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Old 04-22-2016, 05:52 PM   #41
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So we need a special UHD player to play Dolby Vision titles, will we need a Dolby Vision equipped receiver to pass it or will any HDMI 2.0a/HDCP 2.2 receiver do?
No, if you already have a receiver that can do HDCP 2.2 you are good to go. Only the source and the target need to support Dolby Vision. not the intermediate devices.
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Old 04-22-2016, 06:41 PM   #42
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Yeah, I'm gonna need a source on that. There are multiple TVs out that can do Dolby Vision and none of them are HDMI 2.0b.
sorry not for Dolby Vision, I was thinking for HDR10 dynamic , but I don't see anything about here.

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HDMI 2.0b, which is backwards compatible with earlier versions of the HDMI specification, is the most recent update of the HDMI specification. It also enables key enhancements to support market requirements for enhancing the consumer video and audio experience.

What are the key advanced features enabled by HDMI 2.0b?

Enables transmission of High Dynamic Range (HDR) video
Bandwidth up to 18Gbps
4K@50/60 (2160p), which is 4 times the clarity of 1080p/60 video resolution
Up to 32 audio channels for a multi-dimensional immersive audio experience
Up to 1536kHz audio sample frequency for the highest audio fidelity
Simultaneous delivery of dual video streams to multiple users on the same screen
Simultaneous delivery of multi-stream audio to multiple users (Up to 4)
Support for the wide angle theatrical 21:9 video aspect ratio
Dynamic synchronization of video and audio streams
CEC extensions provide more expanded command and control of consumer electronics devices through a single control point

HDMI 2.0b does not define new cables or new connectors. Current High Speed cables (Category 2 cables) are capable of carrying the increased bandwidth.
Unless they mean Dynamic synchronization of video and audio streams

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Old 04-22-2016, 06:50 PM   #43
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No that's still laserdisc
Yeah, your right.
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No, if you already have a receiver that can do HDCP 2.2 you are good to go. Only the source and the target need to support Dolby Vision. not the intermediate devices.
Do you have a source on this? I'm interested in buying a Pioneer VSX-90 but I'm not going to jump unless I know for sure it will pass Dolby Vision. My next 4k TV will most likely support it.
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:26 PM   #45
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Do you have a source on this? I'm interested in buying a Pioneer VSX-90 but I'm not going to jump unless I know for sure it will pass Dolby Vision. My next 4k TV will most likely support it.
This is definitely not enough of a source, but from the Dolby Vision white paper:



I will try to find a more definitive source.
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Old 04-23-2016, 01:46 AM   #46
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Dolby Vision :: HDMI 1.4 :: (does not require either HDMI 2.0 or HDMI 2.0a) ::


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Do you have a source on this? I'm interested in buying a Pioneer VSX-90 but I'm not going to jump unless I know for sure it will pass Dolby Vision. My next 4k TV will most likely support it.
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Old 06-16-2016, 05:40 PM   #47
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June 16th, 2016 - Dolby Laboratories and Lionsgate Announce Collaboration to Bring Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos Content to the Home

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Dolby Laboratories, Inc. and Lionsgate today announced they are partnering to release a slate of Lionsgate new release and catalog titles mastered in Dolby Vision™ and mixed in Dolby AtmosŪ to offer a premium cinematic experience to the home entertainment market. As a result of this collaboration, consumers with Dolby Vision enabled televisions and Dolby Atmos enabled home theater products will be able to enjoy a broad spectrum of entertainment content from Lionsgate.
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Old 06-16-2016, 07:58 PM   #48
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Doesn't say Blu-ray specifically. Could be one of the streaming formats like Hulu.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:00 PM   #49
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HUNGER GAMES first up?
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:01 PM   #50
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From all my understanding you still need a Dolby Vision chip enabled UHD player besides the DV display. It even seems to indicate that intermediate step in the above diagram.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:34 PM   #51
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Doesn't say Blu-ray specifically. Could be one of the streaming formats like Hulu.
That's what I thought.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:38 PM   #52
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None of the streaming apps currently support lionsgate 4k movies, though eventually they could. But I suspect dolby vision blu rays are what we'll see.

The articles came out a month or 2 about dolby vision authoring tools for 4k bd being ready for distribution, so we might as well put 2 and 2 together. DV is coming whether the players are ready or not. The studios are future proofing themselves.
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Sept 13th, 2016 - @dkatzmaier

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Old 09-14-2016, 05:06 AM   #54
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Could be when we might start seeing the debut of Disney studio titles.
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Could be when we might start seeing the debut of Disney studio titles.
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Wow. 1st half 2017 for software and 2nd half 2017 for hardware is an awful long time.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:23 PM   #57
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I thought there were Dolby Vision titles up on Amazon Prime - I'm not seeing them (??)
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Are they gonna stop the 4k blurays then?
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so we will have HDR 4k disc release and DV 4k disc? Two different UHD releases to choose from?
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so we will have HDR 4k disc release and DV 4k disc? Two different UHD releases to choose from?
It depends on which HDR camp a particular studio chooses to go with.

Disney is definitely a big proponent of DV, so I would assume that's why they're taking their sweet time with UHD Blu-ray support. The time tables for release seem to match up fairly closely with the availability of DV discs and player products (and metadata supported version 2 of DV displays). Disney tends to start releasing first quarter discs around late February.

Sony is having internal struggles because they HDR grade in DV and they created the mastering software for DV on UHD Blu-ray, but their TV's don't currently support it. Perhaps because in that schizo company the right hand (the studio division) doesn't know what the left hand (the consumer division) is doing.

One possible reason why the Playstation "Pro" console doesn't have a UHD Blu-ray drive.

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