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Old 12-11-2022, 03:22 PM   #39781
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Speaking of gaming .....

I have a PS5 under the tree and I'm debating if it should be used with the home theater or with my VGTV (Video Game TV).

I'm thinking I will use the PS5 with my projector as my VGTV is a $100 Black Friday LG 1080p LCD. I mean,... it looks amazing but I don't think it delivers on anything PS5 brings to the table.

Maybe next Black Friday I'll update the VGTV. Gaming to me is more comfortable in the living room than the theater but I guess I'll find out.

What's more likely is I'll get PSVR 2 and that's it ... I'll never be seen again. ha ha ha.



Last night I watched The Last Picture Show which is something I never heard of (was from a box set.) It was a good blind buy.
Iím the same, itís (HT) my happy place for films, but prefer the tv for gaming.

PS5 games mostly look amazing, I will pick up the PSVR2, just waiting to see what titles are announced.
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Old 12-11-2022, 03:43 PM   #39782
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I don't know about you but I pay a flat rate for my ISP. If I use it for 10 miutes or 200 hours, the rate doesn't change. You need that ISP to get on line so the time fractions mean absolutely nothing.
you were the one that said we need to factor into the price of physical media the internet connection if we buy on-line. Even if the costs are fixed they need to be divided by usage.

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Nope - those fancy disc storage towers thay sell at Amazon - that has to be included if you bought them. Home built - not really.
I don't know what fancy storage towers you are talking about but does it matter? don't get me wrong obviously one solution might be more expensive than an other but either way they most likely don't add up to much. Someone (like I did around 15 years ago wheree I got rid of my old cheap white melamine book cases with custom pine cases) can decide to get rid of the old and replace them eventually but at the end of the day, it is not a monthly cost and they are not perishable.
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Old 12-11-2022, 04:33 PM   #39783
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I remember from my real early days of TV & appliance retail sales the words of most purchasers, ďhow much a monthĒ. According to some kin in various businesses, that is still one of the most used phrases.

Our concern has been and is, the total cost of anything. Really wonder if most know the total cost of that new SUV or that patio home. For many years have offered to purchase financial software (like Intuit Quicken) for kin and some close friends so they could keep up with their finances but not a single one accepted.

Did not keep up with open reel tape and vinyl but I do know my cost of CDís, LD, DVDís, D-Theater tapes and Blu-ray disc. Based on the cost some of my kin has spent on boats and airplanes our home entertainment is a bargain.
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Old 12-11-2022, 05:49 PM   #39784
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I don't know what fancy storage towers you are talking about but does it matter? don't get me wrong obviously one solution might be more expensive than an other but either way they most likely don't add up to much. Someone (like I did around 15 years ago wheree I got rid of my old cheap white melamine book cases with custom pine cases) can decide to get rid of the old and replace them eventually but at the end of the day, it is not a monthly cost and they are not perishable.
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Gaming is another big reason. The wait for game downloads can be tedious unless you have fibre.
Which is why you should also factor in the cost of your internet service into your gaming expenses as well. Those of us who play all of our video games on disc don't need fast (and expensive) internet service.
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Old 12-11-2022, 07:47 PM   #39786
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My living room has too many big windows, making it near impossible to find more space for my movies without bothering my brother and sort of taking over the space. I'd really like to throw out the sofa we never use. Would provide plenty of room. Space considerations are why I always say movies should have been packaged in CD jewel cases from the start. It's stupid, absolutely stupid, to still use these oversized, thick, tall Blu-ray cases when everybody is dropping physical media (with having less junk often being cited as one of the reasons) and housing prices keep going up. A square cover can look splendid and the jewel case can be pretty sturdy depending on the material used. They also don't have that problem of the insert sliding out of the top or bottom like in BD and DVD cases.
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Old 12-11-2022, 09:00 PM   #39787
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Which is why you should also factor in the cost of your internet service into your gaming expenses as well. Those of us who play all of our video games on disc don't need fast (and expensive) internet service.
Of course we do, updates are huge and frequent these days.
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Old 12-11-2022, 09:35 PM   #39788
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I’m the same, it’s (HT) my happy place for films, but prefer the tv for gaming.
I am probably going to prefer the TV or even a monitor but I'll give the PS5 a try with the theater. I understand some games have a scope aspect ratio option. I think it's cool that surround sound is pretty much standard as well. Tomb Raider and other games I like are very cinematic.

One reason I prefer to game on a smaller screen it I can see the entire picture without looking any particular direction.

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Old 12-11-2022, 09:40 PM   #39789
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Of course we do, updates are huge and frequent these days.
But rarely required. I've played hundreds of games on PS4 and dozens of games on PS5 without ever downloading a single patch.
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Old 12-11-2022, 09:46 PM   #39790
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But rarely required. I've played hundreds of games on PS4 and dozens of games on PS5 without ever downloading a single patch.
I take it you donít play COD or FIFA? I play single player 60% of the time but I love a good multiplayer session also.
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I am probably going to prefer the TV or even a monitor but I'll give the PS5 a try with the theater. I understand some games have a scope aspect ratio option. I think it's cool that surround sound is pretty much standard as well. Tomb Raider and other games I like are very cinematic.

One reason I prefer to game on a smaller screen it I can see the entire picture without looking any particular direction.
The thing that surprised me most was the dual sense controller. It really does enhance the games. Itís hard going back to regular controllers on the PS4.
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Old 12-11-2022, 09:50 PM   #39792
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I take it you don’t play COD or FIFA? I play single player 60% of the time but I love a good multiplayer session also.
A fast internet connection is needed for online multiplayer gaming whether or not you need to download anything. Your original comment just mentioned downloads:

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Gaming is another big reason. The wait for game downloads can be tedious unless you have fibre.
If you stream movies or TV shows, download games, or play multiplayer games the price of a fast internet connection should be factored in. People who only play and watch things on physical media have no need for a fast internet connection.
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A fast internet connection is needed for multiplayer gaming whether or not you need to download anything. Your original comment just mentioned downloads:



If you stream movies or TV shows, download games, or play multiplayer games the price of a fast internet connection should be factored in. People who only play and watch things on physical media have no need for a fast internet connection.
A fast internet connection is NOT required for multiplayer games. 3-4 Mbps is sufficient.
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A fast internet connection is NOT required for multiplayer games. 3-4 Mbps is sufficient.
So you have a fast internet connection just to make downloading games more convenient? That sounds like you're getting into alchav territory.
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Old 12-11-2022, 09:59 PM   #39795
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So you have a fast internet connection just to make downloading games more convenient? That sounds like you're getting into alchav territory.
No, I have a fast connection for multiple reasons.

But faster game downloads are a huge bonus.
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Old 12-11-2022, 10:48 PM   #39796
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A fast internet connection is NOT required for multiplayer games. 3-4 Mbps is sufficient.
I have found speeds that low to be inadequate. I play online with a couple of friends with very slow internet (9-12 Mbps) and I am always waiting for them to "catch up."

Some articles recommend at least 20 Mbps for gaming. A low ping is probably the most important thing.
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With 7 days left on my monthly billing cycle, I have used only 6% of my monthly data cap of 6 TB; data caps are standard practice in areas like mine where the lone ISP has a monopoly.

I probably have more internet oomph than I need by far.
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Old 12-11-2022, 11:01 PM   #39798
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I have found speeds that low to be inadequate. I play online with a couple of friends with very slow internet (9-12 Mbps) and I am always waiting for them to "catch up."

Some articles recommend at least 20 Mbps for gaming. A low ping is probably the most important thing.
Shouldnít be the case. Itís almost certainly a poor to average ping like you say.
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Shouldnít be the case. Itís almost certainly a poor to average ping like you say.
They're both tightwads. Their crappy cheapskate plans probably have terrible ping times to compliment their glacial speeds.
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They're both tightwads. Their crappy cheapskate plans probably have terrible ping times to compliment their glacial speeds.
More than likely.
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