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Old 02-23-2016, 08:12 PM   #21
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I'll gladly buy LOTR on UHD-BR.
Anyone know the maximum res LOTR could theoretically go to? It was filmed on 35mm right?

Though they were 2K masters I believe, so any effects would be upscaled.

What's going to be frustrating, is waiting for the LOTR EE UHD to release. The Theatricals always come first.
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Anyone know the maximum res LOTR could theoretically go to? It was filmed on 35mm right?

Though they were 2K masters I believe, so any effects would be upscaled.

What's going to be frustrating, is waiting for the LOTR EE UHD to release. The Theatricals always come first.
It would ALL be upscaled unless they recomp everything
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Old 02-23-2016, 09:29 PM   #23
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It would ALL be upscaled unless they recomp everything
There must be select shots in there that have no visual effects, no? I'm not expecting masses of footage, but there has to be some shots they can scan in for a higher res, surely?
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There must be select shots in there that have no visual effects, no? I'm not expecting masses of footage, but there has to be some shots they can scan in for a higher res, surely?
In rings? Maybe a couple of mins total
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There must be select shots in there that have no visual effects, no?
I'm not sure a bump in resolution is really what those movies need. I don't own them, but I seem to recall a coloring issue when they were released on BD (beyond the normal whining we always hear).

So maybe a UHD-BD could correct those problems -- and the movie itself would certainly benefit from the wider color gamut of UHD-BD.
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In rings? Maybe a couple of mins total
I'd be fine with that.

Then again, I'd be fine with just the 2K version with a new HDR grade.

Wonder if they'll still split the EEs across two discs. Two 100GB discs per film would pack some serious quality

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I'm not sure a bump in resolution is really what those movies need. I don't own them, but I seem to recall a coloring issue when they were released on BD (beyond the normal whining we always hear).

So maybe a UHD-BD could correct those problems -- and the movie itself would certainly benefit from the wider color gamut of UHD-BD.
Only colour 'issue' was with the first movie when it was released on BD in Extended Edition form. The movie was given a new colour grading under the supervision of Andrew Lesnie (RIP) and Peter Jackson, the change was intentional.
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Then again, I'd be fine with just the 2K version with a new HDR grade.
I wouldn't. However, I'd certainly be fine with the 2K version with the original grade, as more accurately represented in the UHD-format colorspace.
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I wouldn't. However, I'd certainly be fine with the 2K version with the original grade, as more accurately represented in the UHD-format colorspace.
I'd also be fine with this.

Just gimme LOTR EE on UHD. I'll be happy with that.

Maybe they'll finally compile all the bonus features onto a Blu-ray disc this time. Imagine they still bundled the same DVDs
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It will be interesting to see what they will do with film grain this time around since most ordinary people couldn't handle film grain in ordinary HD.
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It will be interesting to see what they will do with film grain this time around since most ordinary people couldn't handle film grain in ordinary HD.
Depending on the source it will be finer or stupid thick, course and messy.
It's the same issue, but a good 4k scan will resolve more grain.
Universals new 4k scans have some grain management already, but are a huge improvement for them
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Depending on the source it will be finer or stupid thick, course and messy.
It's the same issue, but a good 4k scan will resolve more grain.
Universals new 4k scans have some grain management already, but are a huge improvement for them
Well with this format Majors don't seem to care too much about high fidelity to the source, otherwise HDR wouldn't be forced on us on catalog titles that were never meant to be seen that way...
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Well with this format Majors don't seem to care too much about high fidelity to the source, otherwise HDR wouldn't be forced on us on catalog titles that were never meant to be seen that way...
Yes, and that is why, so far, I find it hard to care about the format.

What I do care about is the format's potential, because it could be used for good instead of evil and, if so, it could be spectacular.
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how would hdr affect the color timing won't it be adding more color too it
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how would hdr affect the color timing won't it be adding more color too it
Is that right?
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What you don't understand?

You can't crop 4:3 to Ultra Wide (2.4:1), too much of the picture is gone from top and bottom.
But 1.78:1 (16:9) can be cropped to 2.4:1 without worrying about loosing too much of the picture.

Which is directly related to the OP question... old movies are in 4:3 you know.
Why the shit would anybody be cropping their image to 2.41?

What situation would that be a common issue? For the 0.00001% of people out there who both went out of their way to get a 2.39 television and care little enough about framing and image quality to pan and scan their content?
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how would hdr affect the color timing won't it be adding more color too it
Ohhhhhh, dear.
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Ohhhhhh, dear.
i meant to the picture not color timing am i wrong.
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i meant to the picture not color timing am i wrong.
Anything that has to do with the color is part of the color timing. How red the red is. How blue the blue is. Etc.

Remember the hissy fit people threw because Fellowship was green instead of blue or blue instead of green and Gladiator was extra warm?

That.

So of course HDR would affect it, if the colors are being boosted beyond the original intent.

Sidebar, batman, I have to ask your age. It's helping me to piece a puzzle. Solve a crossword. As it were.
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Anything that has to do with the color is part of the color timing. How red the red is. How blue the blue is. Etc.

Remember the hissy fit people threw because Fellowship was green instead of blue or blue instead of green and Gladiator was extra warm?

That.

So of course HDR would affect it, if the colors are being boosted beyond the original intent.

Sidebar, batman, I have to ask your age. It's helping me to piece a puzzle. Solve a crossword. As it were.
30 why?
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30 why?
Morbid curiosity. But there's your explanation re: HDR affecting color timing. I'm sure someone else could expand further, if need be.
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