Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

I watch movies and TV shows every day. But I never focus on trying to watch everything I haven't seen; if I did that it would seem like a chore.

I watch whatever I want to watch whenever the mood strikes me.

agree 100%, I will add that I want a healthy supply of unwatched just to have that option of something "new"

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Thank you all for the get well wishes.

It is day three and I feel like crap, but I am still at home. They put me on that new anti-viral drug Paxlovid, which leaves a nasty bitter aftertaste that I can not shake for anything.

I do not even feel well enough to watch any movies. I spend most of my time in bed in and out of sleep. That's where I'm headed now.

sorry to hear, really hope it starts getting better.

[veritas]

My iPad no longer can run vudu due to its age and I can’t play videos that I had previously downloaded without an update the iPad doesn’t support. It really shows the fragility of digital copies and how quickly they can brick.

It also shows an added cost to going digital as I would now need a new iPad just to access my digital library on an iPad.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by veritas

My iPad no longer can run vudu due to its age and I can’t play videos that I had previously downloaded without an update the iPad doesn’t support. It really shows the fragility of digital copies and how quickly they can brick.

It also shows an added cost to going digital as I would now need a new iPad just to access my digital library on an iPad.

Apple is a good Company but they want everyone in their Ecosystem, do you have iTunes? I access my Digital Library with my Sony UHD TV with Android Apps.....No Problems!

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Apple is a good Company but they want everyone in their Ecosystem, do you have iTunes? I access my Digital Library with my Sony UHD TV with Android Apps.....No Problems!

You need to disable all the auto stuff on your TV, that way you could see what the picture really looks like instead of the pasty, ever thing looks the same image you are now seeing.

Last night we were watching S1, E2 of The Wheel of Time via Prime Video using the ATV4K and in some scenes the aliasing/quantizing noise was really bad in the darker background. So I switched to the Nvidia Shield Pro (Android) and the video aberrations persisted. So I called up the Prime diagnostic screen and it showed the video bit rate as 20 Mbps. IMO, some of this is a result of AI doing the rendering with no human intervention or QC. Saw a little of this type problem on a couple of episodes Game of Thrones via UHD BD.

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[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

You need to disable all the auto stuff on your TV, that way you could see what the picture really looks like instead of the pasty, ever thing looks the same image you are now seeing.

Thanks Wendell but everything looks fine on my Sony UHD TV, nothing pasty IMO. I can watch Prime, Netflix, Vudu, Hulu, Peacock, or any other streaming Provider with No Problem!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

Oil/gas is highly transportable, it is a light liquid that is dense in energy and so even though the price at the pump can be a bit different due to transportation, taxes.... the price of a barrel is the same no matter where you live in the world and it can be moved by pipe, boat, train and truck....

Electricity on the other hand can't be transported easily, it needs high power lines and even there it is limited.

Natural gas (the real issue here) is in between the two. It can easily be transported by pipe as a gas extremely long distances but it is too voluminous and so anything other than pipe needs the infrastructure and power to squeeze it to liquid form and then specialized containers that can hold that extra pressure to move it by ship or train or .... which increases the transport cost

The price for NG here has been relatively stable but in Europe it is 4 or 5 times what it used to be a couple of years ago and in the UK (that steed cares for) it tends to be from around 1/3 to 2/3 of the source of electricity used
https://cms.zerohedge.com/s3/files/inline-images/db%20nat%20gas.jpg?itok=DmU7Avh4[/img]

he is not (like your chart) talking of 15 cents a kwh but possibly over 0.5 or 0.6 pounds a kwh and no one knows how much higher the price of NG can go (and so with it the price of electricity).

Yearly estimates to run a 55 inch tv (5 hours use per day) in the U.K. are £27. No doubt that will increase in 2023.

It doesn’t say anything about projectors lol.

[Anthony P]

I tnink there are valid reasons why people might not want to build a (physical) collection (way more expensive) and there are valid reasons why people will have a collection and stream (content not available on physical media right now. But personally I don't subscribe to any streaming service, given the choice I will always rather watch one of the physical copies I bought over something streaming and since there is not enough time in a month to watch all the movies I buy I will never find the time to watch something on streaming so it would be a waste of money for me.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Apple is a good Company but they want everyone in their Ecosystem, do you have iTunes? I access my Digital Library with my Sony UHD TV with Android Apps.....No Problems!

it is not about ipad nor apples desire to add people to its cult nor streaming. The same thing happens with other systems on other devises.

you need the latest version of the SW, it needs a newer OS and the newer OS can't install on your old device because of the HW.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Thanks Wendell but everything looks fine on my Sony UHD TV, nothing pasty IMO. I can watch Prime, Netflix, Vudu, Hulu, Peacock, or any other streaming Provider with No Problem!

Setting a display device to be like a video monitor has nothing to do with sources. You need to look at the video again that I made reference to in this post here.

Access to internet video services has been doable for many years now, does not require very much PWA real estate. Several sticks here just to show how little.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yearly estimates to run a 55 inch tv (5 hours use per day) in the U.K. are £27. No doubt that will increase in 2023.

It doesn’t say anything about projectors lol.

If someone has an old Plasma TV it would be a lot higher, but for the most part TVs are a lot more equally matched so a lot easier to calculate a rough average given the size. Projectors can use bulbs or LED and they don't have a size (but some have brighter light sources and so better for larger displays) so it is a lot harder to make such a table.

that being said all equipment will have that info in the manual

for example if I remember correctly you have the Epson 9400 https://www.manuals.ca/epson/eh-tw9400w/manual?p=117 so that will be 355W (in the UK) when on and either 2W or 0.3W in standby (depends if communication is on or off) you can easily do the calculations yourself or enter those values in the calculator even if it is not a TV.

as to the £27 isn’t that the point everyone here has been trying to make? even if we assume the price makes it go up to £100 a year because of TOU or what ever no one will stop watching it is hard to save enough to make it worth it.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Setting a display device to be like a video monitor has nothing to do with sources. You need to look at the video again that I made reference to in this post here.

Access to internet video services has been doable for many years now, does not require very much PWA real estate. Several sticks here just to show how little.

you do realize even if the Tv got unplugged by mistake the streaming video quality will be fabulous.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yearly estimates to run a 55 inch tv (5 hours use per day) in the U.K. are £27. No doubt that will increase in 2023.

Is that supposed to be a high amount? Most people spend more than that every month on their internet bill.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Is that supposed to be a high amount? Most people spend more than that every month on their internet bill.

That’s just for tv use though. It’s also at the previous rates. Estimates are that we will go from 1200 to 7,000 for our energy bill per year! So that figure will dramatically increase. It’s absolutely crazy and if our government don’t jump in soon, people will die this winter and beyond.
Pensioners are handing over half their pensions just to survive. Soon that will be all of their pension.

We are a rich, developed country and we are letting our elderly die despite gas firms boasting 10 billion profits.
But I’m not going to comment further because it upsets me so much (it’s my own fault I know).

[veritas]

One thing I have found is digital is really unreliable. I don’t use digital to often but I find bugs all the time when I start relying on it more for travel. Vudu digital copies get an error. Transformers has audio desync. No longer works on my iPad. Prime is as clunky as ever. Funimation won’t let you download like it should.

Streaming is rather reliable but vod services seem to be full of bugs and customer support that fixes issues in somewhere between a month or 2 and never. Streaming knows it needs you to pay them each month but vod services already have your money and if one thing isn’t working they probably just hope you buy something else.

[Deadend45]

Streaming is going to have more and more commercials, thats going to happen for sure.

[murphywmm]

My brother thinks I’m crazy for plodding along with discs, but then he’s always complaining about certain movies not being available or being removed from streaming services. Meanwhile, I have them all on disk and can watch them anytime I want.

[Steedeel]

Delighted to see ‘Power Of The Dog’ and ‘Red Rocket’ getting UK Blu-Ray releases. Made my day!

[russweiss1]

As a film fan why would you limit yourself? Go to the theater, stream films, and buy physical copies.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Delighted to see ‘Power Of The Dog’ and ‘Red Rocket’ getting UK Blu-Ray releases. Made my day!

I'll definitely be getting Power of the Dog here 4K disc, but will wait for the CC sales they do.