Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

The U.K. doesn't have the energy restrictions. The only LED wall on that list that will be affected is the one in Germany.

nothing installed will be affected. The law only affects stuff on the store shelves in March of next year.

the law only affects the SDR mode out of the box people will still be able (assuming a manufacturer gives them that option to turn up the brightness and use more electricity. People will still be able to have more than one TV in their home and if all those TVS are used separately or as a video wall that is up to them.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Regarding point one, some high end 4K sets don’t pass and they are the ones that tend to be the best quality.

Same will apply with LED walls, don’t forget no Micro-LED will pass the new restrictions. It’s expected that future Micro-LEDs will be the preferred choice for huge LED walls due to their clarity and brightness.

here is the law
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...9R2021&from=EN

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

the EU regulation is real. The interpretation that it means the end of 8k is not. A big fuss has happened here but can you show me one TV manufacturer that agrees that it means the death of 8k in Europe.

If they can’t get past the regulations, it’s effectively the death of 8K in Europe, or at least a suspension while a solution can be worked on.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

here is the law
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...9R2021&from=EN

Thanks, but the new restrictions were proposed two month ago, maybe some updates to the rules you linked have been applied?

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

here is the law
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-cont...9R2021&from=EN

It looks like the whole thing was blown way out of proportion by Steedeel (which isn't surprising).

In Europe TVs will just have to default to an energy efficient mode and display a warning message if users switch settings. Since default settings are always crap anyway the new regulations won't make anything worse.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

It looks like the whole thing was blown way out of proportion by Steedeel (which isn't surprising).

In Europe TVs will just have to default to an energy efficient mode and display a warning message if users switch settings. Since default settings are always crap anyway the new regulations won't make anything worse.

not just steed. This whole placer has gone up in FUD

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

how things are shipped should not be that important. If TV manufacturer X puts a bunch of TVs in a container and ships them to big warehouse in France and then some are shipped to UK if those TVs are 8k or 4k or HD it should not make a difference from a shipping point of view. If the TVs used an iklligal substance (like mercury ...) that would be a different story. In this case it is just that they are not allowed to be sold in Europe if they need to much electricity isn SDR mode

Yes, good point. I agree.

Curiosity got the better of me so I've done a little bit of reading on this, and a number of websites mention Felixstowe and Southampton as ports which take in shipments directly from China (and presumably other nations too, but China is the country that's mentioned here). There are also other ports in England further north which also receive shipping but I think these tend to handle smaller cargo. Once they arrive, they'll then wait for UK customs to check them out before distribution.

Now that the UK has left the EU, I suspect that UK ports will now handle more traffic from the rest of the world.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Thanks, but the new restrictions were proposed two month ago, maybe some updates to the rules you linked have been applied?

it is in there check anex II


1 March 2023 EEImax for HD and UHD goes from 1.1 to 0.9 and EEImax for 8k goes from NA to 0.9

that is how laws work.



for my US and anglo-Canadians Europe uses "," for decimals (instead of ".") and space for thousands (instead of ",") so what will look to us as 1,234.5 will be 1 234,5

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

it is in there check anex II


1 March 2023 EEImax for HD and UHD goes from 1.1 to 0.9 and EEImax for 8k goes from NA to 0.9

that is how laws work.



for my US and anglo-Canadians Europe uses "," for decimals (instead of ".") and space for thousands (instead of ",") so what will look to us as 1,234.5 will be 1 234,5

Thanks, good to know.

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I have a huge tool but I’m not one!

Listen mate, it's the quality that matters, not the quantity.

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have been buying each season for both me and a friend.

It's his birthday today, but he will have to wait until Thursday to get his birthday present of season 4. I am treating him to pizza today as kind of a birthday gift appetizer until it arrives.

Personally, I can't say if the seasons are any good or not, but my friend and his wife really enjoy them.

I just ordered the three disc set from Amazon for $80. I will grab the fourth down the road. I do love me some sci-fi.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by gotmule

I just ordered the three disc set from Amazon for $80. I will grab the fourth down the road. I do love me some sci-fi.

I already had season 1 of Discovery on BD, which is why I didn't buy that 1-3 set.


The UK set of the same 1-3 seasons is also almost $20 cheaper over the domestic set and it's region free. I own most of the ST tv series on BD UK imports, because years ago when I bought them they were absurdly cheap via Amazon UK.


https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Dis...711&amp&sr=1-5

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by CV19

Listen mate, it's the quality that matters, not the quantity.

This is true!

[unberechenbar]

bought these this week:


The last one is the most expensive disc I've bought so far and a blind buy, so I hope it's worth it. I also watched my first Bollywood movie (An Action Theater) in a theater today. It was average but with the dearth of new releases I think I will seek out more foreign cinema.

[Lee A Stewart]

Disney Saw 19% Decline in Fiscal Year 2022 Home Entertainment Revenue

The Walt Disney Company generated $820 million selling digital and physical movies for the fiscal year 2022, ended Oct. 1. The home entertainment revenue was down 19% from revenue of more than $1 billion in the previous-year period, according to a regulatory filing.

The decrease in home entertainment revenue was due to lower unit sales despite the benefit of more new release titles in the current fiscal year than in the prior pandemic-impacted year. Net effective pricing was comparable to the prior year as lower unit pricing was offset by a higher mix of new release titles, which have a higher sales price than catalog titles.

Top-selling retail releases in the year were Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and animated musical Encanto.

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/disney...nment-revenue/

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Disney Saw 19% Decline in Fiscal Year 2022 Home Entertainment Revenue



https://www.mediaplaynews.com/disney...nment-revenue/

It would help if they didn’t keep big titles like Prey back from disc release.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It would help if they didn’t keep big titles like Prey back from disc release.

I'm sure all the Marvel and Star Wars Disney+ shows would also sell well if they were released on disc.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

I'm sure all the Marvel and Star Wars Disney+ shows would also sell well if they were released on disc.

That would be a one time deal. Leaving them on Disney+ = Evergreen Deal

[Lee A Stewart]

https://www.displaydaily.com/article...viewing-public

[Wendell R. Breland]

Map data % must be a country's households vs subs. For anyone that has been very far into Canada above the the US border will realize they run out of paved roads pretty soon. We travel a lot of state highways and county roads in the US and there is a lot of people out there with no cell service, some apparently without phone service (no phone line on power line poles).

I bet most subs are grouped around city centers and metro areas in the US and Canada.