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Old 11-03-2019, 01:58 AM   #41
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Doesn't the Scream disc have the mono mix?
The Scream disc of THE FOG does indeed have the original mono, as has been confirmed already... but it has the dubious honor of being one of the only original tracks I choose NOT to use, even though I'm a bit obsessive about my original audio. THE FOG mono is just a mess... crackly and varying wildly in volume. I take a deep OCD breath and choose the mercifully inoffensive 5.1 track whenever I watch it.
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Old 11-03-2019, 05:19 AM   #42
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Really. Sorry dude but in my case I'm probably buying a Catalog release in another format again and with what dolby Atmos and DTS X can do I would rather see what those formats could offer me in a new experience with my favourite movies.
I do own plenty of uhd movies with just the original audio and with some of those films I do think about what would it be like remastered in those new audio formats.
Other wise I feel I'm just buying the same thing again.
I brought the original 4 Batman movies many times over and Batman 89 is my favourite movie ever and I really don't have a problem with the Atmos mix. It is still the same film but it gave me a new thrilling experience with the film.
I already have the original BD with the original 5 1 audio with that transfer and I've worn the @#$& out of it but now with the new uhd with its new transfer and new audio it like a new coat of paint and I love it. I can still revisit the original BD with that audio anytime but after the Atmos mix I probably highly likely won't go back....but I can if I feel the need too.

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Old 11-03-2019, 11:34 AM   #43
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The Scream disc of THE FOG does indeed have the original mono, as has been confirmed already... but it has the dubious honor of being one of the only original tracks I choose NOT to use, even though I'm a bit obsessive about my original audio. THE FOG mono is just a mess... crackly and varying wildly in volume. I take a deep OCD breath and choose the mercifully inoffensive 5.1 track whenever I watch it.
In all honesty that's why I'm not bent out of shape about the Fog's UHD having no OG mix, not so much because the old mono is tragibad but because the remix is so inoffensive, it's using the original music and effects and steering them around rather than adding in loads of new effects for the sake of it. (Though I prefer the Arrow 5.1 mix for Day of the Dead for the former reason, the mono is so sibilant it's a distraction and thankfully they corrected the worst of the overdubs that previously affected the 5.1 on that show.)

The audio on SC's Fog UHD has its own problems, that of being pitched up and having a slightly warbly effect on the 5.1, but the 2.0 downmix doesn't have the warbling and as someone who lives in PAL land then I'm used to pitched up audio. Not ideal, but I'll take it.
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Old 11-03-2019, 03:20 PM   #44
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Yeah the pitch is a tiny bit higher on The Fog UHD. Not by much but if you know the film well than it's definitely noticeable.
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Old 11-03-2019, 03:54 PM   #45
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This is what the IMDb says:

"CDS (digital 35 mm prints) | Dolby Stereo (analog 35 mm prints) (4 channels) | DTS (5.1)"

They don't specify the number of channels for the CDS mix. I just assumed that because the Dolby Stereo was 4.0 the CDS would be too. Probably a wrong assumption.

The end credits, however, don't even mention CDS, only Dolby Stereo SR. Was this ever shown with digital sound?

The DTS mix was obviously after the fact and really shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath.
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What about recent catalogs that have Atmos mixes that were the original audio in theaters? And they weren't Atmos on standard Blu-ray disc? Atmos has been around since 2012 but took a couple years to come home.

Star Trek Into Darkness
Frozen
Zootopia
Big Hero 6
Pacific Rim
Brave
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Ant-Man
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Captain America: Civil War
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Doctor Strange
Cinderella
Maleficent
Ender's Game
Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Finding Dory
The Good Dinosaur
Guardians of the Galaxy
Inside Out
Lucy
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Moana
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What about recent catalogs that have Atmos mixes that were the original audio in theaters? And they weren't Atmos on standard Blu-ray disc? Atmos has been around since 2012 but took a couple years to come home.

Star Trek Into Darkness
Frozen
Zootopia
Big Hero 6
Pacific Rim
Brave
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Ant-Man
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Captain America: Civil War
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Doctor Strange
Cinderella
Maleficent
Ender's Game
Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Finding Dory
The Good Dinosaur
Guardians of the Galaxy
Inside Out
Lucy
Man of Steel
Moana
Oblivion
Oh good Dolby PR is here to stretch the term of catalogue, also very few of those are the original mixes especially the Disney ones #atmouse
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Old 11-04-2019, 04:43 PM   #48
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What about recent catalogs that have Atmos mixes that were the original audio in theaters? And they weren't Atmos on standard Blu-ray disc? Atmos has been around since 2012 but took a couple years to come home.

[Show spoiler]Star Trek Into Darkness
Frozen
Zootopia
Big Hero 6
Pacific Rim
Brave
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Ant-Man
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Captain America: Civil War
Iron Man 3
Thor: The Dark World
Doctor Strange
Cinderella
Maleficent
Ender's Game
Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Finding Dory
The Good Dinosaur
Guardians of the Galaxy
Inside Out
Lucy
Man of Steel
Moana
Oblivion
Is there any way to differentiate the titles within the above list from original audio and completely new remix?
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Old 11-04-2019, 04:52 PM   #49
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Is there any way to differentiate the titles within the above list from original audio and completely new remix?
As I understand it, all the Disney ones are "fixed print-outs" that literally just have 7.1.4 channels rather than the 64 or 128 'objects' (I forget the exact numbers, someone more clued up than me can nail those numbers down) that the original Atmos mix can contain.
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As I understand it, all the Disney ones are "fixed print-outs" that literally just have 7.1.4 channels rather than the 64 or 128 'objects' (I forget the exact numbers, someone more clued up than me can nail those numbers down) that the original Atmos mix can contain.
So, the non-Disney titles from Peter's list should be on my list then?
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That's a reasonable assumption, yes. But I'd wait for more knowledgable folks like Peter or the Freakosaurus to chime in.
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Old 11-04-2019, 07:53 PM   #52
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So, the non-Disney titles from Peter's list should be on my list then?
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That's a reasonable assumption, yes. But I'd wait for more knowledgable folks like Peter or the Freakosaurus to chime in.
Correct - however a few Disney titles apparently are "unrestrained" and are the full free object versions. I don't have the equipment at home to verify though.
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Correct - however a few Disney titles apparently are "unrestrained" and are the full free object versions. I don't have the equipment at home to verify though.
I'll start with the non-Disney titles from your list. If we got confirmation on any of the Disney titles I will add at that time.
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Old 11-05-2019, 12:34 AM   #54
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Superman audio on all formats before uhd was very lackluster and boring apart from the Williams score. Love the movie.
On uhd the Atmos absolutely blew me away. I've always brought Superman the movie on every new format. Love Superman but the audio never really pulled me in but Atmos just pulls me right in and never lets me go til the finished credits.
I will never go back to the 5.1 audio or hahahaha the 2.0 or anything less then Atmos.
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Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe CLOSE ENCOUNTERS and E.T. contain their original audio. I'd LOVE it if they did, but I'm not seein' it. Do we have confirmation of those; certainly not listed for either title on this site.
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Unless I'm missing something, I don't believe CLOSE ENCOUNTERS and E.T. contain their original audio. I'd LOVE it if they did, but I'm not seein' it. Do we have confirmation of those; certainly not listed for either title on this site.
Hopefully one of the audio experts will chime in on these.
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:00 PM   #57
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This thread shows why the 4K format to a large extent, has been a complete letdown.

Doesn't the import Texas Chainsaw Massacre contain the original audio O.P.?
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Hopefully one of the audio experts will chime in on these.
Close Encounters is a slight remix from 4.2 (70MM) to 5.1
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Don't all of Chris Nolan's films have the original audio tracks from theaters. Says it on the back of the box of his film collection.
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Close Encounters is a slight remix from 4.2 (70MM) to 5.1
Is the 5.1 on the UHD different than the 5.1 on the original Close Encounters BD? I thought they were identical.

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