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Old 01-29-2020, 01:52 PM   #3761
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Jpapp25 as long as the movie type is your interest, how can $10 hurt?
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Old 01-29-2020, 08:53 PM   #3762
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Jpapp25 as long as the movie type is your interest, how can $10 hurt?
Very true.
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Old 01-31-2020, 04:22 PM   #3763
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Is there a 4K player that is region free for Blu-Rays. It’s been a long time coming and I need to go region free, but I would like to also replace/upgrade the 4K player.
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Old 01-31-2020, 04:31 PM   #3764
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Old 02-03-2020, 01:49 AM   #3765
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Perhaps this has been asked before but is it known much more to produce UHD releases are compared to their BD counterparts?

As a user today commented that the likelihood of a new film receiving a UHD disc release appears to be largely dependent on its box office performance, which seems generally accurate.

Is the disc manufacturing cost difference substantial? One would think it might be the HDR mastering costs that would obviously be a factor as well yet various films see digital only UHD releases with HDR so it's unclear.

Then again, given the smaller UHD physical market and the frequent inclusion of separate BD discs in UHD releases I suppose I've just answered the larger question I was asking indirectly. I'd happily buy UHD only disc releases if it could cut costs for studios while allowing less surefire titles a chance in the format.

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Old 02-03-2020, 02:04 AM   #3766
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The glass masters used to replicate the discs cost more for sure, like into five figures, and although I dunno what the specific figures are for mass manufacture of BD vs UHD the latter is still more expensive just for the usage of 33GB layers vs 25GB for BD.

HDR is just part of the workflow now, I see a lot of people citing the expense of HDR grading but if you're getting a top flight colourist to grade your work then you're going to be paying a lot of money no matter what version they're delivering. As you hint at, it's not just being done for disc and it never was done just for disc.

If the studios think they can make money from a 4K disc then they'll do it, but with something like Cats I reckon Universal have canned it - despite it being a mega-bomb like Mortal Engines or Dolittle which have had/will have a 4K release - because they don't think that all us manly men at the height of our manliness will go and buy it.
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Old 02-03-2020, 07:20 AM   #3767
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I agree pretty much with all that, but I also think streaming and digital download also factors into the mix. Cats is obviously being seen as a non-physical product watched for the ironic rental, or HD purchase. People don't need a disc to watch it for those purposes.

A blu-ray is a given in this landscape. But a 4K is just not unless the director or studio itself is a proponent of everything they produce being invested in that way. It's dependent on factors, of course. Type of movie (sentimental and romantic comedies generally don't come to 4K, human drama almost as much of a crapshoot) is one of those -- I reckon "A serious man" if it was made in the 4K era may not have been a lock to make it to the format, whereas No Country for Old Men 100% would be, even maybe if you flipped the box office of those movies -- We can go to the generic facade of that and say gender is a driving force to the home video space... It's hard to deny. I seen no volume of anecdotes from female collectors to suggest it's not true that males dictate the bleeding edge market with the almighty dollar (those lovely ladies just being statistical 'outliers', as they say)

Then there is content from Indies who don't produce big movies to be automatically profitable on the format, in order to shoehorn smaller ones onto it in the wake? That's another factor. Even if the movie is stylized and perfect for the format like Neon Demon (I get theres a disc in the world market but it's not a proper one, nor has HDR)

Which I'm pretty sore doesn't have an HDR release in the main markets. Just to pluck one movie out.
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Old 02-03-2020, 07:31 AM   #3768
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...given the smaller UHD physical market and the frequent inclusion of separate BD discs in UHD releases I suppose I've just answered the larger question I was asking indirectly. I'd happily buy UHD only disc releases if it could cut costs for studios while allowing less surefire titles a chance in the format.
Maybe this was just australia but looking in the past year through my 4-600 blu-rays I still own? I noticed that most catalog titles, like the fodder content like Hard Rain, The Rock, In The Line of Fire, Speed, Pearl Harbor, U-571, and on down the line (I could go for hours).

They were single disc releases in order to be in the 2 for 30$ bins and 2 for 20$. No DVD came with them, no bonus disc even if there was one with a DVD when the movie came out. And I felt jipped at the time but if that helped 4K releases actually come out, to discard the blu-ray and bonuses to make a 20 or 25$ day dot disc profitable for studios to invest in releasing way more type titles as those without risk? I would vote for that immediately...
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Old 02-03-2020, 08:31 AM   #3769
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**nick4Knight** 2 discs are often so that the supplaments are on a separate disc to allow max space for the move. I can believe that a good Box office helps. Wild Rose did badly so a 1080p Blu was hard to come by, many countries just cancelled the Blu and said nothing. I do not believe the cost difference averaged per disc is that much. Most things cost less per 100 the more you have. It is also how much it is thought that people will pay, Like here in England a bottle of milk is cheapest in a supermarket but most expensive in a convenience store
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Old 02-03-2020, 11:56 PM   #3770
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If the studios think they can make money from a 4K disc then they'll do it, but with something like Cats I reckon Universal have canned it - despite it being a mega-bomb like Mortal Engines or Dolittle which have had/will have a 4K release - because they don't think that all us manly men at the height of our manliness will go and buy it.
Yeah, genre really matters I think. Something sci-fi/fantasy or effects heavy is much more likely to still sell on disc than something like Girl in the Spider's Web. Also franchises... discs for TV shows are vanishing faster than movies, but stuff like Doctor Who and Star Trek will come to disc for a long time.
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Old 02-04-2020, 01:57 AM   #3771
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Exactly right, it's about genre and demographics as much as anything. Same reason why Little Women doesn't appear to be getting a US UHD release, Sony clearly don't feel it's something that the US market can support but, as with Girl in de Web, they're going to create a UHD for foreign markets.

And yes, if disc lasts long enough then I will weep tears of joy when the Trek TOS and TNG movies (and probably TOS itself) hit 4K disc. I'm kinda surprised that Par haven't done anything for the TNG movies to coincide with Picard, but maybe they're timing it to go with the home video release of that one?
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Old 02-05-2020, 05:41 PM   #3772
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So... I have a number of disks that advertise multiple sound recordings (Atmos, true hd, etc.) but don't have any menu at the start to select which audio option you'd like to use. How do I know the default setting the film uses?
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Old 02-05-2020, 06:11 PM   #3773
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And yes, if disc lasts long enough then I will weep tears of joy when the Trek TOS and TNG movies (and probably TOS itself) hit 4K disc. I'm kinda surprised that Par haven't done anything for the TNG movies to coincide with Picard, but maybe they're timing it to go with the home video release of that one?
Question the source, but Bill Hunt said a while back Paramount is working on Star Trek 4k remasters but it's taking a "longer time than expected" due to technical issues.
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Old 02-06-2020, 12:29 AM   #3774
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Question the source, but Bill Hunt said a while back Paramount is working on Star Trek 4k remasters but it's taking a "longer time than expected" due to technical issues.
I thought he was talking about TMP: DE specifically? If Paramount can get It's a Wonderful Life spruced up for 4K then there's nothing to fear in those negatives for the Trek movies, particularly the TNG ones as they're so much newerer.
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Old 02-06-2020, 02:34 AM   #3775
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I thought he was talking about TMP: DE specifically?
Yeah but I assume they'd want to do a set, so they'd all wait on that. I was trying to quickly summarize lol.
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Hi all. I was wondering what your significant other thinks of your movie collecting hobby? Is it a point of contention, or perhaps he/she enjoys it as much as you do.
My wife doesnít seem to mind my hobby, but Iím sure in her head the may think this is a waste of money. Personally, I can watch the same movie several times, but I donít think she feels the same way, so often we will just rent something from ITunes, unless there is nothing worth renting, then perhaps we will watch one of my movies. I sometimes wonder why I purchase any at all, as there are movies I own that I havenít seen in years, and have no desire to watch anymore, but I still get a thrill in getting a nice new 4K movie, or a slick new steelbook.
I guess one of the reasons I still purchase is that I want to get the most out of my home theater, and physical media is the way to do that.
Anyhoo, whatís happening at your house?
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Old 02-06-2020, 02:40 AM   #3777
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What spouse?!
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My wife doesn't "get it" but she doesn't complain. As long as I stay within budget she doesn't really care what I buy. I have a "man cave" media room, so the shelves don't bother her. She spends the same amount every month on makeup and shoes and stuff, so in her mind it evens out, which is good.

She'd actually prefer I focus on movies. Whenever I'm in a gaming mood and spend more time on games she gets slightly annoyed because she sees games as "juvenile."
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Old 02-06-2020, 02:43 AM   #3779
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This. But, hypothetically, she would probably be pi**ed I have a kitchen/bedroom. I'm one uping the middle class hipsters of Edinburgh
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Old 02-06-2020, 02:47 AM   #3780
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My son used to work at the local movie theater and still has friends that work there.

The price now for an evening showing is $14.50.
What used to be $5.00 bargain Tuesdays are now $8.00.

The price for a family of 4 to see a movie is at the very least $32 and as much a $58.

Not to mention anything at the concession stand.

I buy a 4k blu ray for an average price of $19.99 or less.

Who's the fool here?

oh... and btw--- take out the kids equation-- cut it in half for a couple. I still stand by my comment.
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