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Old 09-20-2018, 04:33 PM   #2521
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The reference premier is a huge upgrade in power (assuming you have the amp for it) and frequency range. It is it worth it? That depends how big your room is to be honest. In a small to medium sized living room, I don't think you'd benefit, though you may hear a difference at high volume. If you had a large dedicated theater room with multiple seats then it's worth the upgrade.

The reference series (non premier) would only be an upgrade if you need more coverage, but would sound the same as your current one.
I may go with the reference premiere then, since it will be going in a dedicated home theater. Thanks again!
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:26 PM   #2522
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I may go with the reference premiere then, since it will be going in a dedicated home theater. Thanks again!
I'm not a speaker guru by any means, but I notice between the two that one is ported in the back and the other in the front. While the front ported one isn't the higher end speaker, it would seem easier to place. The back ported design should be placed somewhat out from the wall with space along all sides to get the full benefit. Something to potentially consider based on your setup.
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Old 09-20-2018, 05:59 PM   #2523
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I'm not a speaker guru by any means, but I notice between the two that one is ported in the back and the other in the front. While the front ported one isn't the higher end speaker, it would seem easier to place. The back ported design should be placed somewhat out from the wall with space along all sides to get the full benefit. Something to potentially consider based on your setup.
I should be fine with having the ports in the back. Thereís pics of my set up in my HT gallery. But I may have to buy a longer stand.
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Old 09-21-2018, 09:17 PM   #2524
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Nice. Where did you get them if u excuse my nosiness
Thank you. I got them off CL. They now reside in my bedroom system. They were replaced by a set of Chorus II's.
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Old 10-01-2018, 05:33 PM   #2525
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Old 10-06-2018, 02:40 PM   #2526
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Dear Klipsch,

You got me good. I purchased (1) R28-f speaker in July when it was 50% off with plans of grabbing another this Black Friday. I had plans of "piecing together" a system. Well you know the rest of the story; R28-f unavailable on the website and nearly $400 at retail if they have any. Just my luck.

-Mono in Maine
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:31 PM   #2527
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Dear Klipsch,

You got me good. I purchased (1) R28-f speaker in July when it was 50% off with plans of grabbing another this Black Friday. I had plans of "piecing together" a system. Well you know the rest of the story; R28-f unavailable on the website and nearly $400 at retail if they have any. Just my luck.

-Mono in Maine
Best Buy has the R-28F on clearance (which usually means they are discontinuing that item) for $359.99 each

Maybe it will go on a better sale for Black Friday..or it may be all together unavailable by then. Risky risky
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Old 11-11-2018, 03:08 AM   #2528
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I recently recalibrated my RP’s with Audyssey and decided to try the Reference curve. I’ve only been using the Flat curve since purchasing the RP’s. I’m pleasantly surprised with the results especially with how my 140sa modules sound now. I thought a high frequency roll off would hinder their performance but my RP’s now disappear into my room now. They sound silky, crisp and smooth with fantastic detail. Less fatiguing and I’m pushing them louder now.
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Old 11-11-2018, 03:53 AM   #2529
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I recently recalibrated my RPís with Audyssey and decided to try the Reference curve. Iíve only been using the Flat curve since purchasing the RPís. Iím pleasantly surprised with the results especially with how my 140sa modules sound now. I thought a high frequency roll off would hinder their performance but my RPís now disappear into my room now. They sound silky, crisp and smooth with fantastic detail. Less fatiguing and Iím pushing them louder now.
The midrange compensation that Audyssey Reference uses fights harshness by putting a dip at about 2K Hz, but returns the curve to normal in the "presence" range (4K to 8K, approximately) then starts the roll-off at about 8K, reaching -2 at 10 K, and -6 at 20K.

For excellent recordings, I tend to use Audyssey Flat, and for less than excellent recordings, I use Audyssey Reference.

Classical and Jazz recordings are still good, but pop, rock and metal producers are in the middle of a disturbing period in which they jack up the midrange, and attenuate the bass. Audyssey Reference is a partial cure for that. See Chris A's The Missing Octave over on the Klipsch Community Forum.
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Old 11-12-2018, 06:59 PM   #2530
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Quick question. Do you all have your receivers set to small or large for your Klipsch towers and center channel? in ur 5.1 or 7.2 And is it a noticable difference?
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:33 PM   #2531
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I have my mains and center set to small and 100hz. My surrounds at 150hz.
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:52 PM   #2532
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I've tried it both ways, repeatedly, with my Klipschorn Right and Left and my Belle Klipsch center.
  • In MY case, in my room, in my opinion, "small" works best -- a little more clarity. I resisted this mightily for a while. How ridiculous it seemed to set a large speaker like a Klipschorn "small." But, everyone told me, "small" and "large" are misnomers in the world of AVPs (pre-pros) and AVRs. For almost all CDs, SACDs and movies, small sounds better.
  • Some people get more comb filtering and phase cancellation with "large." That's unfortunate, and enough to push most people toward "small."
  • Hopefully, your ears and measurements will tell you the same thing, but you might want to run REW sweeps (free online, but you need a calibrated microphone and need to enter the calibration into REW) to make sure. If you listen alone, run three curves, one where the center of your head would be, and one to either side of each ear. This is because moving the microphone just a few inches will change the results, which is why people as opposite in point of view as Paul Klipsch and Edgar Villchur were against graphic equalizers. After you get three curves, average them (REW has an "average the results" button). Then look and see whether "small" or "large" gives you smoother results. Some of this depends on your room, speaker placement, and listener placement. If you use an AVR that has Audyssey XT32 and is new enough to use the app, it will give you a correction curve that uses a "fuzzy logic" (a good thing) based on all 8 microphone positions Audyssey uses. Which final "after" curve looks better, "small" or "large?" If you listen in groups of people or watch movies that way, you can put the REW mic in each of the 8 positions the Audyssey mic was in, then average them, but your average won't be quite as accurate as Audyssey's fuzzy creature.
  • Using "small" results in more headroom being available to your main speakers, lowering the probability of your AVR clipping. That way, your powered subwoofer can do the heavy lifting.
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Old 11-16-2018, 02:10 AM   #2533
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Finally last month I decided to upgrade my Polk speakers that I’ve had for about 6 years to Klipsch. Decided to do it in piece cause of the cost and I’m now with sales looking for the best options to go with the center I purchased

I have the 504C in piano black, wish I just purchased ebony but to late now. I’m looking at the RP-800f. Of course all the sale I’m finding are not in piano but opinions on matching the 800f with the 504c?
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Old 01-26-2019, 07:15 AM   #2534
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Klipsch sale some products 50% off
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Quick question. Do you all have your receivers set to small or large for your Klipsch towers and center channel? in ur 5.1 or 7.2 And is it a noticable difference?
If using a powered sub in your system you should always have your speakers set to small. Let the sub do what it's meant to do in handling all the lows. My front stage is set to 80 with my surrounds at 100.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:01 AM   #2536
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I upgraded my Klipsch reference Icon speakers to Reference premier and bought better models of each speaker. Very pleased with the sound improvements!

I'm using:
RP 140SA for height.
RP8000F for towers
RP 504C for center
2X SW 450 "10" inch subs (front)
2X R115 "15" Inch subs (rear)






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Recently upgraded from my old Reference 42 speakers from 2011 to a set of RP-8000F fronts and an RP-450C center. Loving the upgrade, especially after I threw up some acoustic treatments.

Any suggestions for the surround upgrades? I still have my pair of old reference surrounds, but I'd like to upgrade those as well along with going to a 7 speaker setup.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:32 AM   #2538
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Any suggestions for the surround upgrades? I still have my pair of old reference surrounds, but I'd like to upgrade those as well along with going to a 7 speaker setup.
x2 on that I'm in the same boat, I just upgraded my old Polk's and got RP-8060FA towers, RP-504C center, and an R-115SW sub... I didn't order surrounds yet for one because I spent more than I had originally planned lol and also because I'm not sure which ones would work best for me at the moment... I'm deciding between RP-502S or RP-600M... my current setup is like the pic below and I will be using my old Polk TSi100 bookshelf speakers for now until I decide what to go with... don't mind the sub placement, I will mess around with that since my sub has a wireless option:



I am not opposed to adding 2 more speakers behind me in the future but for now I just want to do 5.1, what are your opinions on the speaker that would benefit me the most with my current setup?... it seems like the 502S would have more coverage than the 600M but I am no expert
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If you have 8060 towers then I would assume you have an Atmos powered amp. If it's 11 channel then I would buy matching 8060 towers for the rear so that all of your height channels match and the towers match. If you have a 9.1 amp or you are not planning on using the rear height channels then I would go for the 8000F towers. If you don't have the room or you don't want to spend the money for matching towers then I would go for the 600M surround speakers.

The reason why I would choose the 600M over the 502's is that Atmos uses direct audio to combine sounds in order to transition sound effects and place sounds around the room. Speakers that shoot in multiple directions are not recommended for Atmos enabled setups. As you said, you can always add more direct channels behind you if you want better rear coverage in the future.

BTW, I'm no pro. I'm just an average joe and this is my opinion based on what I have read.

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Old 06-10-2019, 08:34 PM   #2540
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Could someone help an audio novice please

i'm looking at the Klipsch Black Reference Theater Pack 5.1 Surround Sound System and possibly pairing that with Denon AVR-S740H Receiver. First time buyer of any home theatre audio equip and completely lost!
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