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Old 08-05-2019, 01:11 PM   #1
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Default With Disney Plus coming will you be more likely to sell digital codes?

If youíre going to subscribe to Disney Plus, whatís the point in redeeming Disney digital codes? Iím thinking I might as well just sell my Disney/Marvel codes from now on.

I just donít have a lot of faith in digital right now. Like many others have said, it feels like a long-term rental.

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Old 08-05-2019, 02:26 PM   #2
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Movies will come and go from Disney+ FYI

I will be buying way less movies though as most of my collection is available on different streaming services I have and I don't rewatch older content as much anymore
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:41 PM   #3
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I pretty much only redeem my MCU codes now, all others are sold off. I would still want to have a digital backup for my MCU collection but I see what you mean.
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:47 PM   #4
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I personally would still redeem mine, but Iím not someone who cares generally about selling digital codes. Iíd rather trade a code for another code. Itís definitely a good way to offset the cost though if youíre someone who buys Disney titles Day 1.

When you own the movie on VUDU or iTunes, you have the ability to download the title to your device for watching without an internet connection. Might be handy for road trips with the kids if you donít want to use up the data allotment on the iPad or if youíre traveling in a remote area that has spotty service.

Iím mostly interested in Disney+ for their original programming and older content that may or may not ever be available on disc.
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I personally would still redeem mine, but Iím not someone who cares generally about selling digital codes. Iíd rather trade a code for another code. Itís definitely a good way to offset the cost though if youíre someone who buys Disney titles Day 1.

When you own the movie on VUDU or iTunes, you have the ability to download the title to your device for watching without an internet connection. Might be handy for road trips with the kids if you donít want to use up the data allotment on the iPad or if youíre traveling in a remote area that has spotty service.

Iím mostly interested in Disney+ for their original programming and older content that may or may not ever be available on disc.
Trading is better. The only problem with trading is when your digital collection become really big. It is really hard doing trade when you have over 1300 digital movies. Sometimes it is better selling for purchasing digital movies not available with digital codes.
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:24 PM   #6
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I wish we knew if we could 100% trust digital to stick around. It really concerns me.

Someone brought up a good point here also: what if Disney Plus doesn’t keep all the Marvel movies in their library? Then I guess I would be screwed (for my favorites I do like to redeem the code, like Iron Man I likely will keep).

On the flip side, I was looking at my twitter feed a few days ago, and someone posted how the Reservoir Dogs disc used a certain glue, and the disc won’t play now. This is news to me!
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:29 PM   #7
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Movies will come and go from Disney+ FYI
Has that been explicitly stated? Disney had announced that the entire "Disney Vault" would be available through the service. They didn't make it sound like they intend to pull/swap out movies in that announcement.

I'm actually not against them rotating movies out, as I still plan to buy movies on Blu-Ray, and worry that if everything is constantly available on the service, it could really hurt physical sales. But I've seen nothing to indicate that they will do that.
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I just give away my digital codes to family and friends if they want it. I try to pay it forward. That being said I'm excited for Disney + and I'll immediately pay for a year out and look forward to the original content and what classic gems they'll have .
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:38 PM   #9
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I just give away my digital codes to family and friends if they want it. I try to pay it forward. That being said I'm excited for Disney + and I'll immediately pay for a year out and look forward to the original content and what classic gems they'll have .
Iím excited to use it as well.

The current DisneyNOW app is very good too though!
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Old 08-05-2019, 03:43 PM   #10
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I won't sell my codes. I tried it once on ebay, included in a blu-ray/dvd combo pack, and the person who bought it claimed that the code had already been redeemed, which it hadn't, and wanted a full refund. Never again. I'm more likely to trade the code if it's not a movie I like, and sell the discs separately.
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Has that been explicitly stated? Disney had announced that the entire "Disney Vault" would be available through the service. They didn't make it sound like they intend to pull/swap out movies in that announcement.

I'm actually not against them rotating movies out, as I still plan to buy movies on Blu-Ray, and worry that if everything is constantly available on the service, it could really hurt physical sales. But I've seen nothing to indicate that they will do that.
The vault is different than new releases.

They have not said exactly what will happen. But most think the current rotation of films cycling through various cable and on demand sites is too lucrative for Disney to give up on.
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Old 08-05-2019, 04:21 PM   #12
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I'll probably subscribe to Disney+ this Fall if available through AppleTV Channels, and next year if not.

However, I will not give up any codes unless I already own the film in that resolution already, because I may not always keep Disney+, nor will the movie or show always be available.
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If our digital rights collections are good for 50 years I'll be happy. I mean, who still owns their cassette or cd collections? The next best thing will eventually come down the road. I have no plans on subbing to D+, and will keep buying your codes off of this forum.
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If our digital rights collections are good for 50 years I'll be happy. I mean, who still owns their cassette or cd collections? The next best thing will eventually come down the road. I have no plans on subbing to D+, and will keep buying your codes off of this forum.
So you're going to miss out on all the original and exclusive content?
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I won't sell my codes. I tried it once on ebay, included in a blu-ray/dvd combo pack, and the person who bought it claimed that the code had already been redeemed, which it hadn't, and wanted a full refund. Never again. I'm more likely to trade the code if it's not a movie I like, and sell the discs separately.
If you're still using ebay then you're doing it wrong
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Has that been explicitly stated? Disney had announced that the entire "Disney Vault" would be available through the service. They didn't make it sound like they intend to pull/swap out movies in that announcement.

I'm actually not against them rotating movies out, as I still plan to buy movies on Blu-Ray, and worry that if everything is constantly available on the service, it could really hurt physical sales. But I've seen nothing to indicate that they will do that.
https://www.cnet.com/news/disney-str...CAD-00-10aag7d

Just 300 movies at launch. Now they expect to have it up to 500 within a year, but that means not everything in the vault will be there, particularly with you calculate their direct to video movies and films from Fox, National Geographic etc. that will be on the service (apparently it wonít launch with every eligible Marvel and Star Wars movie for instance).

Also, though itís way down the line, seems like all the movies Disney released between 2016-2018 will leave the service in 2026 due to previous licensing contracts. While obviously itís way different from physical discs, I donít even see a subscription service as an ideal alternative to digital ownership.
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50 years?

What incentive do any of the digital providers or studios have to give you access to all your digital movies and TV shows for 50 years? It costs them money to store those movies and renew contracts. Plus there are always censorship issues that will cause movies to be removed or modified because someone may be offended.

Only the most popular movies are likely to continually remain available for decades. Thousands of other movies and TV shows will disappear from digital storefronts and collections.

It's in that the license agreements that you sign when you use any of the digital stores: content can be removed at any time for any reason. Expecting your digital collection to remain safe for 50 years is absurd.

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50 years?

What incentive do any of the digital providers or studios have to give you access to all your digital movies and TV shows for 50 years? It costs them money to store those movies and renew contracts. Plus there are always censorship issues that will cause movies to be removed or modified because someone may be offended.

Only the most popular movies are likely to continually remain available for decades. Thousands of other movies and TV shows will disappear from digital storefronts and collections.

It's in that the license agreements that you sign when you use any of the digital stores: content can be removed at any time for any reason. Expecting your digital collection to remain safe for 50 years is absurd.
I thought that (50 years) was a little high as well.

How many years are you guessing?

Always a tough decision to keep or sell my codes - hell, if they're just going to disappear I might as well just sell 'em!
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Even if the movies were to stay on D+ indefinitely, I'd still use my digital codes because I won't be on D+ indefinitely. I'll subscribe when they have enough stuff I want to watch to warrant a month.
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Old 08-07-2019, 02:53 PM   #20
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Even if the movies were to stay on D+ indefinitely, I'd still use my digital codes because I won't be on D+ indefinitely. I'll subscribe when they have enough stuff I want to watch to warrant a month.
^Same for me. I'll subscribe on and off when there is stuff I really want to watch.
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