Friday the 13th: The Complete Collection (WB)

[SammyJankis]

Originally Posted by Rich1983

I really think we are all jumping to conclusions. I did myself until I as that Canadian release.

Jason Goes to Hell is a good movie even in its rated R form. It is still disgusting and tells an interesting story with great characters and nasty kills. How can anyone call it a piece of crap?

Because it is a piece of crap.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Donnaholic89

Well, here's what I said in the email I just sent... Lol.

Yep, that's right! I'm writing this review less than a month before the product has actually been released. A few months ago, when this was announced, I was SO excited! I'm sure just about every "Friday The 13th" fan was! I mean, ALL of the films FINALLY included in ONE box set?! And on Blu-ray?! Heck yes! Sign me up! I placed my pre-order the second it went live. And then... Over the next few months things just got... disappointing. Okay, beyond disappointing. Honestly, a lot of it I can overlook. I really can! The artwork seems lazy, but whatever. The fact that "Friday The 13th Part III" will not be included in real 3D, despite the fact that this is the year 2013, also gets chalked up to laziness in my book. For me, yeah it would be cool to have it in real 3D, but it's still not a deal breaker for me. The fact that parts 5-10 are slapped, two movies on one disc (while the other movies each get their own disc), is just... Sigh... You guessed it! Lazy. We all know the more you have on the disc, the crappier the picture and audio quality will be. And we FINALLY get a "Complete Collection", yet you can't seem to include the special features from the previous releases. "Complete"? Far from it, me thinks. And (drum roll, please) the final, completely unacceptable straw for me is the fact that this box set will contain only the R rated theatrical versions of the films. Now, hear me out. I'm not talking about the desperately desired uncut versions of the later films. All F13 fans know all that cut footage has since been "destroyed" or "lost". Lol. Me, too. I'm feeling a bit destroyed and lost at the moment. Anyway, I'm simply talking about the versions that have already been released unrated/uncut on DVD and on Blu-ray - the original "Friday The 13th", "Jason Goes To Hell", and the 2009 remake of "Friday The 13th". Now, I'm having a hard time understanding exactly WHY these version aren't included. I mean, we all know they exist. We OWN them. Do you really expect us to "double dip" (yet again) on such a sad, lazy, slapped-together product? Sure you do : ) Well, I for one just cancelled my pre-order. Now, I know there's no time for WB to fix all of these unacceptable problems, what with the release date looming ever closer. But take note Warner Bros./New Line Cinema/Paramount Pictures - I would GLADLY pay hundreds (yes, hundreds!) of dollars for a REAL complete collection. You know, one that ACTUALLY looks like someone gave a darn? I think the way you look at it is, "Gasp! Did you see there's a F13 documentary coming out?! We need to cash in on that! Quick, lets slap this together ASAP and get it on the shelves STAT! They'll buy it again, right? We'll give 'em a patch and a put it in an oversized tin (that's probably DVD sized and will look odd on their shelves) and not even put the name of the set on the side (according to the picture) so no one will know what it is! Oh, and we'll rip out some of the pages from that big book they all have, so they can have a smaller version to go with their coasters!" Sound about right? It all comes down to laziness. Do it right the first time and you'll sell a ton. Pull this stunt and sit back and watch the pre-orders cancel one by one. Maybe you'll get it right here in another five years or so and re-re-re-release the "Ultimate/Unrated/Special/Uncut/Directors/Anniversary/Birthday/Machete/Killer/Collection" or whatever you can slap together at the last possible second. Oh, and the whole not answering emails/Facebook comments and pretending you have no clue what is/isn't included in the set is just childish. Get it together, people. I hope no customers get fooled by this upcoming "collection". I hope the stores are flooded with returns on Saturday the 14th. Oh, and whoever is running the WBShop.com Facebook page REALLY needs to take a class in customer service. SO many RUDE comments to potential customers. I realize the continuous F13 questions get real old, real quick, but like I said... If you had gotten it right the first time, there wouldn't be a problem. ---

Thank you for voicing your concerns to them, but seriously, without paragraphs, that's seriously hard to read. I'm just saying. I do agree 100% with everything you said.

[Herbie_06]

Originally Posted by SammyJankis

Because it is a piece of crap.

I watched both movies yesterday. I never was a fan of "Jason Goes To Hell: The Final Friday" while "Jason X" always used to be one of my favorites. But I actually kind of enjoyed JGTH yesterday while was quite bored by "Jason X". The interior of the spaceship and the guns / weapons rather seemed like "plastic" to me and the whole movie felt kind of "cheap". I really enjoyed it a lot more when I watched it years ago.

Just in case anyone cares: I made a few screenshots (compressed as JPG files) of both movies...

Jason Goes To Hell: The Final Friday
Jason X

To watch them at full resolution choose "..." (lower right corner) and then click the square above.

[btpeters]

If Jason Goes To Hell is the rated cut, that's a real shame, but its not a deal breaker. There's 11 other movies in the set haha.

I know some of you already have 1-3. I am a big fan of the series, but personally I waited for a set like this, cuz you know its inevitable. (or for all of them to be available, which Paramount DID have plans for 4-6 for Oct 2009, but dropped them). So i only own Freddy Vs. Jason & the remake cuz i figured those would never be in a box set. Sucks I'll be double dipping on what are likely the exact same discs, but that's on me, not Warner Bros. And you gotta realize, this is Warner's FIRST release of this franchise. So its all new to them. Whatever Paramount released in the past, that's not on Warner Bros.

I prefer the rated cut of 1, so...i guess i'm not disappointed there.

I still have my DVD of the uncut version of Hell and according to everyone here, its available digitally in HD. And if they ever release it uncut and its by itself or something on blu i'm sure it'll be a measely 7.99 or something.

Its a misstep, but not one to warrant bringing the wrath of god upon WB. I'm sure they have their reasons. I don't think "hey, let's piss off the fans" was the mentality going in. None of us know what happened producing this set, but we all seem to be pretty positive we know whatever it was, was done with the worst possible intentions.

If you want the set, get it. If you don't, save your money. All Friday the 13th movies available in their theatrical form in HD finally is better than none. There's always a "better" way to do it, yeah. But, it took this long to get these things out in the first place, do you really think they're gonna turn around and do another box set quickly? You're getting parts 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12 that you've always been familiar with(and most of us the first one's theatrical cut). if one of them that is usually unrated but is now the theatrical cut...which, honestly...is the only thing they're obligated to deliver...is it worth crying so much and canceling a preorder on 11 other films you want?

Its funny that Jason Goes to Hell...notoriously on most peoples "Most hated list" is now a deal breaker for this set to people.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Herbie_06

It would make "sense" if Warner Bros. wanted the whole box set to be rated R. And that apparently is the case.
It's also a bit strange - and that doesn't aim at your comment - that people are complaining now. That "theatrical cuts only" information is two months (?) old. And (almost) everybody said it had to be a mistake. And now as all box sets are most likely already waiting in warehouses to be shipped on Semptember 13th and nothing can be done about it anymore people start to complain and "threatening" Warner Bros. to cancel their orders.

That's exactly why we're complaining now - don't you get it? It sounded so ridiculous that they would only be releasing the R-rated versions that nobody could even believe it - we all thought it had to be a mis-print. It wasn't until it was confirmed that the R-rated cuts are what we're getting that everybody is finally getting upset. Nobody made an issue of it before because nobody believed it was true. And people did write to them weeks ago for answers - they were just ignored, or again, couldn't believe the information was accurate.

Originally Posted by Herbie_06

I saw screenshot comparisons on the internet and the DVDs definitely did NOT look better. It may not be the best looking Blu-rays on the market but compared to the old DVDs the Blu-rays look better without a doubt. Some parts (at least part five) even got a corrected framing on Blu-ray.

Part 3 of Nightmare was brighter and better-looking on DVD than blu-ray. Sure, there was more detail on the blu-ray, but the image was so dark and murky compared to the DVD that the blu-ray actually looked worse as far as I'm concerned. there's more to an image than just the sharpness and detail. If it's overly-dark or the color is off, what good is the extra resolution?

Originally Posted by mcnairfan

+100 again if jgth is a dealbreaker for anyone there not a "hardcore" fan to begin with. I'm sure if Canada is getting the uncut for part 1 there going to go the cheap route and put it in here as well, so no worries the extra 11 seconds reaching falling will be there lol. As for jgth as long as they dont edit out freddy grabbing his mask at the end i see no reason to complain it was the only good part of the movie, hell it doesnt show jason for 90% of the movie just some random person killing someone.

So because a fan doesn't buy everything they get shoveled by the studio, no questions asked, that means they aren't a real fan? Real fans also know when they're getting screwed.

[bigdaddyhorse]

Some of us refuse to do digital copies or downloads, so that argument holds no water for them trying to sell me a Blu-ray set if I can't watch the Blu-rays!

I'll still buy In The Mouth of Madness as it's a favorite, but will be buying less WB titles and trying to get hem used if all this shit is true. WB has avoided my shitlist til now. I don't mind a few lossy audio tracks as my ears aren't great from years of music, but refusing to release unrated things they have already is too much to let slide. If I had a 3D TV I'd be even more angry about part 3. Why is everything I hear about this getting worse and worse?
**** you if all this is true WB. Hope you read this, hope you make a snarky remark on facebook about it, Hope you go out of biz cuz of it!

[Ill_Be_Back]

Someone asked WBshop where to voice their opinion about the Friday the 13th Boxset.

Here is WBshop's reply.

Warner Bros. knows everyone's concerns already.

[ashedmaniac]

Originally Posted by mcnairfan

As far as people whining about the price it's under 10 dollars a movie give me a break.

Once again, in the case of many "hardcore fans" (which you accused people of not being earlier), they've already purchased these films on DVD and/or have almost half of them on Blu-ray already. So they're being expected to spend all of this money on (what some might consider) a minor picture upgrade for (in some cases) seven movies, some of which they might not even like (such as the R-rated cut of JGTH) - even though they may be able to own the ones they enjoy most separately later. You are acting like "hardcore fans" should be easy to please when they're the exact type of fans who have very specific tastes for "their franchise" and getting a good deal (because they already own a bunch of this stuff and are barely being given much of anything new).

I understand if someone perhaps doesn't own many yet (which I'm sure some could argue means they're not a "hardcore fan") and finds this set to be well-priced but your attitude toward the most hardcore of fans has been to call them "nitpicky" or refer to them "whining." If you're attempting to impress Warner Brothers by showing them that you can be just as inconsiderate of what fans want as Warner is, I suggest you just apply for a job with them through traditional channels rather than being dismissive and rude toward fans (who - it seems - could be argued to be more "hardcore" ones than you are) - all while you act like it's just your opinion.

It stops being "just your opinion" when you start making value judgments about the validity of other people's concerns as an excuse to dismiss them. Enjoy the box set and stop being dismissive toward those who might not.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by btpeters

If Jason Goes To Hell is the rated cut, that's a real shame, but its not a deal breaker. There's 11 other movies in the set haha.

I know some of you already have 1-3. I am a big fan of the series, but personally I waited for a set like this, cuz you know its inevitable. (or for all of them to be available, which Paramount DID have plans for 4-6 for Oct 2009, but dropped them). So i only own Freddy Vs. Jason & the remake cuz i figured those would never be in a box set. Sucks I'll be double dipping on what are likely the exact same discs, but that's on me, not Warner Bros. And you gotta realize, this is Warner's FIRST release of this franchise. So its all new to them. Whatever Paramount released in the past, that's not on Warner Bros.

I prefer the rated cut of 1, so...i guess i'm not disappointed there.

I still have my DVD of the uncut version of Hell and according to everyone here, its available digitally in HD. And if they ever release it uncut and its by itself or something on blu i'm sure it'll be a measely 7.99 or something.

Its a misstep, but not one to warrant bringing the wrath of god upon WB. I'm sure they have their reasons. I don't think "hey, let's piss off the fans" was the mentality going in. None of us know what happened producing this set, but we all seem to be pretty positive we know whatever it was, was done with the worst possible intentions.

If you want the set, get it. If you don't, save your money. All Friday the 13th movies available in their theatrical form in HD finally is better than none. There's always a "better" way to do it, yeah. But, it took this long to get these things out in the first place, do you really think they're gonna turn around and do another box set quickly? You're getting parts 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12 that you've always been familiar with(and most of us the first one's theatrical cut). if one of them that is usually unrated but is now the theatrical cut...which, honestly...is the only thing they're obligated to deliver...is it worth crying so much and canceling a preorder on 11 other films you want?

Its funny that Jason Goes to Hell...notoriously on most peoples "Most hated list" is now a deal breaker for this set to people.

Good post!
Yes, it's funny how the "point of contention" has morphed from No 3D to No unrated JGTH.

As for Part I, I'm pretty sure 99% of the people buying this set already own Part I, so you can swap the disc. Not ideal, but at least that fixes one problem.

A few extras are not being ported over from the dvds? And? This has been happening since the dawn of Home Video. I'll never understand how this, in 2013, this still astounds some people. I'll be getting the Crystal Lake Memories, which is loaded with extra material...in fact, it's ALL extra material! Again not an ideal fix, but when you look at the big picture most fans will have more F13 BD material than they did on 9/12/13.

JGTH no unrated...a shame, but certainly not a dealbreaker. A year ago, this movie was shite...now in the span of 1 month it's become the Holy Grail of the F13 franchise. Give me a break.

Yeah between this set($70.97) and a 30-40 autographed BD of CLM($42.99), I can't really complain. But that's just me.

[Levi86Athan]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Good post!
Yes, it's funny how the "point of contention" has morphed from No 3D to No unrated JGTH.

As for Part I, I'm pretty sure 99% of the people buying this set already own Part I, so you can swap the disc. Not ideal, but at least that fixes one problem.

A few extras are not being ported over from the dvds? And? This has been happening since the dawn of Home Video. I'll never understand how this, in 2013, this still astounds some people. I'll be getting the Crystal Lake Memories, which is loaded with extra material...in fact, it's ALL extra material! Again not an ideal fix, but when you look at the big picture most fans will have more F13 BD material than they did on 9/12/13.

JGTH no unrated...a shame, but certainly not a dealbreaker. A year ago, this movie was shite...now in the span of 1 month it's become the Holy Grail of the F13 franchise. Give me a break.

Yeah between this set($70.97) and a 30-40 autographed BD of CLM($42.99), I can't really complain. But that's just me.

"30-40 autographed BD of CLM($42.99)." Are you referring to the Dark Delicacies CLM Doc release party? The guest list shows only 15, 7 of those people actually appearing in one of the movies. Pretty bummed, was gonna go, not so sure anymore though...

[Ill_Be_Back]

Originally Posted by rickah88

JGTH no unrated...a shame, but certainly not a dealbreaker. A year ago, this movie was shite...now in the span of 1 month it's become the Holy Grail of the F13 franchise. Give me a break.

I have never said Jason Goes to Hell was terrible, it's different but it's much better than X, Freddy vs. Jason and the remake in my opinion. But I do agree that the people who are now crying about it not being uncut have bashed it in the past in this thread.

[SammyJankis]

Originally Posted by rickah88

JGTH no unrated...a shame, but certainly not a dealbreaker. A year ago, this movie was shite...now in the span of 1 month it's become the Holy Grail of the F13 franchise. Give me a break.

So much truth in this.

[mcnairfan]

I made the comment about "hardcore" fans because so many are using that excuse as to why they need jgth uncut or refuse to purchase the set. To me a "hardcore" fan would quit whining and crying about the crappiest shitfest of the series being uncut and realize how nice a set this is.

[KrugStillo]

I think it's rather obvious (regardless of what the random customer service associates at the WB shop say) that discs 1 through 4 of this set will be the previously released Blu-ray discs (minus 4 of course cause that never came out but it was supposed to at one point so this must just be that already authored disc) that most of us had. Meaning that part 1 will be the uncut version. It may not say that on the packaging but I really don't feel we need to worry about that. From that point on they obviously had to make new discs cause those are the double feature ones (5,6-7,8-9,10). As far as JGTH is concerned it really depends which version was actually given an HD transfer within the past few years. If an unrated version does exist in HD then we may get lucky. However, if both exist we may just get the R-Rated theatrical version. Look at the double feature sets coming out in Canada. Those will probably each have 2 discs which means they were the previously created Blu-ray discs (regardless of the fact that 4 never got released). Oh and 1 more thing. Some of these WB Shop people could be at home associates that just work from their house and know nothing more than what is listed on pages in front of them. My wife works for Starwood Hotels from home and she is told to tell customers that she is either at the hotel or a call center. The customers don't know she works from home. That is just the way it works. Don't be so harsh on them they don't know any more than you do.

[John Floyd]

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[Jason_X]

Except the Tent Scene I never found out JGTH entertaining.

As far as the Boxset concerns... I can tell you guyz that Wb or Paramount WILL NEVER give Fans THE COMPLETE UNCUT Package. They will ALWAYS cut here & there to keep the cash flow in.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by KrugStillo

I think it's rather obvious (regardless of what the random customer service associates at the WB shop say) that discs 1 through 4 of this set will be the previously released Blu-ray discs (minus 4 of course cause that never came out but it was supposed to at one point so this must just be that already authored disc) that most of us had. Meaning that part 1 will be the uncut version. It may not say that on the packaging but I really don't feel we need to worry about that. From that point on they obviously had to make new discs cause those are the double feature ones (5,6-7,8-9,10). As far as JGTH is concerned it really depends which version was actually given an HD transfer within the past few years. If an unrated version does exist in HD then we may get lucky. However, if both exist we may just get the R-Rated theatrical version. Look at the double feature sets coming out in Canada. Those will probably each have 2 discs which means they were the previously created Blu-ray discs (regardless of the fact that 4 never got released). Oh and 1 more thing. Some of these WB Shop people could be at home associates that just work from their house and know nothing more than what is listed on pages in front of them. My wife works for Starwood Hotels from home and she is told to tell customers that she is either at the hotel or a call center. The customers don't know she works from home. That is just the way it works. Don't be so harsh on them they don't know any more than you do.

JGTH is currently online in HD, uncut. So the uncut version does exist in HD.

[Doombear]

Originally Posted by mar3o

JGTH is currently online in HD, uncut. So the uncut version does exist in HD.

When I acquire this set, the tent scene will be the first thing I'll check!

[btpeters]

So, if you were smart or had the will power and waited for the inevitable set of all these films together, rather than purchase each individual one knowing they're going to do something later...that makes you not a "hardcore fan" haha.

I've owned these multiple times on VHS and DVD. My apologies if I was patient when it came to the Blu-ray renditions because of past knowledge on how they release these and am excited for this set.

I think your concerns are indeed valid. But end of the world they are not. And the vile way they're being expressed by some people on here makes for an entertaining read to say the least.

I enjoy Rich1983's take, as he's fully aware of where he stands personally and doesn't blame Warner Bros for his past purchases.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by Donnaholic89

Well, here's what I said in the email I just sent... Lol.

Yep, that's right! I'm writing this review less than a month before the product has actually been released. A few months ago, when this was announced, I was SO excited! I'm sure just about every "Friday The 13th" fan was! I mean, ALL of the films FINALLY included in ONE box set?! And on Blu-ray?! Heck yes! Sign me up! I placed my pre-order the second it went live. And then... Over the next few months things just got... disappointing. Okay, beyond disappointing. Honestly, a lot of it I can overlook. I really can! The artwork seems lazy, but whatever. The fact that "Friday The 13th Part III" will not be included in real 3D, despite the fact that this is the year 2013, also gets chalked up to laziness in my book. For me, yeah it would be cool to have it in real 3D, but it's still not a deal breaker for me. The fact that parts 5-10 are slapped, two movies on one disc (while the other movies each get their own disc), is just... Sigh... You guessed it! Lazy. We all know the more you have on the disc, the crappier the picture and audio quality will be. And we FINALLY get a "Complete Collection", yet you can't seem to include the special features from the previous releases. "Complete"? Far from it, me thinks. And (drum roll, please) the final, completely unacceptable straw for me is the fact that this box set will contain only the R rated theatrical versions of the films. Now, hear me out. I'm not talking about the desperately desired uncut versions of the later films. All F13 fans know all that cut footage has since been "destroyed" or "lost". Lol. Me, too. I'm feeling a bit destroyed and lost at the moment. Anyway, I'm simply talking about the versions that have already been released unrated/uncut on DVD and on Blu-ray - the original "Friday The 13th", "Jason Goes To Hell", and the 2009 remake of "Friday The 13th". Now, I'm having a hard time understanding exactly WHY these version aren't included. I mean, we all know they exist. We OWN them. Do you really expect us to "double dip" (yet again) on such a sad, lazy, slapped-together product? Sure you do : ) Well, I for one just cancelled my pre-order. Now, I know there's no time for WB to fix all of these unacceptable problems, what with the release date looming ever closer. But take note Warner Bros./New Line Cinema/Paramount Pictures - I would GLADLY pay hundreds (yes, hundreds!) of dollars for a REAL complete collection. You know, one that ACTUALLY looks like someone gave a darn? I think the way you look at it is, "Gasp! Did you see there's a F13 documentary coming out?! We need to cash in on that! Quick, lets slap this together ASAP and get it on the shelves STAT! They'll buy it again, right? We'll give 'em a patch and a put it in an oversized tin (that's probably DVD sized and will look odd on their shelves) and not even put the name of the set on the side (according to the picture) so no one will know what it is! Oh, and we'll rip out some of the pages from that big book they all have, so they can have a smaller version to go with their coasters!" Sound about right? It all comes down to laziness. Do it right the first time and you'll sell a ton. Pull this stunt and sit back and watch the pre-orders cancel one by one. Maybe you'll get it right here in another five years or so and re-re-re-release the "Ultimate/Unrated/Special/Uncut/Directors/Anniversary/Birthday/Machete/Killer/Collection" or whatever you can slap together at the last possible second. Oh, and the whole not answering emails/Facebook comments and pretending you have no clue what is/isn't included in the set is just childish. Get it together, people. I hope no customers get fooled by this upcoming "collection". I hope the stores are flooded with returns on Saturday the 14th. Oh, and whoever is running the WBShop.com Facebook page REALLY needs to take a class in customer service. SO many RUDE comments to potential customers. I realize the continuous F13 questions get real old, real quick, but like I said... If you had gotten it right the first time, there wouldn't be a problem. ---

Well I hope you've added a couple of paragraphs in the email, so it could be easier for them to read it, that's if they'll read it at all.