences in quality on my computer monitor? Even @ higher resolutions.

aardvark77 · 03-29-2011, 01:32 AM

Uh, maybe because you're sitting 18" away?

linkgx1 · 03-29-2011, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by aardvark77

Uh, maybe because you're sitting 18" away?

Maybe I sit 18'' away from a 46'' plasma?

victorvondoom88 · 03-29-2011, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 4K2K

Yes, you would see a difference (if you were watching UHD content), but you probably wouldn't be able to resolve any more than 2560x1440 res. I calculate that to resolve 2560x1440 res on a 120" screen, with 20:20 vision you'd need to be a maximum of 11.77 feet away.

Super Hi-Vision / UHD is 7680x4320 res. With a 120" screen at that resolution, if you wanted to fully resolve all the pixels, I think you'd need to be no more than 3.92 feet away.

I can sit as close as 8' no problem. It's pretty intense that close and I prefer at least 10-12'. 11.77 feet is damn near 12' ~3" difference. I think I'd be okay and my vision is a hair better than 20:20 with my glasses.

4K2K · 03-29-2011, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by linkgx1

Maybe I sit 18'' away from a 46'' plasma?

At that distance you'd be able to resolve all 7680x4320 pixels of Super Hi-Vision!

linkgx1 · 03-29-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 4K2K

At that distance you'd be able to resolve all 7680x4320 pixels of Super Hi-Vision!

*puts shades on*

Sweeet!

03-21-2011, 06:17 PM	#1
Brightstar Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2011 Blu-ray collection:39 Blu-ray reviews:4	Ultra High Definition Television Has anyone seen the picture of Ultra High Definition Television?? it blows HD tv out of the water !!

03-21-2011, 06:21 PM	#2
Blu-ray Fanatic Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:San Antonio Blu-ray reviews:1	I still haven't seen it in person but have you? Thats good news though. It'll make blu-ray movies look even better! Last edited by Blu-ray Fanatic; 03-21-2011 at 06:23 PM.

03-23-2011, 06:05 PM	#4
tilallr1 Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Great White North Home Theater Gallery:410 4K collection:43 Blu-ray collection:1934 DVD collection:2333 Blu-ray reviews: 33 Trading Score:239	At the end of the day, the human eye can only perceive the difference to a degree. From what I have read and seen, you need at least a +100" screen sitting at normal viewing distances to see the difference between HD and UHD. Since that doesn't fit the majority of individuals, nor will it ever, I doubt that this technology will ever become mainstream. Eventually it will, but I give it 20+ years. Here is the chart I reference: But it is beautiful to see that they are still improving the technology. Last edited by tilallr1; 03-23-2011 at 06:10 PM.

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03-21-2011, 06:35 PM	#3
Brightstar Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2011 Blu-ray collection:39 Blu-ray reviews:4	no i havent but you need a very big screen like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5kYg9WUnws

03-23-2011, 06:36 PM	#5
rlf3911 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Mansfield, TX Blu-ray collection:251 Trading Score:6	Display technology > our eyes. 1080p will be fine for many years to come. Why would I buy a new TV with higher resolution, just to have to sit 5 feet closer to notice any difference?

03-23-2011, 06:42 PM	#6
bkbluray Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:MN Home Theater Gallery:57 Blu-ray collection:185 Blu-ray reviews:25	LOL I still don't have a big enough TV to fully appreciate the benefit of 1080p, so there's no way I'm getting this for a LONG time. Unbelievable picture though!

03-25-2011, 02:00 PM	#9
bageleaterkkjji Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Sep 2007 Location:in the garbage 4K collection:59 Blu-ray collection:322 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:4	Who in the hell sits 5 feet from the tv then has 3x the space behind them ....have you ever walked into a house with the couch right infront of the tv and a big area behind it?

03-27-2011, 09:15 PM	#13
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:547 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:17	Ultra HDTV will only be useful if you build an ACTUAL COMMERCIAL THEATRE inside your house. At the average 50" TV size, there would be extremely negligible difference in image quality. Where it might come in handy is in 3D rendering on smaller "big" screens.

03-29-2011, 01:32 AM	#16
aardvark77 Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 4K collection:72 Blu-ray collection:5204 DVD collection:181 Digital collection:1	Uh, maybe because you're sitting 18" away?

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