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Old 01-26-2023, 01:34 PM   #40441
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I have Disney+
I have purchased movies on iTunes
I have physical media.

Which of these do you think will last the longest ?

I used to think online movie services were a threat to physical media but subscription seems to be the significantly bigger fish and in my mind it's more of a threat to my cloud service collection (iTunes)

Online movie lockers are so irrelevant with the rise of subscription services. Most of my iTunes movies are available on a subscription service now and if they discontinued them it wouldn't really matter. iTunes still sells music too even though most people prefer a music subscription lately.

Only one of my kids is interested in inheriting the physical media collection and the iTunes movies have no survivorship benefits. My answer to this question would be I believe D+ will last longest because people pay for it by the minute and that's a very good business model.
True HT enthusiasts will continue with disc. Whether thatís 5 more years or 15 more years, Iím there to the end.

This is my third decade of collecting films on disc, it been glorious, it will continue to be imo.
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Old 01-26-2023, 01:36 PM   #40442
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Meanwhile, studios are starting to admit that there doesnít seem to be much profit in streaming.
Netflix made a statement recently they were the only ones making a profit from streaming and that profit was only in the millions. They did much better profit wise with disc when they really pushed disc rental. Meanwhile:
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I wouldnít be so keen to celebrate the demise of disc rentals if I were you.
alchav21 is nothing more than a, ďif I canít have it then I donít want you to have it eitherĒ. Trolls like him has been around since the days of CompuServe and private BBS's.
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Old 01-26-2023, 01:44 PM   #40443
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Netflix made a statement recently they were the only ones making a profit from streaming and that profit was only in the millions. They did much better profit wise with disc when they really pushed disc rental. Meanwhile:
alchav21 is nothing more than a, ďif I canít have it then I donít want you to have it eitherĒ. Trolls like him has been around since the days of CompuServe and private BBS's.
I would be amazed if Paramount and Peacock arenít swallowed up by one of the big 4 in the next year or two.
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Old 01-26-2023, 03:05 PM   #40444
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I would be amazed if Paramount and Peacock arenít swallowed up by one of the big 4 in the next year or two.
Don't quit your day job. You'll starve as a prognosticator.

There will be no swallowing. Peacock is part of NBC Universal. They are a big enough company to buy Paramount Global. That's the only way it would happen.

All they would do is go back to the business plan they used to have: license out their content to other streaming services.
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Old 01-26-2023, 03:23 PM   #40445
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Don't quit your day job. You'll starve as a prognosticator.

There will be no swallowing. Peacock is part of NBC Universal. They are a big enough company to buy Paramount Global. That's the only way it would happen.

All they would do is go back to the business plan they used to have: license out their content to other streaming services.
Hark at the guy who keeps telling us cinemas will die and Disney+ will turn a profit next, next, next year (or by 2040 maybe)
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Old 01-26-2023, 03:56 PM   #40446
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Hark at the guy who keeps telling us cinemas will die and Disney+ will turn a profit next, next, next year (or by 2040 maybe)
You are not paying attention again Steedeel.

I dare you . . .I double dare you . . . to find a post made by me that states "Cinemas will die."

I have ALWAYS as in never waivered, said that ACCORDING to Disney on their Disney Plus Day 2020, Disney+ will be profitable BY EOY 2024.

So please - take your hatred and bullshit and peddle it some place else.
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Old 01-26-2023, 04:14 PM   #40447
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You are not paying attention again Steedeel.

I dare you . . .I double dare you . . . to find a post made by me that states "Cinemas will die."

I have ALWAYS as in never waivered, said that ACCORDING to Disney on their Disney Plus Day 2020, Disney+ will be profitable BY EOY 2024.

So please - take your hatred and bullshit and peddle it some place else.
Disney WOULD say that.

You used that statement to back up your argument about the wellbeing (or otherwise) of Disney+ On a few occasions, so it’s only natural people are going to question that down the line.

By the way, don’t get so triggered. It’s only a discussion between two people with very opposing views.

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Old 01-26-2023, 04:31 PM   #40448
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Disney WOULD say that.

You used that statement to back up your argument about the well being (or otherwise) of Disney+ On a few occasions, so itís only natural people are going to question that down the line.
Here is one of the charts Disney presented on Disney Investor Day 2020:



Are we at the end of 2024 yet?

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STOP MAKING IT PERSONAL!
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Old 01-26-2023, 04:33 PM   #40449
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I'm tired of these companies all starting their own services. I see now MGM is making one called MGM+. I thought all their properties were already on Amazon Prime? Peecock doesn't have jack crap on it. Netflix is getting to be the same way. Disney+ has the best content imo. HBO Max I had to cancel as the audio quality was atrocious. I wish we could just go back to the days where everything was on Netflix.
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Old 01-26-2023, 04:58 PM   #40450
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I'm tired of these companies all starting their own services. I see now MGM is making one called MGM+. I thought all their properties were already on Amazon Prime? Peecock doesn't have jack crap on it. Netflix is getting to be the same way. Disney+ has the best content imo. HBO Max I had to cancel as the audio quality was atrocious. I wish we could just go back to the days where everything was on Netflix.
Amazon Prime started MGM+ using the content they bought when they bought MGM. They aren't going to feed their own streamer MGM content (other than the Bond movies) and they also license those out to the other streaming services. They want you to pay for it.
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Old 01-26-2023, 07:35 PM   #40451
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alchav21 is nothing more than a, “if I can’t have it then I don’t want you to have it either”. Trolls like him has been around since the days of CompuServe and private BBS's.
Wendell you don't know what you're talking about, and always with your name calling. I still have a large collection of Discs, BD and DVD with a good Player I can still use. I don't want anything you have, I'm content with my Sony UHD TV maybe a bigger one 75" or 85." I can watch just about any Movie or TV Show I want, with IPTV, Server DVR, and Android Apps for my Streaming Content. I keep saying it's All Digital and the Quality is Subjective, and very dependent on your Equipment and Bandwidth!

Last night after watching Wheelman on Netflix, I watched Frisco Kid with Harrison Ford and Gene Wilder off my IPTV Server Based DVR. Remember this is Digital vs Physical Discussion, and I just prefer Digital Now!

You always bring up CompuServe, back in the day they were my Priority Customer when I worked for PacBell. They use to call me 24/7 when one of their Modem Pools went down. I would call one of my Techs to move their Lead Number to another Pool. Very good Customer!

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Old 01-26-2023, 08:49 PM   #40452
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Here is one of the charts Disney presented on Disney Investor Day 2020:



Are we at the end of 2024 yet?

Come on, you're always posting the same graph and wave it around like it's the holy grail.
The Disney board talking to their investors.
Of course they're going to say it will be profitable. What else are they going to say ?
I guess time will tell.
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Old 01-26-2023, 09:35 PM   #40453
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I'm tired of these companies all starting their own services. I see now MGM is making one called MGM+. I thought all their properties were already on Amazon Prime? Peecock doesn't have jack crap on it. Netflix is getting to be the same way. Disney+ has the best content imo. HBO Max I had to cancel as the audio quality was atrocious. I wish we could just go back to the days where everything was on Netflix.
I think it will consolidate into something like NF.

Movies may have a window for theaters and then some type of NF service will have most content.

I believe people will lose interest in having multiple subscriptions.
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Old 01-26-2023, 10:03 PM   #40454
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Come on, you're always posting the same graph and wave it around like it's the holy grail.
The Disney board talking to their investors.
Of course they're going to say it will be profitable. What else are they going to say ?
I guess time will tell.
I repeat . . . is it the end of 2024 yet? No? Yee of little faith.
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Old 01-26-2023, 10:08 PM   #40455
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Wendell you don't know what you're talking about, and always with your name calling.
You are not qualified to comment on my technical skills, if you were then you could have answered some of the fairly simple questions that I have asked you several times. An example: what length of Belden 1508A cable would one need to construct a 300Ω to 75Ω Ĺλ coaxal balun for 475 MHz?

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Old 01-27-2023, 02:17 AM   #40456
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You are not qualified to comment on my technical skills, if you were then you could have answered some of the fairly simple questions that I have asked you several times. An example: what length of Belden 1508A cable would one need to construct a 300Ω to 75Ω Ĺλ coaxal balun for 475 MHz?

Troll: someone that repeats misinformation or false information over and over.
Nobody cares about your Technical question and it makes you look like a smug elitist. I just hope the other members of High End Equipment don't share your narrow minded thoughts. We all love the notion of Story Telling and Film, and it shouldn't be just one Physical Format....Because it's All Digital!!!
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Well Chicken Soup is good for the soul so good luck to them.

I haven't used Redbox in some time.

I rent from them almost weekly. I like doing business with this company. I rented almost 80 discs last year, but I hardly ever pay full price. I joined their frequent renters program, and they send me promo codes weekly. I hope they'll continue to be a factor in physical media.
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I told you guys Disc Prices are going up, here is one YouTuber that says not to worry but IMO the Studios see it differently. Break Even Point and Profit Margins matter!

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I told you guys Disc Prices are going up, here is one YouTuber that says not to worry but IMO the Studios see it differently. Break Even Point and Profit Margins matter!

Best Buy recently started offering free shipping for members with no minimum purchase so I guess this is their way of offsetting that. There's been some discussion on it in the Best Buy thread here.
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ok so I'll ask again and if no one responds the second time I'll take the hint,

We have some professional predictors here so which will go away first ...

Subscription services
Online Movie services
Physical Media

I have Star wars on D+, own it on iTunes and have the UHD BD. Which will I lose first?

I'm betting online movie lockers are the first to go and the only thing in danger of being replaced by subscriptions. Subscriptions is the new cable.

Also, personally I think piracy will be considered cyber crime and become less common and far more dangerous for the end user. Everything is driven by pure greed now so piracy will be an easy target.

And on that topic, Alchav can you tell me more about your IPTV DVR? Is it legit? DRM maintained ? If your a movie pirate it's going to affect how I value your opinions and theories about home video.

-Brian

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