Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I have a turkey korma or regular curry.

doesn't the turkey over cook?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

doesn't the turkey over cook?

No, I add it last at a low heat and just leave to simmer (covered) for around 15 minutes. It tastes good. Have it with some rice or naan. Family enjoy it also.

I then stuff my face with raspberry fondant macaroons in the evening when watching a film in the HT. probably No Time To Die lol.

For those that don’t know, they are Scottish macaroons that have a delicious raspberry fondant centre and are covered in coconut and chocolate. They come in chunky bars of around six and a half inches and are quite deeply filled also.

[JohnAV]

Box Office: ‘Encanto’ Leads Subdued Thanksgiving Parade With $40.3M, ‘House of Gucci’ Struts to $21.8M - Hollywood Reporter 11/28

'Encanto,' 'House of Gucci' and 'Licorice Pizza' all set pandemic-era records for their respective genres, but the box office recovery remains sluggish overall.

While moviegoing over the long 2021 Thanksgiving corridor didn’t come close to reaching pre-pandemic levels, Hollywood feasted on gains for family fare and adult dramas.

Walt Disney Animation’s original musical adventure Encanto topped the domestic chart with a Wednesday-Sunday opening of $40.3 million, the best start of the pandemic era for an animated title. That includes $27 million for the three-day weekend. Overseas, Encanto opened to $29.3 million from more than 47 markets for a global launch of $69.6 million.

Disney always releases an animated film over Thanksgiving, albeit to far bigger numbers. The last original movie to launch over the holiday, Coco, posted a five-day domestic gross of $72.9 million in 2018. Among franchise installments, Frozen II amassed more than $125 million for the five days in 2019.

While Encanto opened in line with expectations, many in Hollywood had hoped it would do more. There’s concern over the pace of the overall box office recovery, particularly in the wake of the new, omicron COVID-19 variant, which could spook domestic audiences after already prompting some cinema closures in parts of Europe.

Encanto, featuring original songs from Lin-Manuel Miranda, tells the tale of a Colombian teenager who has to save her extended family’s magic, although she has no special gifts of her own. Byron Howard, Jared Bush and Charise Castro Smith directed, while the voice cast includes Stephanie Beatriz, María Cecilia Botero, Wilmer Valderrama, Adassa, Diane Guerrero, Mauro Castillo, Angie Cepeda, Jessica Darrow, Rhenzy Feliz, Carolina Gaitán, Ravi Cabot-Conyers and John Leguizamo.

Fueled by Latinos and an A CinemaScore in North America, Encanto was the first animated studio title to receive an exclusive theatrical window since the COVID-19 crisis struck in spring 2020 (until recently, kids under the age of 11 couldn’t be vaccinated).

MGM and United Artists’ House of Gucci was another Thanksgiving winner.

Directed by Ridley Scott, Gucci sewed up a five-day debut of $21.8 million and $14.2 million for the weekend, both record numbers for an adult drama in the pandemic era and reflecting star Lady Gaga’s appeal among younger adults. Nearly half of ticket buyers, or 45 percent, were between the ages of 18-34, while 34 percent were 45 and older.

Gucci placed No. 3 behind Encanto and holdover Ghostbusters: Afterlife. Overseas, the drama opened to $12.9 million from 40 markets for a global start of $34.7 million.

“This is definite progress,” says United Artists’ distribution chief Erik Lomis. “Original stories still matter. I think that’s a big deal.”

Lomis was referring to both Gucci and Paul Thomas Anderson’s Licorice Pizza, which MGM and United Artists opened in exclusive 70mm runs in four theaters in New York and Los Angeles. The movie posted a per theater average of $84,000, by far the best average since the pandemic began.

A player in the awards race, House of Gucci stars Lady Gaga as the wife of fashion scion Maurizio Gucci, played by Adam Driver. Al Pacino and Jared Leto also star in this tale of murderous revenge. It received a B+ CinemaScore from audiences (one reason could be its 158-minute running time).

One new offering that didn’t fare so well was Sony and Screen Gems’ reboot Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City, which posted a five-day domestic debut of $8.8 million to place No. 5. The action-horror pic is directed by Johannes Roberts and stars Kaya Scodelario, Hannah John-Kamen, Robbie Amell, Tom Hopper, Avan Jogia, Donal Logue and Neal McDonough. Overseas, the pic opened to $5.1 million from 15 markets for a global start of $13.9 million.

Sony is faring far better with Jason Reitman’s family friendly Ghostbusters: Afterlife, which finished Sunday with an estimated 10-day domestic total of $87.8 million and $115.8 million worldwide.

Afterlife grossed $35.3 million domestically for the five-day Thanksgiving frame — not far behind Encanto — including $24.5 million for the weekend.

Warner Bros.’ King Richard fell to No. 7 in its second weekend to finish Sunday with a subdued domestic cume of roughly $11 million. The adult drama and Oscar hopeful stars Will Smith as Richard Williams, the father of Venus and Serena Williams. King Richard is also available on HBO Max.

King Richard is also having trouble scoring points internationally, where it has earned $5.2 million to date for a worldwide cume of $16.6 million.

if you curious if Eternals was still around, it domestically made $11.4 million this 5 day weekend, moving to $150.6 total, and Worldwide it climbed to $368.4 Million. The Chinese movie marketplace has two most money making movies The Battle at Lake Changjin at $889 Million and Hi,Mon at $822 Million, neither show really much in other countries. At 3rd place is No Time to Die at $758 Million for worldwide 2021.

[kfbkfb]

https://nypost.com/2021/11/29/futuri...tion-and-work/
^^^
Within 30 years maybe the heirs of deceased movie stars will continue to make movies [starring their ancestors].


(all the while eating fluoridated cheeseburgers)


Kirk Bayne

[cheez avenger]

Watched Prometheus and Alien: Covenant on 4K disc and thought they looked and sounded phenomenal. The 4K HDR is stellar on both and the Atmos rocks on Covenant. The standard 7.1 on Prometheus rocks, but wish they had done an Atmos upgrade. No big deal since I only paid $9.99 for it on sale.

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Watched Prometheus and Alien: Covenant on 4K disc and thought they looked and sounded phenomenal. The 4K HDR is stellar on both and the Atmos rocks on Covenant. The standard 7.1 on Prometheus rocks, but wish they had done an Atmos upgrade. No big deal since I only paid $9.99 for it on sale.

I really liked how Alien: Covenant looked. The scene where they fix the sails and the scene in the terraforming bay in slow motion were amazing.

[kfbkfb]

https://www.flickeralley.com/mod/mod-faqs/

I got my 1st "MOD" DVD in 2016 and bought another last month (thru Amazon).

I copied several of my music CDs to blank CDs (beginning ~15 years ago) and keep them in my car, some of the CDs have begun to deteriorate, there are clicks and mutes on the content toward the outer edge of the CD.

"MOD" DVDs began to be made in 2009, anyone have any deterioration problems with them?


Kirk Bayne

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by kfbkfb

https://www.flickeralley.com/mod/mod-faqs/

I got my 1st "MOD" DVD in 2016 and bought another last month (thru Amazon).

I copied several of my music CDs to blank CDs (beginning ~15 years ago) and keep them in my car, some of the CDs have begun to deteriorate, there are clicks and mutes on the content toward the outer edge of the CD.

"MOD" DVDs began to be made in 2009, anyone have any deterioration problems with them?


Kirk Bayne

Hmm that's quite a short lifetime. I've been buying more CDs this year than in previous years (mostly soundtracks) so I'll have to keep an eye on my old ones.

I didn't know MOD physical media was a thing until maybe a month ago. I don't own any titles myself outside of a CD-R I bought recently.

[kfbkfb]

Until last year, my car was parked outside in the Midwest USA summers and winters, my CD-Rs are Memorex, Fuji, Sony, Philips.

In 2007, I bought a DVD recorder and I've recorded a large number of DVDs [mostly Maxell blank DVD-Rs] (too many, I fact I'm going thru them discarding those I thought I would rewatch, but never have), so far, none of them have deteriorated.


Kirk Bayne

[unberechenbar]

I watched Eternals last night. It did feel kind of new for Marvel but I couldn't get on board with what the Eternals were doing which muted my appreciation for the movie. I was really looking forward to the space sequences and they looked great but were mostly flashbacks instead of action. I think the strongest part of the movie was the ethical question it posed, which I wasn't expecting from a Marvel movie.

[stmhlm]

Boy, I wish we had a storage media allowing for non-compressed home video releases, like, a 800GB movie.
Blu-ray is compressed, unsure how much benefit an uncompressed alternative would bring, but I mean why not.
Streaming relies heavily on internet infrastructure, the average consumer speeds, would love a tiny, massive, physical home media format, wouldn't you?

I mean, all Blu-ray releases are compressed, what if studios could just take the raw file, put it on something commercially viable, bloody amazing.
Would allow for original theatrical audio bitrates, and video bitrates, for that matter, a lot easier to put theatrical mixes onto a consumer format, I'd guess.

[stmhlm]

Is this how physical media survives?
https://gizmodo.com/researchers-thin...0tb-1847974548

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by stmhlm

Is this how physical media survives?
https://gizmodo.com/researchers-thin...0tb-1847974548

The data transfer rate is way too slow for video: 230KB of data every second. It's strictly a numbers/data archival system. Things like Sales Reports, Revenue, Depreciation, etc.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by stmhlm

Boy, I wish we had a storage media allowing for non-compressed home video releases, like, a 800GB movie.
Blu-ray is compressed, unsure how much benefit an uncompressed alternative would bring, but I mean why not.
Streaming relies heavily on internet infrastructure, the average consumer speeds, would love a tiny, massive, physical home media format, wouldn't you?

I mean, all Blu-ray releases are compressed, what if studios could just take the raw file, put it on something commercially viable, bloody amazing.
Would allow for original theatrical audio bitrates, and video bitrates, for that matter, a lot easier to put theatrical mixes onto a consumer format, I'd guess.

Uncompressed movies run in TB, not GB. Digital Cinema uses JPEG2000 for it's compression. The final result is exactly like the original only compressed down to about 360 GB.

Hollywood makes a very distinct difference between consumer home video and professional commerical theaterical video. And never will they overlap.

[bhampton]

I really wonder what my local theater gets for movies.

They don't even have a sloped floor or masking system or black ceiling tiles.

I don't think it's still film but I'm fairly sure it's not the best version whatever they get.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by stmhlm

I mean, all Blu-ray releases are compressed, what if studios could just take the raw file, put it on something commercially viable, bloody amazing.

Finished 16 bit RAW 4:4:4 video will be in the 2 to 4 TB range for a title. I seriously doubt most major content creators will ever release high data rate 4:2:2 video to the consumer, 4:4:4 is a non starter.

Consumer video is fairly low data rate 4:2:0 and not likely to change in the foreseeable future. Some of the HD content on Netflix is down to the 1 Mbps range. Just be glad that we have BD and UHD BD that can provide fairly high data rates and lossless audio and do so at prices much lower than those in the days of LaserDisc (LD).

[bhampton]

UHD BD

works for me


I don't care if Kaleidescape systems get a tiny bit more data. If I ever know someone silly enough to own one of those systems I'll be happy to check it out. They can have the little bit of value they have. It's no where near enough to justify the price they set.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by stmhlm

Is this how physical media survives?
https://gizmodo.com/researchers-thin...0tb-1847974548

It survives regardless.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I don't care if Kaleidescape systems get a tiny bit more data. If I ever know someone silly enough to own one of those systems I'll be happy to check it out.

For those that are worth many millions and live where true high data rate service is available Kaleidescape becomes a viable alternate to disc.

For me, I am looking at the Synology DS1821+ with 8 12 to 14 TB drives. Just purchased a Zidoo Z9X media player and MakeMKV. Waiting on reviews of the Zappiti Neo to see if it has anything on the Z9X.

[bhampton]

40+ TB server here. (16,16,12)

I purchased MakeMKV also and tend to use it every day. That Zidoo looks neat and it's not uber expensive. Seems like something I should look into also.