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Old 03-14-2018, 01:09 AM   #41
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This might be the only instance I wait on buying a single release to wait for a box set. Considering there's only 6 episodes left in the series, I'll wait for the whole set release in 4k, assuming we get one (still waiting for that 24 complete blu ray set). Now I'm praying for a breaking bad release in 4k. That's sony, so hot damn, it would be gorgeous.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:14 AM   #42
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Really was hoping for a box set containing all eight seasons hand-in-hand with the finale of Season Eight. I wonder if the 4k/HDR versions will be available to HBO subscribers as they are now, online or app, and if 1080p digital owners will be upgraded for free?
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:18 AM   #43
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It is going to take a LONG time to regrade all 8 seasons in hdr. It is not a quick process. A 2-3 hour movie usually takes 1-3 weeks to grade in hdr depending on how many days/hours you work on it. So do the math and figure out how long an entire season will take. The times that by 8. Also keep in mind those people have other projects and jobs going on.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:29 AM   #44
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It is going to take a LONG time to regrade all 8 seasons in hdr. It is not a quick process. A 2-3 hour movie usually takes 1-3 weeks to grade in hdr depending on how many days/hours you work on it. So do the math and figure out how long an entire season will take. The times that by 8. Also keep in mind those people have other projects and jobs going on.
They've probably been working on that for months, if not over a year already. With all the money the show makes, I'm guessing it's HBO's top priority, so I would guess they probably have 2-3 seasons already done, possibly not including the seventh season. That would mean they could have finished more than half of the show already, and obviously, the eighth season will be available day-and-date on UHD BD, likely in late 2019.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:36 AM   #45
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Penton relayed a hint that they were going to grade this in HDR nearly two years ago:
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and that there were hints from a VP at HBO that the next milestone tech (beyond that of Dolby Atmos currently) for Game of Thrones would probably be HDR.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:39 AM   #46
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You don't? There have been some stinkers for sure, but on the 150 or so discs I've viewed so far the HDR grading has usually lent much more warmth, depth and nuance to most DI shows as opposed to the harsher, clipped, more clinical look of the 709 trim pass. A proper photochemical finish will look fine in SDR or HDR but there's something about a DI that often makes it look so flat and dead in SDR.
I don't think the initial conditions are great, seems like there's a big risk for quick and dirty conversions (to clarify I only meant catalog titles.)

With a photochemical finish it's easier, if it's a new scan you'll have to start from scratch, the grade should be relatively simple in order to be faithful (so even if you didn't have to, starting over might be feasible), and there's rarely a definite reference for how the film should look in the digital realm that you need to conform 100% to. Plus if you're paying for a new scan it's more likely you'll want the grade done properly as well. I believe this simplicity and freedom has the potential to yield better results.

With existing DIs it's largely the opposite. Modern grades can be incredibly complex and detailed with hundreds upon hundreds of masks, keys, tracks and very often there's a lot of look stuff like vignetting and degraining and regraining and sharpening involved.

So the question then becomes are you going to spend the time and money to re-do all that stuff from the raw files, or just try to re-tool the existing grading project for HDR, maybe try to extend the highlights a bit here and there like some SDR->HDR TV mode and then call it a day? Plus even if you wanted to redo it, you have it right there on black and white how it "should" look, so I can imagine that might also be a limiting factor.
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:43 AM   #47
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I'm so glad I never bought the Blu-ray discs of these. This series on UHD has been one of my biggest wishlist items. I didn't think it would ever happen.
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:12 AM   #48
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I'm so glad I never bought the Blu-ray discs of these. This series on UHD has been one of my biggest wishlist items. I didn't think it would ever happen.
The biggest TV franchise ever? Pff. Who needs all that money?
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:17 AM   #49
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And a screaming fan-base if they don't.
Yes very true.
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:35 AM   #50
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Hope they don't forget to include the Atmos mix from the Steelbook, also if I'm not mistaken Season 1 was shot digitally at 2k, hopefully the HDR will be phenomenal.
The Atmos re-mixes are a given. They also started adding Atmos on the regular sets outside of the steel book editions. Too bad they can't dig into the archives again and try a do-over on the first two seasons' Atmos tracks. They couldn't find the separate elements because of poor archiving and the mixers couldn't make very good Atmos tracks for those seasons because of that.

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Old 03-14-2018, 02:47 AM   #51
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I love the show, but I just can't afford this or want to upgrade ONE MORE TIME
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:55 AM   #52
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Now this is amazing news. Hopefully we get the whole series in 4k, I would replace my all my blus in a heartbeat. I've already seen the first season 3 times but it would be worth another watch in 4k.
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Old 03-14-2018, 06:20 AM   #53
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I have the feeling WB wont do this transfer justice.
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I have the feeling WB wont do this transfer justice.
What would lead you to say that?
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Old 03-14-2018, 01:42 PM   #55
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I have the feeling WB wont do this transfer justice.
Ooooh gawwwwwwd....

Theres always one at every party..lmao
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:21 PM   #56
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Don't judge GoT in 4K from just this Season 1 set.

Season 1 was filmed in 1080p because of the camera they used. Everything was upgraded for Season 2 onwards, so the sets after this one will look better.
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:21 PM   #57
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I always thought Game of Thrones was shot on film. Huh.
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Old 03-14-2018, 02:31 PM   #58
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Definitely not a blind buy for me, will wait and see how much of an improvement the UHD will have over the BD.
Love ths show btw!
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Old 03-14-2018, 03:03 PM   #59
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I always thought Game of Thrones was shot on film. Huh.
For Season 1 they recorded to HDCAM-SR, so that's forever locked to 1080p.
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Old 03-14-2018, 03:06 PM   #60
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For Season 1 they recorded to HDCAM-SR, so that's forever locked to 1080p.
Still not bad news; Cloverfield looks great with the HDR pass and 4x chroma.
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