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Old 04-19-2016, 12:13 PM   #21
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I don't understand Chinese. I'm wondering if the image below shows the first Dolby Vision UHD BDs.

[IMG]http://img3.coocaa.com/goods/skyworth/newx/S9-I/S9-1.jpg[IMG]

This image is taken at the Skyworth S9-I OLED TV web page.
http://shop.skyworth.com/goods/get_1157.html?
http://shop.skyworth.com/goods/get_1156.html?

The Skyworth S9-I TV was launched recently in China:
. 55S9-I: Y17000 (i.e., $2500)
. 65S9-I: Y30000 (i.e., $4500)

They are compatible with Dolby Vision and HDR10.
https://translate.google.com/transla...183341080.html
No, I don't think so. Mad Max is already released released, and we know that's not in Dolby Vision. And I don't see Deadpool in the picture either, so I don't think that will be the first title.

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With that said, I highly doubt the rumoured PS4 NEO is going to include a UHD BD drive, let alone Dolby Vision.

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Old 04-19-2016, 02:58 PM   #23
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With that said, I highly doubt the rumoured PS4 NEO is going to include a UHD BD drive, let alone Dolby Vision.

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Unfortunately I think you are right. Sony is probably more interested in directing traffic to their new Ultra streaming service than they are about UHD BD in general.
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No, I don't think so. Mad Max is already released released, and we know that's not in Dolby Vision. And I don't see Deadpool in the picture either, so I don't think that will be the first title.

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I'm Chinese. That pic didn't mention any UHD BDs. The "Geek-Max" part can be translated as "With back up force from Tencent Video, you can watch NBA matches and Hollywood films, with our exclusive sections "Dolby Vision" and "4K section (or OLED?)" in lossless form."

It is mostly talking streaming then, since Tencent Video is an online streaming video platform.
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Old 04-20-2016, 05:06 AM   #25
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April 19th, 2016 - Universal To Offer 4K Blu-ray Discs Beginning In The Summer

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All 4K Blu-ray titles will offer High Dynamic Range (HDR) in the HDR 10 format, and select titles will feature Dolby Vision, excluding IMAX titles, when players are available with Dolby Vision support, a spokesperson told TWICE. Many disc titles will also feature object-based surround sound.
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I just read the news too. Nice to see Universal is stepping up. Here's hoping for Oblivion in IMAX AR encoded in Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos,

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Old 04-20-2016, 08:10 AM   #27
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So for Dolby Vision on UHD BLURAY we only need an HDR10 TV?
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:29 AM   #28
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So for Dolby Vision on UHD BLURAY we only need an HDR10 TV?
You need a Dolby vision player and screen
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Old 04-20-2016, 02:10 PM   #29
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It does say they'll release Dolby Vision discs when there's actual Dolby Vision player support, so that might be a while yet.
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while a Dolby Vision display represents an significantly improved (subjectively) picture quality displaying both standard definition (SD) and high definition (HD) content of lesser quality (broadcast - DVD - Blu-Ray & streaming), the Dolby Vision 'experience' is not 'complete or realized' until the 'complete chain of playback is in place (this means, that all 'three elements' are present, which is a 'certified and designated' display, 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-ray player, and as importantly, a content title specifically 'color graded' in Dolby Vision)

it is important to realize that currently, only displays are available, that neither of the 'missing' elements of content and players will be available for some time (streaming channels the exception, although limited content)

point :: Dolby Vision 'requires' (content - player - display) to really 'see' what it is, although in the interim, limited content is available via various streaming channels, which while they are quite nice, are not of the quality of forthcoming 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-ray player and content performance

regardless, as an current owner of several of the Vizio P-Series displays (both the previous 2014 models and the recently released 2016 models (Dolby Vision), in the interim, enjoyment of the display improvements and content improvements currently available, is simply outstanding, particularly 'improvements in color' on everything that i have thus far seen, without exception

so, an HDR 10 display, will not support Dolby Vision (there is a required hardware component) and an Dolby Vision display can support HDR 10 so long as the display manufacturer provides the necessary (software) support

an example :: while the current Vizio P-Series (2016) are Dolby Vision, and do not currently support HDR 10, via an forthcoming firmware update (less than two months now) they will concurrently be able to play non-HDR content, HDR 10 content, and Dolby Vision content, all of which are outstanding



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Old 04-20-2016, 05:51 PM   #31
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the full Dolby Vision signal is compressed for distribution as a single layer non-backwards compatible stream, or a dual layer stream for uncompromised backward compatibility supporting today’s standard rec.709 TVs as well as the latest Dolby Vision and HDR-10 TVs.
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while a Dolby Vision display represents an significantly improved (subjectively) picture quality displaying both standard definition (SD) and high definition (HD) content of lesser quality (broadcast - DVD - Blu-Ray & streaming), the Dolby Vision 'experience' is not 'complete or realized' until the 'complete chain of playback is in place (this means, that all 'three elements' are present, which is a 'certified and designated' display, 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-ray player, and as importantly, a content title specifically 'color graded' in Dolby Vision)

it is important to realize that currently, only displays are available, that neither of the 'missing' elements of content and players will be available for some time (streaming channels the exception, although limited content)

point :: Dolby Vision 'requires' (content - player - display) to really 'see' what it is, although in the interim, limited content is available via various streaming channels, which while they are quite nice, are not of the quality of forthcoming 4K HDR Ultra HD Blu-ray player and content performance

regardless, as an current owner of several of the Vizio P-Series displays (both the previous 2014 models and the recently released 2016 models (Dolby Vision), in the interim, enjoyment of the display improvements and content improvements currently available, is simply outstanding, particularly 'improvements in color' on everything that i have thus far seen, without exception

so, an HDR 10 display, will not support Dolby Vision (there is a required hardware component) and an Dolby Vision display can support HDR 10 so long as the display manufacturer provides the necessary (software) support

an example :: while the current Vizio P-Series (2016) are Dolby Vision, and do not currently support HDR 10, via an forthcoming firmware update (less than two months now) they will concurrently be able to play non-HDR content, HDR 10 content, and Dolby Vision content, all of which are outstanding
Yeah.
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Old 04-20-2016, 11:49 PM   #33
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Will the supposed DV player and TV's need to have the newest hdmi 2.1 version to support dynamic metadata?
There's been discussion over in the other 4K forum threads, but no timeframe for it rolling out.
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No, in fact Dolby Vision is built on top of HDMI 1.4. HDMI 2.1 will be used by yet other types of HDR.
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No, in fact Dolby Vision is built on top of HDMI 1.4. HDMI 2.1 will be used by yet other types of HDR.
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No, in fact Dolby Vision is built on top of HDMI 1.4. HDMI 2.1 will be used by yet other types of HDR.
Actually it looks like it's going to be HDMI 2.0b
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UHD BD is officially the Lord Supreme Cinephile Home Video Format.
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Actually it looks like it's going to be HDMI 2.0b
Yeah, I'm gonna need a source on that. There are multiple TVs out that can do Dolby Vision and none of them are HDMI 2.0b.

Plus, just search online for dolby vision hdmi 1.4 and you will see what I mean. They did not want to wait for hdmi 2.0 when developing the so called Dolby Vision "standard".
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UHD BD is officially the Lord Supreme Cinephile Home Video Format.
No that's still laserdisc
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So we need a special UHD player to play Dolby Vision titles, will we need a Dolby Vision equipped receiver to pass it or will any HDMI 2.0a/HDCP 2.2 receiver do?
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