Sony must update Audio decoding for PS3

[LOTR07]

Now that the format war is over Sony must focus it's efforts on upgrading the PS3's remaining Audio deficiencies. This will allow for additional sales and focus on how advanced the PS3 is over the Xdud and stand alone players.

[dk3dknight]

Would you mind listing these audio deficiencies.

It seems those sony engineer folks release updates
to make a specific group happy, one update made the
video people happy, pissed off the game people, one
made the game people happy but the video people pissed
off, and one made the audio people happy but pissed
everyone else off.

So is the vicious cycle of firmware.

[LOTR07]

DTS HDMA and Profile 2.0.

[bootman]

Originally Posted by LOTR07

DTS HDMA and Profile 2.0.

I see how this would make it on par with the lastest standalones, but how does this affect the Gamewars?
Does the 360 have games with DTS-HD MA?
No, so I don't see how this helps the PS3 as far as that goes.

[Irishwiseguy2006]

Originally Posted by bootman

I see how this would make it on par with the lastest standalones, but how does this affect the Gamewars?
Does the 360 have games with DTS-HD MA?
No, so I don't see how this helps the PS3 as far as that goes.

Because I play blu movies and want the best sound I can get

[BLU_Heaven]

Absolutely!!!

[bootman]

Originally Posted by Irishwiseguy2006

Because I play blu movies and want the best sound I can get

I get that, but he mentioned outselling the 360.

[poloboyclh]

Considering there are 10 million PS3s out there, and I have to imagine a large percentage are used as primary BD players, there's no reason it shouldn't have internal decoding for DTSMA and TrueHD

[bootman]

I feel it should have it also, if it can. (btw it does TrueHD now)
If it can't, will current owners using them as players only upgrade to a standalone in the future?

[jsteinhauer]

Now they've got you by the knutz, and they could just force you to buy a standalone, if you want more features. They simply used all the PS3 owners to drive software sales for all these months. I think there will be no more updates.

It certainly won't hurt movie or game sales, but it could help drive standalone sales and be an act of good faith toward the other manufacturers of standalones.

[LOTR07]

This would give an additional advantage because of the sound quality. Game development could be extended to that level creating broader sound realms to be put forth on new games. With all the detail and picture quality why not advance the sound quality

[talbers23]

Originally Posted by LOTR07

DTS HDMA and Profile 2.0.

i just want bitstream audio

[LOTR07]

Originally Posted by jsteinhauer

Now they've got you by the knutz, and they could just force you to buy a standalone, if you want more features. They simply used all the PS3 owners to drive software sales for all these months. I think there will be no more updates.

It certainly won't hurt movie or game sales, but it could help drive standalone sales and be an act of good faith toward the other manufacturers of standalones.

Now that's palying with fire as that would tend to make supporters of the PS3 a little angry.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by LOTR07

DTS HDMA and Profile 2.0.

Thats f-ing it right there, hell yeah . & for the gamers in game XMB, music & easier messaging. *FACT* IF THIS IS DONE NOTHING COULD TOUCH THE PS3 .

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by talbers23

i just want bitstream audio

Mmhmm. This is the main reason that, now that the format war is over, specs are finalized, and prices should continue to fall, I'll be doing a lot more research into standalone players. Otherwise I wouldn't have any inclination to replace my PS3.

[MacDaddyOJack]

Originally Posted by talbers23

i just want bitstream audio

PS3 will never bitstream HD audio, it doesnt have the correct chipset. It may decode all HD audio in the future, but bitstreaming will never be anything more than a dream.

[LOTR07]

Originally Posted by MacDaddyOJack

PS3 will never bitstream HD audio, it doesnt have the correct chipset. It may decode all HD audio in the future, but bitstreaming will never be anything more than a dream.

How much more detail would be achievable with bitstream? With the new recievers out now and advancements on that end the PS3 absoulutley sounds amazing. My pioneer 94 makes it zing.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by LOTR07

This would give an additional advantage because of the sound quality. Game development could be extended to that level creating broader sound realms to be put forth on new games. With all the detail and picture quality why not advance the sound quality

1. That's already the case with some PS3 titles...they use 7.1 LPCM. RFOM was also THX. So the sound in games is already better than what the 360 can offer.

2. They would likely stick to #1 instead of DTS-MA or TrueHD for games so they can keep the processing for the graphics, physics etc. The compressed formats require additional horsepower from the player .. that isn't an issue with movies but would be for game developers. It's one of the reasons why the 50 GB was important even more so than movies....the audio can be kept in uncompressed LPCM because it has the freeedom of disk space to do so .. without placing an extra burden on the processor for decoding.

3. The 360 HD DVD add-in never supported any HD Audio so yes DTS-MA would be one more thing the PS3 has over that combo in addition to TrueHD and LPCM. And as previously mentioned 7.1 LPCM is already there for games on the PS3.

P.S. It's Xbox and 360...your just antagonizing people with the Xdud comment. Please stop. It's unnecessary. Let the facts about the capabilities of the PS3 speak instead.

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by LOTR07

How much more detail would be achievable with bitstream? With the new recievers out now and advancements on that end the PS3 absoulutley sounds amazing. My pioneer 94 makes it zing.

You (and I) paid a good buck for our Pioneer receivers to do what little work they're doing. A good bit of the price is in the processing they're not doing, and I would rather trust the processing to the receiver than the player.

[krisztoforo]

Originally Posted by LOTR07

How much more detail would be achievable with bitstream? With the new recievers out now and advancements on that end the PS3 absoulutley sounds amazing. My pioneer 94 makes it zing.

Sending the audio to the receiver via bitstream does not increase any detail. If the decoding is done correctly it will sound exactly the same as if the player (PS3) decodes it.