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Old 07-15-2008, 02:40 PM   #1
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Default Warner now releasing New Line Blu-ray???

I was reading on dvdactive.com that blow is being released by Warner Bros. Does this mean now that all New line titles are going to be released through Warner?

This is pretty cool seeing that most New Line titles are region locked and Warner's arent.

Anyone know any info on this?
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:48 PM   #2
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It is not cool. New Lines were dtsma 7.1 and good transfers. Most of warners are dolby digital 5.1 with poor transfers DNR'D to death. Warner either doesn't give a S**** or the people who left recently that wicky talked about who were red ants were doing it on purpose. I don't know. Or there is my take. Warner loves to double dip.
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I was reading on dvdactive.com that blow is being released by Warner Bros. Does this mean now that all New line titles are going to be released through Warner?

This is pretty cool seeing that most New Line titles are region locked and Warner's arent.

Anyone know any info on this?
New Line has been a subsidiary of Warner for years, but they recently restructured.

As for this being good news I would have to disagree because New Line has released some very good transfers on a much more consistent basis than Warner.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:49 PM   #4
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yeah isn't blow coming out in Dolby digital?? i will pass on that
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:51 PM   #5
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yeah isn't blow coming out in Dolby digital?? i will pass on that
Man! yeah i know they have been a part of Warner's for a while. i didn't know about the audio master's though that sucks.

I love nightmare on elm street and the 6.1 dtsES was amazing. I bet they'll mess that up if they ever releaee it.
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Old 07-15-2008, 02:53 PM   #6
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Warner has certainly left quite a bit to be desired on many movies. This wasnt good news IMO.
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WB does need to beef up their Blu-ray quality. But i think that in the past, they were doing things the fast cheap way by making it for HD DVD and porting it to BD. Now they still have that going on with their catch-up titles. BUT there is still a good chance that they will up the quality with newer titles.
We still have to wait and see what they do, but I do want lossless audio and the best video encodes they can give. I just wish they would do it faster and with all their releases.
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:02 PM   #8
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Warner has certainly left quite a bit to be desired on many movies.
Yeah, they haven't been making friends among us in the Blu community lately.
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Yeah, they haven't been making friends among us in the Blu community lately.
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:05 PM   #10
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lets get a email address and *****.
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Old 07-15-2008, 03:36 PM   #11
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Forget warner ahhhhhhhhhhh
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Old 07-15-2008, 05:59 PM   #12
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Has WB released any new titles with FULL Capability of Blu-ray.

Last time I checked Ganges, the bit rate runs from 15-20 Mbits, definetely HD DVD-friendly transfer.

and I heard 10,000 BC has high-1x bit rate too.

I wonder when will WB begin to use high 2x - 3x Mbps encode?
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:14 PM   #13
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Has WB released any new titles with FULL Capability of Blu-ray.

Last time I checked Ganges, the bit rate runs from 15-20 Mbits, definetely HD DVD-friendly transfer.

and I heard 10,000 BC has high-1x bit rate too.

I wonder when will WB begin to use high 2x - 3x Mbps encode?
WB has released several BD encoded films. "The Bucket List" and "Fool's Gold" are two that I own with bitrates peaking in the 40s. Several scenes hover in the 20s/30s (particularly in the "The Bucket List").

A quick check of "10,000 B.C." showed no signs of BD bitrates (unlike TBL and FG... which were hard to miss.

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Old 07-15-2008, 06:14 PM   #14
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goodbye DTS 7.1 sound, sad to see you go....
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:52 PM   #15
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The DTS-HD MA 7.1 tracks weren't even true 7.1 tracks though. They were the same effect that you'd get if you used some reciever processing modes like THX and others. But it does suck that they're not using DTS-HD MA. Just because WB can't even use Dolby TrueHD properly.

New Line movies were DNR'd to death, too. I don't know why someone would think they weren't after movies like The Orphanage and Hairspray and of course, Pan's Labyrinth.

And 10,000 BC is NOT a Blu-Ray encode. I don't know who started that rumor but it's absolutely encoded for HD DVD. There's even color banding in scenes, it's pretty bad.

As for the region locks, it's mostly due to the fact that New Line was releasing new releases that weren't even in theaters in other countries yet.
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The DTS-HD MA 7.1 tracks weren't even true 7.1 tracks though. They were the same effect that you'd get if you used some reciever processing modes like THX and others. But it does suck that they're not using DTS-HD MA. Just because WB can't even use Dolby TrueHD properly.

New Line movies were DNR'd to death, too. I don't know why someone would think they weren't after movies like The Orphanage and Hairspray and of course, Pan's Labyrinth.
Agree 100%. The whole 7.1 thing is a joke. If you have a 7.1 sound system, use the Doly PLIIx, THX, or other sound mode on your receiver to get it. There IS NO theatrical 7.1 sound system in use that uses 2 sides and 2 surrounds (Sony SDDS uses a 5 across the front configuration). All they do is matrix the surrounds for the Blu-ray 7.1 release... really nothing you couldn't do just as well on your receiver.

And I'm not sure where the 'New Line titles look great' idea came from -- Pan's Labyrinth is one of the textbook examples of too much DNR ruining a transfer.

All that said, Warner's transfers tend to be over-cleaned, over-DNR'd crap, so I guess moving New Line to the exact same process is a bad thing... though, New Line's releases have all been the same, anyway, as far as I'm concerned.

(Note: My opinions DO NOT reflect those of Warner Brothers or New Line, and are not meant as an insult to those at the studios who are aware of the issues with their transfers, but are unable to do anything to change the corporate policies.)
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Ugh. I hate Warner's transfers.
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Agree 100%. The whole 7.1 thing is a joke. If you have a 7.1 sound system, use the Doly PLIIx, THX, or other sound mode on your receiver to get it. There IS NO theatrical 7.1 sound system in use that uses 2 sides and 2 surrounds (Sony SDDS uses a 5 across the front configuration). All they do is matrix the surrounds for the Blu-ray 7.1 release... really nothing you couldn't do just as well on your receiver.

And I'm not sure where the 'New Line titles look great' idea came from -- Pan's Labyrinth is one of the textbook examples of too much DNR ruining a transfer.

All that said, Warner's transfers tend to be over-cleaned, over-DNR'd crap, so I guess moving New Line to the exact same process is a bad thing... though, New Line's releases have all been the same, anyway, as far as I'm concerned.

(Note: My opinions DO NOT reflect those of Warner Brothers or New Line, and are not meant as an insult to those at the studios who are aware of the issues with their transfers, but are unable to do anything to change the corporate policies.)
Exactly! Glad someone is on it! But I see more and more people going "I want to warrant my 7.1 system!!!" Personally, and I've said this a billion times, I love using THX Select2/Ultra2 because those speakers are always active then and the room is full of sound. But I do think when Disney starts doing the whole 7.1 thing, it'll actually be remixed entirely for home theaters.
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And I'm not sure where the 'New Line titles look great' idea came from -- Pan's Labyrinth is one of the textbook examples of too much DNR ruining a transfer.
New Line didn't (appear to) use "DNR" on "Shoot 'Em Up" or "Semi Pro". The latter I'm only assuming since I haven't seen it, but have heard a reviewer complain about the "grain" in it.

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