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Old 01-30-2018, 03:48 PM   #41
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I treat my new Warner UHD announcements just like I treated my career, marriage, and offspring: keep those expectations low and just hope for the best.
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Old 01-30-2018, 04:22 PM   #42
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I see that a lot but Goodfellas looked great to me. Super excited for this! Give me a big expensive set with all the goods!
I've only seen the Dolby Vision streaming version of 'Goodfellas' and it looked like projected film, in other words, it impressed me too ... '2001' on UHD if done right, in terms of the transfer, is going to look spectacular
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:56 PM   #43
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:31 PM   #44
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Of course I hope '2001' is a stellar 4k transfer, and with what Warner has to work with you'd think they'd do an outstanding job. But if they don't, there could at least be one silver lining--if they get enough complaints from 4k fans that they dropped the ball they could redouble their efforts to please the public. And what might that mean? If ever any film deserved the best possible 4k transfer it would have to be the 1959 version of 'Ben-Hur', the most expensive movie (adjusting for inflation) ever made.

What I'm hoping for, though, is that Warner heavily advertises '2001' and comes through with a breathtaking transfer. But even then it may not be all sweetness. I'm going to raise some hackles here, but I'll say this anyway. I don't believe that '2001' will be enjoyed to its maximum depth without an OLED TV, especially one of the latest models that has a somewhat higher degree of nit brightness; viewing scenes of space and the moon on an LED TV with pale blacks and bleeding light could only be deeply disappointing. The good news is that OLED models have really plummeted in price while the quality has increased. It is currently possible to buy a 65" LG OLED for $2,400. Even Dave would open the pod bay doors for that.

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Old 01-30-2018, 06:32 PM   #45
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I wonder if this one will get an Atmos track? There aren't a lot of discrete surround effects for this movie, so if it does get immersive audio, I certainly wouldn't expect the height channels to be that active.
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:41 PM   #46
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Don't screw this up Warner!
I've stopped buying Warner Bros 4K discs because they didn't looked that great to me (especially Suicide Squad and Goodfellas, ugh!) and in some cases looks more washed-out than their regular Blu-ray releases.
This release will give me one more chance with Warner on 4K Blu-ray.
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Unlike Warner's UHD of Goodfellas, which was out-sourced, the 4K master of Unforgiven was entirely prepared by Warner's Motion Picture Imaging facility, which has been responsible for all the important catalog restorations released by the studio and has become the "go to" post house for the Warner Archive Collection.
So no reason they should, or would, "screw this up," because it isn't being outsourced.
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:47 PM   #47
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Goodfellas wasn't even "screwed up" anyway, I don't know what people were expecting from it. That it may look like toilet on certain TVs is - stop me if you've heard this one - much more on that TV and how it handles HDR than it is on the UHD mastering itself.
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Goodfellas wasn't even "screwed up" anyway, I don't know what people were expecting from it. That it may look like toilet on certain TVs is - stop me if you've heard this one - much more on that TV and how it handles HDR than it is on the UHD mastering itself.
What do you make of this review on Blu-ray.com? I don't own a copy of this disc (largely because of this review), but the site gave it a 1.0 score for the 4K Video Quality:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/GoodF...161258/#Review
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Old 01-30-2018, 07:27 PM   #49
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Considering Warner are destroying all other companies with their remasters when it comes to consistency and accuracy, who else would be able to do a better job?

Smaller labels don't tend to release UHDs and more importantly they don't tend to own reference prints and detailed technical notes so the chances of misframing and incorrect color timing are higher.
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Old 01-30-2018, 07:29 PM   #50
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What do you make of this review on Blu-ray.com? I don't own a copy of this disc (largely because of this review), but the site gave it a 1.0 score for the 4K Video Quality:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/GoodF...161258/#Review
I've made my distaste for all pro reviews quite clear. I believe them as far as I could throw them. I've seen the disc with my own eyes and I like it quite a bit. Good tone mapping is the key to this one.
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Sort of a blind buy for me...tried watching it and was boring as shit. Will give it another go on UHD.
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Considering Warner are destroying all other companies with their remasters when it comes to consistency and accuracy, who else would be able to do a better job?
Sony.
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Sony and Paramount have both put out better catalog releases than Warner.

Also, there was nothing wrong with the way Goodfellas’ UHD looked.
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Really looking forward to seeing this on the big screen as the Blu-ray is so very lacking in the PQ department (yet some still praise it).
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Warner has done a fine job overall, but they dropped the ball on Batman Begins and something just a little funky on Blade Runner didn't need to be there either.
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Sony and Paramount have both put out better catalog releases than Warner.

Also, there was nothing wrong with the way Goodfellas’ UHD looked.
Well, we haven't seen Par handle a deep-catalogue film-finished title on UHD yet as opposed to a reworking of a modern DI so the jury's still out on that front. Even Universal have done an honest-to-goodness new transfer for something like Mummy '99 so they're ahead of Par on that front. The rumoured release for Grease will be their first dip into old-school photochemically-finished waters on UHD (Interstellar's US UHD was mastered by Warners in all likelihood) so let's see how that goes, whilst Warners' MPI have been putting out superb transfers for their Warner Archive collection on BD so those guys know their shit. That the Nolan UHDs turned out as they did is as much on Nolan as it is on Warners.

No argument whatsoever with Sony though, Groundhog Day is yet another example of their 4K mastery.
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Warner has done a fine job overall, but they dropped the ball on Batman Begins and something just a little funky on Blade Runner didn't need to be there either.
Depesite what some people have said, Batman Begins 4K is a new scan, but the way Nolan movies get photochemically finished kills a lot of detail in the film master.
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Depesite what some people have said, Batman Begins 4K is a new scan, but the way Nolan movies get photochemically finished kills a lot of detail.
It's not that that's the reason why people keep mentioning Begins, it's the extraordinarily heavy-handed DNR in certain scenes and shots.
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I've only seen the Dolby Vision streaming version of 'Goodfellas' and it looked like projected film, in other words, it impressed me too ... '2001' on UHD if done right, in terms of the transfer, is going to look spectacular
I grew more fond of the Goodfellas disc the more time went on.
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