Best 4K Blu-ray Deals


Best Blu-ray Movie Deals, See All the Deals »
Top deals | New deals  
 All countries United States United Kingdom Canada Germany France Spain Italy Australia Japan
Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) 4K (Blu-ray)
$29.99
 
Superman: The Movie 4K (Blu-ray)
$15.99
 
Angel Has Fallen 4K (Blu-ray)
$14.96
 
Unforgiven 4K (Blu-ray)
$15.99
 
A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood 4K (Blu-ray)
$24.99
 
Joker 4K (Blu-ray)
$19.99
 
1917 4K (Blu-ray)
$29.99
 
Rambo: Last Blood 4K (Blu-ray)
$18.54
 
Man of Steel 4K (Blu-ray)
$15.99
 
Star Trek Trilogy 4K (Blu-ray)
$42.91
 
Oceans: Our Blue Planet 4K (Blu-ray)
$9.99
 
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 4K (Blu-ray)
$22.97
 
What's your next favorite movie?
Join our movie community to find out


Image from: Life of Pi (2012)

Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Ultra HD Blu-ray and 4K > Ultra HD Blu-ray and 4K Movies


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-24-2016, 12:44 AM   #41
Opips3 Opips3 is offline
Banned
 
Mar 2015
42
348
2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by batman2000 View Post
i meant to the picture not color timing am i wrong.
Next year, will make new Super UHDTV DCi 97% 12bit colors is 4:4:4 richest and deep colour. So you can wait...on 2017.

UltraHD 4K perimeter spec minimum 10bit and HDR....etc for UHDTV.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 12:46 AM   #42
batman2000 batman2000 is online now
Blu-ray Guru
 
Oct 2006
Default

wait i thought it gave more shades of green,red,blue etc. isn't that good?
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 12:54 AM   #43
Opips3 Opips3 is offline
Banned
 
Mar 2015
42
348
2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by batman2000 View Post
wait i thought it gave more shades of green,red,blue etc.
Yes, DCi 10bit for 4:4:4 with gumat brighter without HDR is 4:2:0 or 4:2:2

I not understand how to work 4:4:4 with HDR.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 12:55 AM   #44
JJ JJ is offline
Blu-ray Count
 
JJ's Avatar
 
Jul 2007
Miami, FL
98
209
795
37
4
18
126
Send a message via AIM to JJ Send a message via Yahoo to JJ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by batman2000 View Post
wait i thought it gave more shades of green,red,blue etc. isn't that good?
I believe that lies within 10/12-bit color and the WCG available...

It is good. If it provides colors that are on the master and previously unseen on home formats.

But who makes the decision to retrofit older movies with HDR?
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 01:00 AM   #45
batman2000 batman2000 is online now
Blu-ray Guru
 
Oct 2006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ View Post
I believe that lies within 10/12-bit color and the WCG available...

It is good. If it provides colors that are on the master and previously unseen on home formats.

But who makes the decision to retrofit older movies with HDR?
what do you mean by this. But who makes the decision to retrofit older movies with HDR?
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 01:04 AM   #46
JJ JJ is offline
Blu-ray Count
 
JJ's Avatar
 
Jul 2007
Miami, FL
98
209
795
37
4
18
126
Send a message via AIM to JJ Send a message via Yahoo to JJ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by batman2000 View Post
what do you mean by this. But who makes the decision to retrofit older movies with HDR?
This, right here, is why a lot of folks here don't like HDR.

In their opinion (and mine, for that matter) - the folks who make the movie are the ones who should decide how it looks - director's intent. The director and the cinematographer (etc) decide how the movie "should look" - the tints, hues, lighting, color temp of the image - in order to convey their film.

HDR changes this, to an extent.

WHO gets to decide the new colors?

If the folks involved in making the movie are involved in making the HDR conversion, I'm all for it.

If they're not...and it's just applied all willy nilly for the heck of it - well, that's the problem.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
Cremildo (07-13-2019)
Old 02-24-2016, 01:04 AM   #47
Opips3 Opips3 is offline
Banned
 
Mar 2015
42
348
2
Default

cause if brighter strong enough to fade colour richest.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 01:08 AM   #48
batman2000 batman2000 is online now
Blu-ray Guru
 
Oct 2006
Default

jj oh ok i understand now. i hope we get director's or the cinematographer's of these classic films. who are still alive to work on transfers with hdr in mind.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 01:10 AM   #49
JJ JJ is offline
Blu-ray Count
 
JJ's Avatar
 
Jul 2007
Miami, FL
98
209
795
37
4
18
126
Send a message via AIM to JJ Send a message via Yahoo to JJ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by batman2000 View Post
jj oh ok i understand now. i hope we get director's or the cinematographer's of these classic films. who are still alive to work on transfers with hdr in mind.
And that falls into what I said above.

For these classic films, where guys are long dead and buried - who decides?

HDR on movies made from here on out is fine with me. It's what to do with those catalog titles that has folks apprehensive.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 01:14 AM   #50
Opips3 Opips3 is offline
Banned
 
Mar 2015
42
348
2
Default

batman2000,

Remember dvdmike dislike HDR. His favour original movie. Maybe are you?
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 01:15 AM   #51
batman2000 batman2000 is online now
Blu-ray Guru
 
Oct 2006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opips3 View Post
batman2000,

Remember dvdmike dislike HDR. His favour original movie. Maybe are you?
what are you saying?
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 01:17 AM   #52
Opips3 Opips3 is offline
Banned
 
Mar 2015
42
348
2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by batman2000 View Post
what are you saying?
Why u asked dvdmike dislike HDR? JJ explained you.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 01:22 AM   #53
Vashetti Vashetti is offline
Special Member
 
Vashetti's Avatar
 
Nov 2010
Wales, United Kingdom
10
64
2
10
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by batman2000 View Post
what are you saying?
Opips native language isn't English
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 01:25 AM   #54
batman2000 batman2000 is online now
Blu-ray Guru
 
Oct 2006
Default

jj can you tell me what opips said on this page.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
JJ (02-24-2016)
Old 02-24-2016, 01:30 AM   #55
Opips3 Opips3 is offline
Banned
 
Mar 2015
42
348
2
Default

for as example

The Mary of Jesus First Lady on picture is original. Dull boring picture...

HDR add brighter colour on the Mary picture is not original. Big FAKe!!
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 02:25 AM   #56
Dubstar Dubstar is online now
Blu-ray Count
 
Dubstar's Avatar
 
Jun 2008
down at Fraggle Rock
1
173
1873
295
4
19
7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opips3 View Post
for as example

The Mary of Jesus First Lady on picture is original. Dull boring picture...

HDR add brighter colour on the Mary picture is not original. Big FAKe!!
... you lost me
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 03:05 AM   #57
uther uther is offline
Blu-ray Guru
 
Sep 2008
1
1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU View Post
It will be interesting to see what they will do with film grain this time around since most ordinary people couldn't handle film grain in ordinary HD.
Just go look at Sony's Dracula at 4K on caps-a-holic. The film grain is much finer then you can get at 1080p. If done right that is what it will look like on UHD. Besides fake film is all over most current productions even current TV shows. Gotham (below 4K digitally shot) has a lot of film grain in the BD and I love it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ View Post
I believe that lies within 10/12-bit color and the WCG available...
It is good. If it provides colors that are on the master and previously unseen on home formats.
But who makes the decision to retrofit older movies with HDR?
I know I will be writing this many times but only productions recorded with the recent HDR cameras will have true HDR. Older films do not have true HDR 'colors' in the original negatives. A wider color space then BD? Yes but not the HDR you see people write about The Martian with it's blowing out brightness that has to be adjusted for each display. That can only be faked with older films which would be a bad idea.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vashetti View Post
Anyone know the maximum res LOTR could theoretically go to? It was filmed on 35mm right?

Though they were 2K masters I believe, so any effects would be upscaled.
Take if for what you will but I knew a guy who worked on LOTR and he told me the rendered elements were done at 4K.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vashetti View Post
There must be select shots in there that have no visual effects, no? I'm not expecting masses of footage, but there has to be some shots they can scan in for a higher res, surely?
The supplements of LOTR show how actors of normal height were through composting made to look a lot shorter or a lot taller which was done a hell of a lot, probably at 2K.

Quote:
Originally Posted by James Freeman View Post
Which is directly related to the OP question... old movies are in 4:3 you know.
Maybe you are being sarcastic but wide screen movies have been around since the beginning and really took off in the 1950s.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
Five Inches (02-24-2016), Opips3 (02-24-2016)
Old 02-24-2016, 03:09 AM   #58
JJ JJ is offline
Blu-ray Count
 
JJ's Avatar
 
Jul 2007
Miami, FL
98
209
795
37
4
18
126
Send a message via AIM to JJ Send a message via Yahoo to JJ
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by uther View Post
I know I will be writing this many times but only productions recorded with the recent HDR cameras will have true HDR. Older films do not have true HDR 'colors' in the original negatives. A wider color space then BD? Yes but not the HDR you see people write about The Martian with it's blowing out brightness that has to be adjusted for each display. That can only be faked with older films which would be a bad idea.
All I needed to know.

In that case, I'd look forward to the older titles using the most out of the WCG and 10/12 bit colors rather than mess around with HDR too much. If the data isn't there, don't add it.

Agreed, re: it being a bad idea.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 03:25 AM   #59
batman2000 batman2000 is online now
Blu-ray Guru
 
Oct 2006
Default

uther when you said A wider color space then BD do you mean we can at least get that on ultra hd blu ray for older films but not hdr
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2016, 03:26 AM   #60
Opips3 Opips3 is offline
Banned
 
Mar 2015
42
348
2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubstar View Post
... you lost me
black hole vacuum me to another an earth. I thought light green mean stop, light red mean go, I was drive and noticed man yell you are fu.king idoit..
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
James Freeman (02-24-2016)
Reply
Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Ultra HD Blu-ray and 4K > Ultra HD Blu-ray and 4K Movies

Tags
35mm, 4 k, 4k hdr, 4k movies, audio, blu ray movies, blue tint, disney, disney 4k, dolby atmos, final, format, problem, studios, uhd, warner archive collection

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:04 PM.