Paramount joining?

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by brooks101189

I sometimes find it hard to believe that Paramount feels the fee is too much for them. They're not Lionsgate or MGM (which really has/had James Bond) - they're the home of the Mission Impossible, Star Trek, Transformers, Spongebob Squarepants and more.

It's not likely necessarily just due to the fee.

But then again, I could be seriously wrong.

It is more a vendetta thing with the MA Consortium which is not owned by Disney. Movies Anywhere's headquarter exists on Disney property but Disney does not own MA. The consortium is made up of representatives from the participating studios.

The consortium allowed lower entry fees and monthly payment requirements. Yes, it is a recurring cost to the studio. That was at launch to get studios on board. Now, the fees have gone up primarily to sting the studios who refuse to join initially. Paramount and Lionsgate both do not want to pay a recurring fee for a digital locker service.

Further, the consortium has purposely denied inclusion to STX Films because they only want major studios.

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by casperuk

It depends on how much and what it offers. I'm not a massive animé fan as it it. But if they roll in the Sony movies back catalogue, say it's 60 a year I might.

They won't, it's two different divisions of Sony.
The PlayStation is under SIE (Sony Interactive Entertainment) the same outfit that ran and after 5 years closed down PS Vue.

Sony Pictures (the movie/TV studio) has their movies as part of MA (Movies Anywhere) but yet ALL the PS Video content (movies) didn't span into MA. That's why, Sony Pictures has NOTHING to do with SIE, just like Sony Electronics has nothing to do with Sony Pictures.
I just got a new Bravia TV (A90J 65") back in May. One of the apps is BRAVIA CORE, they offered 10 credits to "buy" a movie on their BRAVIA CORE service, again, no "purchase" of any of those films (Sony's Pictures movies) merges to MA.

Sony seems to run their divisions almost like individual self-contained companies...with no interaction between them.

[casperuk]

Originally Posted by tjritter79

They won't, it's two different divisions of Sony.
The PlayStation is under SIE (Sony Interactive Entertainment) the same outfit that ran and after 5 years closed down PS Vue.

Sony Pictures (the movie/TV studio) has their movies as part of MA (Movies Anywhere) but yet ALL the PS Video content (movies) didn't span into MA. That's why, Sony Pictures has NOTHING to do with SIE, just like Sony Electronics has nothing to do with Sony Pictures.
I just got a new Bravia TV (A90J 65") back in May. One of the apps is BRAVIA CORE, they offered 10 credits to "buy" a movie on their BRAVIA CORE service, again, no "purchase" of any of those films (Sony's Pictures movies) merges to MA.

Sony seems to run their divisions almost like individual self-contained companies...with no interaction between them.

Well, in the link I posted up. Something is happening.

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by casperuk

Well, in the link I posted up. Something is happening.

More than likely Sony will either include Funimation+Crunchyroll with Playstation Plus memberships or roll PS Now into the service. They will not offer feature films from Sony Pictures due to the expiring Starz deal and upcoming Netflix deal.

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

More than likely Sony will either include Funimation+Crunchyroll with Playstation Plus memberships or roll PS Now into the service. They will not offer feature films from Sony Pictures due to the expiring Starz deal and upcoming Netflix deal.

F+C could also be taking the place of PS Video, which like Vue was also sunset, or will be.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

More than likely Sony will either include Funimation+Crunchyroll with Playstation Plus memberships or roll PS Now into the service. They will not offer feature films from Sony Pictures due to the expiring Starz deal and upcoming Netflix deal.

They were rumoured to be trialling a free offering of three or four rentals a month to be included with PS plus. I wish I could find the bloody article.

Edit: found, it’s just Poland.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...poland-for-now

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

They were rumoured to be trialling a free offering of three or four rentals a month to be included with PS plus. I wish I could find the bloody article.

Edit: found, it’s just Poland.

Stateside, they are shuttering PS Video as of the end of this month.
https://variety.com/2021/digital/new...od-1234919341/

IMO, the logic is sound. Gamers for the most part are more willing to spend "disposable" income on games rather then video rentals which really is more like a PPV. And any titles bought are exclusive only to the PS Store. So free or AVOD services seem to be their main choice.

[tjritter79]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

It is more a vendetta thing with the MA Consortium which is not owned by Disney. Movies Anywhere's headquarter exists on Disney property but Disney does not own MA. The consortium is made up of representatives from the participating studios.

The consortium allowed lower entry fees and monthly payment requirements. Yes, it is a recurring cost to the studio. That was at launch to get studios on board. Now, the fees have gone up primarily to sting the studios who refuse to join initially. Paramount and Lionsgate both do not want to pay a recurring fee for a digital locker service.

Further, the consortium has purposely denied inclusion to STX Films because they only want major studios.

You are correct that it's decisions ARE dictated by a consortium, but aside from that ownership is by Disney.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movies_Anywhere
The original service was known as Disney Movies Anywhere, and dealt strictly with Disney titles until the formation of the consortium.
https://www.disneymoviesanywhere.com/

Aside from the name change, the infrastructure was handled by BAMTech which also later became a Disney company and is now called Disney Streaming Services.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Streaming_Services

[casperuk]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

More than likely Sony will either include Funimation+Crunchyroll with Playstation Plus memberships or roll PS Now into the service. They will not offer feature films from Sony Pictures due to the expiring Starz deal and upcoming Netflix deal.

We won't know until they announce it

[Greyman]

Originally Posted by tjritter79

You are correct that it's decisions ARE dictated by a consortium, but aside from that ownership is by Disney.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movies_Anywhere
The original service was known as Disney Movies Anywhere, and dealt strictly with Disney titles until the formation of the consortium.
https://www.disneymoviesanywhere.com/

Aside from the name change, the infrastructure was handled by BAMTech which also later became a Disney company and is now called Disney Streaming Services.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Streaming_Services

The reference for MA ownership on Wikipedia is a Variety article. I would like to see more than that one article or source to confirm Disney ownership.

Edit: This deadline article states Disney ownership.
https://deadline.com/2017/10/four-ma...ce-1202186760/

Otherwise every longtime member here knows about DMA.

[casperuk]

If Sony are closing their various world wide video offerings. Maybe they are going to do some sorta global one around the PS+ setup. The Polish one I thought was going to be the test bed.

But alias nothing yet

[abbottd]

Originally Posted by Alan Gordon

Movies Anywhere is a great service, but outside of Watch Together and Screen Passes, they've been pretty stagnant. No new studio support (not counting HBO), no TV support (that they teased shortly after launch). Random inconsistencies still across storefronts, etc.

True, but it seems like they've been doing lots of small integrations and behind-the-scenes work versus big features like Screen Pass and further studio announcements. I've been seeing MA integrations pop up in lots of rewards programs like Disney Movie Insiders, Universal Rewards, and Sony Rewards. That may be small, but they're getting themselves out there more through different avenues and I see that as a good way to advertise and expand the business.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

The consortium allowed lower entry fees and monthly payment requirements. Yes, it is a recurring cost to the studio. That was at launch to get studios on board. Now, the fees have gone up primarily to sting the studios who refuse to join initially. Paramount and Lionsgate both do not want to pay a recurring fee for a digital locker service.

That's great, they're basically saying they don't want other studios to join then. If studios weren't going to join when the fees were lower then they certainly won't join when they're more.

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Further, the consortium has purposely denied inclusion to STX Films because they only want major studios.

So they want to stifle competition from other studios, but what do they have to worry about given they're the 600 pound gorilla in the room going against the little guy.

[Bubbles-11]

Paramount's upcoming release of Paw Patrol: The Movie on Blu-ray has the digital part listed as "DIGITAL CODE", like with releases from WB, Universal, and Disney.. Could we see the studio join MA in November??

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Bubbles-11

Paramount's upcoming release of Paw Patrol: The Movie on Blu-ray has the digital part listed as "DIGITAL CODE", like with releases from WB, Universal, and Disney.. Could we see the studio join MA in November??

No.

[Bubbles-11]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

No.

got it. thank you!

[DrrnHarr]

Originally Posted by tjritter79

You are correct that it's decisions ARE dictated by a consortium, but aside from that ownership is by Disney.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movies_Anywhere
The original service was known as Disney Movies Anywhere, and dealt strictly with Disney titles until the formation of the consortium.
https://www.disneymoviesanywhere.com/

Aside from the name change, the infrastructure was handled by BAMTech which also later became a Disney company and is now called Disney Streaming Services.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Streaming_Services

Is there even a debate....Doesn't everyone know that MA is Disney owned. Disney made that pretty clear when they launched MA

[Chedwiggen]

I wish Amazon and iTunes would have just joined UV.

[AZBrowncoat]

Originally Posted by Chedwiggen

I wish Amazon and iTunes would have just joined UV.

Pros and Cons either way IMHO.

MA has overall been better for me since it includes iTunes (as a retailer) and Disney (as a Studio). I still have all my old UV titles in my Vudu account along with all my other MA eligible purchases from other providers.

I do wish other studios were in a better position to join - Paramount, Lionsgate, MGM etc.

I've just resigned myself that I can only watch some titles on certain retailers and keep a spreadsheet of what is where.

[DrrnHarr]

Originally Posted by Chedwiggen

I wish Amazon and iTunes would have just joined UV.

Yes and no.

As @AZBrowncoat noted there are pro's and con's to both.

On the one hand:

• Disney never joined UV, keeping its library in DMA
• UV always seemed to have a clunky interface without the all-important app.
• With Disney since acquiring studios such as Fox I imagine that all the Fox titles would also have vanished from UV
• Amazon never joined UV
• With Amazon since acquiring studios such as MGM I imagine that all the MGM titles would also have vanished from UV

.

On the other hand:

• MGM was on UV with the James Bond movies and Pink Panther movies
• Paramount was also on UV

I've given up on Paramount ever joining MA. but I expect MGM movies will once they are part of Amazon

My preferred retailer is iTunes , though I do have some of my old UV movies on Vudu.

To be honest since Wal-Mart has divested itself of Vudu I think Vudu's future is bleak. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Vudu went belly-up