Calibrate Your HDTV

[john_1958]

Originally Posted by schultz

I know everyone says to use cinema/movie mode as it provides the most "accurate" settings, but I use standard. I just don't like how the movie mode dulls everything and makes it look reddish, even if that is more accurate, IMO. Just don't use vivid/dynamic because the settings are so "juiced", they can drain the life of your set. Plus, I think dynamic makes everything look bluish.

i wouldn't use standard and dynamic doesn't kill the life or look bluish

and if you use vivid just adjust the saturation

i watch television with
:-44 briightness
:59 contrast
:50 hue
:53 saturation

[jmlalit5]

Originally Posted by jcs913

Here is a link for a DVE type disc on AVS. Read the thread a little and download the AVCHD disc. It is BD compatable. If you read the instructions a little, it will definetly help your situation. It is also free!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496

Okay....now that was cool. I burned it and played it through my PS3 and this was the first calibration that gave me good looking black levels on the first try. They have instructions for most of the stuff, and I have no clue how to use everything on there that is without an explanation. I also wish I was able to use the blue filter stuff. Thank you very much for showing me this, it will hold me over until the DVE blu-ray comes out.

However, I discovered even more problems with my settings by using this. When on the White Clipping Pattern I tried every single thing possible to see the flashing bars and never saw any. In the Misc Patterns section patterns 5 and 6 were flashing like crazy and it says "Note: Incorrect deinterlacing may cause this pattern to flash". As stated before I have a 1080i HDTV, so what exactly does this mean?

[Kayne314]

The first HD DVD disk I bought was the DVE High Definition Video Essentials disk. It made an absolutely HUGE difference in my PQ.

As I run both my Blu-ray player and HD DVD player through my Onkyo 705 receiver, and the 705 outputs to just HDMI 1 on my TV.( Meaning 1 input on my TV for both players.)

Do you think I'd benefit from a Blu-ray version of the DVE disk? Blu-ray movies always look brighter and clearer on my TV. Would the difference in video bitrate between the two formats make a difference?

[Kayne314]

Originally Posted by jmlalit5

However, I discovered even more problems with my settings by using this. When on the White Clipping Pattern I tried every single thing possible to see the flashing bars and never saw any. In the Misc Patterns section patterns 5 and 6 were flashing like crazy and it says "Note: Incorrect deinterlacing may cause this pattern to flash". As stated before I have a 1080i HDTV, so what exactly does this mean?

On my HD DVD copy of DVE, it states this is a test pattern for 1080p televisions. 1080p televisions de-interlace 1080i signals and make them into 1080p. Some TVs do a better job of de-interlacing than others. If you see the patterns flashing then you know you only have a 1080i picture.

As you only have 1080i anyhow, you are seeing the image correctly.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by jmlalit5

Wow! I must have the HDTV with the worst display settings of all time!
I can't get anything to work out well. It seems that brightness ends up impacting every other setting. When I get every setting right I watch a blu-ray disc and the blacks are a bright grey! So, I turn it down to where it looks black and go back to see if I can see the pluge bars and they don't show up unless I:
A: Turn contrast to 0 (The lower the contrast the more visible it is)
or
B: Forget about seeing the pluge bars and just leave it alone

I'm completely frustrated with my TV!
It's an Insignia brand 1080i HDTV (bought it just for the cheap price, and didn't really know much then)

Any help?

Or should I just be looking for a new TV? (Got some great help on that earlier this month and am close to a final decision)

Just trying to make this set last a little longer and running at full quality.

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

You know the lighter than black pluge bar? Which one are you using to calibrate a 4% one, a 2.7% one (2.5 IRE setup) or a 2% one?

lets use the lighter one 4%. At gamma 2.2*, 4% black is 1190 times darker that 100% white (level 235 white). Do you think you can see a black that's 1200 times darker than a white? Can you see blacks darker than that too? Below black should be, well, below black. o/~ Black is black, I want my baby back. Oh what can I dooo. When I'm feeling blu ~\o






*(and if you have a CRT emulation, or adjust for dark surround viewing conditions slightly (2.35 gamma), 4% black is 1928 times darker than white. 2000:1 black.)

[Go Blue]

Has anyone used the Avia 2 disc to calibrate? If so, how is it? Is it more suitable for HDTV than the current DVE disc?

[Blu-Jedi]

Originally Posted by schultz

Has anyone used the Avia 2 disc to calibrate? If so, how is it? Is it more suitable for HDTV than the current DVE disc?

I have used Avia 2 and it seems to do quite well. It comes with the color filters that you put over your eye while you set it. I think it's better than the older ones, but I am curious about the Blu-ray one from DVE .

[Go Blue]

Originally Posted by Blu-Jedi

I have used Avia 2 and it seems to do quite well. It comes with the color filters that you put over your eye while you set it. I think it's better than the older ones, but I am curious about the Blu-ray one from DVE .

Did you use it with your PS3? If so, are you supposed to upconvert it, or leave it @ 480p?

[guitarist155]

I tried 7669 with close encounters and can't get it to work, has anyone used this disk? i have never done this before but i tried everything to no avail

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by guitarist155

I tried 7669 with close encounters and can't get it to work, has anyone used this disk? i have never done this before but i tried everything to no avail

it has to be entered in the main menu...if you havent already tried.

oh and be sure to press the 'enter' button after the numbers.

[Go Blue]

crackinhedz, does it matter if a calibration disc like DVE or Avia 2 is upconverted when playing throught the PS3?

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by schultz

crackinhedz, does it matter if a calibration disc like DVE or Avia 2 is upconverted when playing throught the PS3?

it shouldnt matter...nothing is really gained since its a standard dvd anyways. Color gradient will still be the same.

also keep in mind these settings may not be ideal for HD sources. In which case you should tweak it a bit more to your liking. (until the DVE Bluray version comes out)

[guitarist155]

in the main menu of the blu-ray i press the triangle button enter 7669 then press enter still nothing, maybe it doesn't work on this disk

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by guitarist155

in the main menu of the blu-ray i press the triangle button enter 7669 then press enter still nothing, maybe it doesn't work on this disk

that could be a possibility. do you have an older SONY disc?

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by guitarist155

in the main menu of the blu-ray i press the triangle button

dont press the triangle button.

[guitarist155]

i just got it to work, it is only on the special features disk of close encounters

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by guitarist155

i just got it to work, it is only on the special features disk of close encounters

cool, maybe others will take note.

[Beta Man]

Does anyone have a Sharp Aquos LC37D43U or similar, that they have calibrated, and can please pass down their calibration settings????

Thanks!

***edit**** Nevermind... I'm gonna start a new thread, to try to get a quick response!

thanks!

[JasonR]

Did anyone else have trouble on the Rat contrast calibration getting the bars that are suppossed to dissapear to dissapear completely. I got them to blend the best I could, but never completely dissapeared. I also thought the Brightness was off, I ended up using the Sony cal and ended up about ten clicks out of a hundred back from what it was.

[crackinhedz]

Jason,

Originally Posted by PSA1

Brightness pattern on the Rat movie is way off don't use that one, use the one on the Sony, it is accurated.

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

thanks. do you have any info on this, how do you come to this conclusion?

Originally Posted by PSA1

I have a post production company and we shoot edit and author to DVD and Blu-ray, the color bars on the Sony disc is accuarated when I checked it on the vector scope, the three pluge bars for adjusting brightness is correct at 0 IRE, 7.5 and 10, it is the same as color bars from my camera and NLE.

The Rat movie way of adjusting brightness is way to bright and that it is wrong, the color bars from Sony is what professional use to adjust their monitor when editing.