Is 3D dead? (on 3D Blu-ray and 3D TVs)

[gamermwm]

Looks like two 3D movies took the top two spots in the box office this weekend: Madagascar 3 & Prometheus. Seems like the Hollywood execs were expecting 2D star-powered movies such as That's My Boy & Rock of Ages to rake it in. 3D is still alive and kicking AND still selling at the box office

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/box-off...160128266.html

[sycro]

Nothing in the article suggests 3D has anything to do with this. For all you know, it's the 2D versions of both that are putting up big numbers.

[steelerik]

45% AND 51% respectively aint bad stats

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3461&p=.htm

[EricJ]

....NOBODY WENT TO SEE THAT'S MY BOY?????
(Oh, yeah--Musta been the lack of 3-D.)

Last Friday, went to take some friends who were the last people in North America who hadn't seen The Avengers--
We got in to the plex just as previews were about to start, got our tickets, and saw a mile long ticket-entry line...An employee said, "Oh, that's just for Rock of Ages, you can go in."

As for Madagascar's success, think that has more to do with the seductive child-snaring song of the Evil Pied Piper:
Yes, any parent with a preschooler knows, it won't be for another six months from the first airing of the first TV ad that your 3-4-yo. will stop running around the house chanting "I like to move-it-move-it..." At least until the disk comes out.
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[donald.brown]

Originally Posted by steelerik

45% AND 51% respectively aint bad stats

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3461&p=.htm

That''s Right!

[BigNickUK]

blu ray

[jerzdawg]

Originally Posted by EricJ

....NOBODY WENT TO SEE THAT'S MY BOY?????
(Oh, yeah--Musta been the lack of 3-D.)

Last Friday, went to take some friends who were the last people in North America who hadn't seen The Avengers--
We got in to the plex just as previews were about to start, got our tickets, and saw a mile long ticket-entry line...An employee said, "Oh, that's just for Rock of Ages, you can go in."
As for Madagascar's success, think that has more to do with the seductive child-snaring song of the Evil Pied Piper:
Yes, any parent with a preschooler knows, it won't be for another six months from the first airing of the first TV ad that your 3-4-yo. will stop running around the house chanting "I like to move-it-move-it..." At least until the disk comes out.
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Heard on the radio this morning that Rock of Ages "flopped" - something around $15 million? And with the amount of "stars" involved you can bet the budget was something crazy.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by gamermwm

Looks like two 3D movies took the top two spots in the box office this weekend: Madagascar 3 & Prometheus. Seems like the Hollywood execs were expecting 2D star-powered movies such as That's My Boy & Rock of Ages to rake it in. 3D is still alive and kicking AND still selling at the box office

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/box-off...160128266.html

I saw both in 3D, Prometheus 3d was my favored genre of movie with really nice 3D IMO. M3D had really good 3D, but it's definitely a kids film.

I won't be seeing the Rock of Ages or Sandler's That's My Boy movies. Even if they were in 3D... The latter movie's trailers didn't spark any laughs for me. Like SNL for the past few years until recently.
Before Madagascar 3D, they had a preview for Katy Perry 3D, which had some very flat 3D during the dialog, and during the concert clips, pretty good 3D. I'll pass on that one too.

Brave 3D has good 3D, but not sure if I'll see it yet. Reminds me of Robin Hood. Who is the villain? I need to see a strong villain before bothering with it. So far it's about a princess deciding to ignore her parent's wishes...

Abe Vampire Hunter 3D this Friday June 22, 2012, looks promising. A must see for me. Ted 2D, June 29th, might be funny for Family Guy fans.

All opinions of course.

I'll go see a 3D movie first if it looks good, but not a 3D movie I have no interest in, such as Katy Perry 3D, and would see a good 2D movie instead if a good 3D movie wasn't playing at the same time.

Originally Posted by EricJ

Yes, any parent with a preschooler knows, it won't be for another six months from the first airing of the first TV ad that your 3-4-yo. will stop running around the house chanting "I like to move-it-move-it..." At least until the disk comes out.
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I can imagine that's true.

[Lovemy3D]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Brave 3D has good 3D, but not sure if I'll see it yet. Reminds me of Robin Hood. Who is the villain? I need to see a strong villain before bothering with it. So far it's about a princess deciding to ignore her parents

I went to see it today. It was ok but I was pretty disappointed. It wasn't at all what I was expecting, and looking forward to. I thought it was going to be a story of great adventure. It wasn't that at all. Some spectacular visuals though. Beautiful scenery and all that.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

I can imagine that's true.

I don't HAVE to imagine.

[mseeley]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Brave 3D has good 3D, but not sure if I'll see it yet. Reminds me of Robin Hood. Who is the villain? I need to see a strong villain before bothering with it. So far it's about a princess deciding to ignore her parent's wishes...

Saw it last night in 3D and I thought it was really good( nice 3D as well. It serves the lush visuals very well) and (if one isn't too cynical or cold-hearted :P) a very sweet touching movie as well. Not perfect, but if you were left cold by Cars 2, you'll be more than pleased with this one imo

[Gae]

So I noticed that there has been a sparsity of decent Blu-ray 3D releases these last few weeks which is a shame but I've also noticed that there seems to be more and more movie conversions appearing on the horizon. Conversions of questionable quality too. There's the plethora of German releases but also, recently, I've noticed releases of movies that maybe didn't have much box office success a year or so ago. Here's one example....

War Flowers 3D

It seems as though this particular film has had a problematic history too.....

IMDB Board

I've just realized that WarFlowers may actually be a decent movie that has just had a problematic release, but there are many other films that look like they are converted failures...e.g. Adrenaline Rush 3D

Converting and re-releasing failed movies in the hope that the 3D is somehow going to garner more interest will be yet another nail in the coffin of 3D. This type of behaviour is very cynical by the studios and if people keep experiencing sub-standard 3D in sub-standard movies, although it might make the studios a few extra bucks, it may also put people off watching 3D altogether and miss out on the decent stuff.

Gae

[boulder_bum]

Originally Posted by Gae

So I noticed that there has been a sparsity of decent Blu-ray 3D releases these last few weeks which is a shame but I've also noticed that there seems to be more and more movie conversions appearing on the horizon. Conversions of questionable quality too. There's the plethora of German releases but also, recently, I've noticed releases of movies that maybe didn't have much box office success a year or so ago. Here's one example....

War Flowers 3D

It seems as though this particular film has had a problematic history too.....

IMDB Board

I've just realized that WarFlowers may actually be a decent movie that has just had a problematic release, but there are many other films that look like they are converted failures...e.g. Adrenaline Rush 3D

Converting and re-releasing failed movies in the hope that the 3D is somehow going to garner more interest will be yet another nail in the coffin of 3D. This type of behaviour is very cynical by the studios and if people keep experiencing sub-standard 3D in sub-standard movies, although it might make the studios a few extra bucks, it may also put people off watching 3D altogether and miss out on the decent stuff.

Gae

I think the 3D prospects are actually looking up this year!

Prometheus is going to be awesome to watch at home, I'm hoping Avatar 3D will hit stores for Christmas, Titanic and Avengers will be okay even if they're post-converted, Brave and Finding Nemo are hitting 3D Blu, The Amazing Spider Man is coming and that's on top of excellent releases like Hugo and TinTin which came out earlier this year.

Plus, gone are the days when every 3D Blu you wanted was wrapped up in some exclusive deal that made you purchase a certain vendor's TV to get the movie.

[Gae]

I think I may just be suffering from lack of decent Blu-ray 3D release blues. Also, I don't think 3D is on the way out just yet but just that there are some worrying trends with it.

My main concern at the moment is that 3D releases seem to be diverging into two paths. 1) The genuine decent 3D releases (limited as they may be at times) coupled with studios/companies trying to exploit the technology with sub-standard conversions. I'd hate to think that some people are being put off 3D because they have only seen one or two poor conversions and have then vowed to never bother with it again. I'd like to think though, that there's enough good stuff out there to at least counteract the duff stuff and people just have to be a bit more selective as to what they buy. As a 3D fan, it's still worrying though to see the market flooded with naff attempts at 3D.

I wonder whether or not there should be some trading standards set in place? How do you implement such a thing though? We've already discovered on the forum that everyone sees 3D in a different way. What looks good 3D to one person, looks poor to another. I just hope that more and more people experience the best 3D and less people fall foul to buying the dodgy stuff.

Gae

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Gae

I think I may just be suffering from lack of decent Blu-ray 3D release blues. Also, I don't think 3D is on the way out just yet but just that there are some worrying trends with it.

Uh, yeah--Think you may be.
Basically, you're complaining that the only new 3D Blu you saw this week was a B-title you'd never heard of, and immediately pronounced, what was it, "coffin" something?

My main concern at the moment is that 3D releases seem to be diverging into two paths. 1) The genuine decent 3D releases (limited as they may be at times) coupled with studios/companies trying to exploit the technology with sub-standard conversions. I'd hate to think that some people are being put off 3D because they have only seen one or two poor conversions and have then vowed to never bother with it again.

You can't stop people from being dopes. But you can, ahem, TRY to stop them from making immediate knee-jerk judgments and then acting upon them.
What we have are both big A-title and small indie B-title movies coming out, which is actually a good thing. No, not the movies, the idea that it's so common enough now that anything 3-D does get released.

What we've been suffering from is a lack of diversity, but with good, bad, big, small, new, and now old movies available on Blu-3D it's beginning to look, well....just like any other old darn format.

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by EricJ

You can't stop people from being dopes. But you can, ahem, TRY to stop them from making immediate knee-jerk judgments and then acting upon them.

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/17/dark..._2_dimensions/

[Gae]

I think I should have named this thread..

THIS DOESN'T HELP 3D AT ALL

I still think there's been a sparsity of decent releases of late and we have another 2 months for the likes of Creature and Dial on Blu-ray 3D! Also, prices have stagnated a bit here in the UK....can't seem to find many 3D bargains at the moment.

Oh and yes, I admit that I'm just having a gripe...and what's wrong with that once in a while?

Gae

[Gae]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Uh, yeah--Think you may be.
Basically, you're complaining that the only new 3D Blu you saw this week was a B-title you'd never heard of, and immediately pronounced, what was it, "coffin" something?

No there are several others appearing too. Just look at all the German releases on Amazon.

You can't stop people from being dopes. But you can, ahem, TRY to stop them from making immediate knee-jerk judgments and then acting upon them.

Agreed, but these so called "dopes" tend to be the most vociferous in their anti-3D rants and so it just perpetuates the whole current problem of promoting 3D and making it stay this time round. We just end up with a vicious cycle.

What we need is some sort of standard in the industry to stop studios selling crap in the name of 3D.

Gae

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by therainberg

Why are you posing that article Blu-Dog? It praises IMAX as a 3D format and at the end Nolan says he wants to do 3D some day if it serves the story.

It's just to illustrate there's massive confusion about how to handle 3-D at the moment. TDKR isn't in 3-D, and it's not going to be converted.

The industry needs to actually commit to doing it right, or not doing it at all. So far, "not at all" is winning the footrace.

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by Gae

What we need is some sort of standard in the industry to stop studios selling crap in the name of 3D.

Give that man a cigar!