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Old 01-22-2020, 05:19 PM   #561
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Hi to all, I just made a fast check on italian 4k steelbook :
4K disc extendent cut lenght is 101:04
Audio Tracks are Italian and English both 5.1 DTS HD Master Audio
subtitles only italian
I check with english audio without subs and one scene with spanish dialogues have nothing burning on screen. I hope this help.
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Old 01-22-2020, 05:23 PM   #562
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Having watched both versions of this now it's got go be the extended cut for me, the prologue just adds so much more IMO.

Really can't see the German UHD having Eng subs for Spanish dialogue scenes, so looks as though it's the Aus BD for an Eng friendly ext version.

JB Hi-fi currently have 30% off so might as well do this now...
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Old 01-22-2020, 05:44 PM   #563
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Yeah I've just gone for the Aussie blu.
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Old 01-22-2020, 05:53 PM   #564
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Ordered the Ozzie Blu-ray a week ago as an addition to the US UHD-BD. And now it's 30% cheaper.
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Old 01-22-2020, 06:00 PM   #565
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Really can't see the German UHD having Eng subs for Spanish dialogue scenes
I wouldn't hold my breath just yet. Read the other day that "the" German BD, I think it was the Swiss Ascot Elite one to be precise, actually does - English subs for the Spanish dialogue with the English audio track. No word on the UHD and the Universum one in particular.


I for one bought the US one cheap, thought the movie sucked (or was extremely mediocre/disappointing to drop the hyperbole, kind of like the poor man's Taken) and won't bother anymore. The long version also won't fix any of the issues I have with this movie - IMO it basically just adds a pointless prologue.
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Old 01-22-2020, 06:05 PM   #566
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Hi to all, I just made a fast check on italian 4k steelbook :
4K disc extendent cut lenght is 101:04
Audio Tracks are Italian and English both 5.1 DTS HD Master Audio
subtitles only italian
I check with english audio without subs and one scene with spanish dialogues have nothing burning on screen. I hope this help.
But we can at least watch with no subs at all? Having already seen it a few times, the Spanish is minimal and easy enough to intuit.

If there's a UHD I can just turn subs OFF for, I'm cool with that. Anyone know the options for that?
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Old 01-22-2020, 06:18 PM   #567
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I rewatched this a couple times over the weekend with family in town, since it was one of the few things they hadn't seen that I knew they could get into.

I think the movie went from just "OK" to I actually kinda like it. It's pretty satisfying. Not quite 2008 tier, but it's well above an Escape Plan in production value even though it doesn't have the best CG or the most artful approach. I also think it's worthy subject matter and emotionally affecting. Home Alone Rambo actually is dope and old Sly is way better than any other ageing leading males in recent memory, imo. The character deserved to
[Show spoiler]find something worth dying for.


It's visually a damn fine UHD too, that I think I undersold it with my day 1 impressions. Now I really just want to get my hands on that extended cut.
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Old 01-22-2020, 07:39 PM   #568
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But we can at least watch with no subs at all? Having already seen it a few times, the Spanish is minimal and easy enough to intuit.

If there's a UHD I can just turn subs OFF for, I'm cool with that. Anyone know the options for that?
I will watch without subs, ever I like movies with original track
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But we can at least watch with no subs at all? Having already seen it a few times, the Spanish is minimal and easy enough to intuit.

If there's a UHD I can just turn subs OFF for, I'm cool with that. Anyone know the options for that?
Nope. It's about 3 scenes with Spanish speaking parts and the subs are burned into the scene with the language you are watching.

Holding out hope for the German one but it doesn't look good.
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Old 01-22-2020, 08:08 PM   #570
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Nope. It's about 3 scenes with Spanish speaking parts and the subs are burned into the scene with the language you are watching.

Holding out hope for the German one but it doesn't look good.
So not even the aforementioned Italian one lets you pick no subs at all?
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Nope. It's about 3 scenes with Spanish speaking parts and the subs are burned into the scene with the language you are watching.

Holding out hope for the German one but it doesn't look good.
The German disc won't have burned-in English subs.
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Old 01-22-2020, 11:00 PM   #572
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Having watched both versions of this now it's got go be the extended cut for me, the prologue just adds so much more IMO.

Really can't see the German UHD having Eng subs for Spanish dialogue scenes, so looks as though it's the Aus BD for an Eng friendly ext version.

JB Hi-fi currently have 30% off so might as well do this now...
Including shipping from JB Hi-fi, the Blu comes to about £15. I can never remember if the postage counts towards the total for customs or if it’s just the item’s price, but if customs does include the postage then this might get hit, annoyingly.
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If they're making it this hard to get a hold of the extended cut, then just download it. No idea why both weren't on the UK/US discs in the first place. They should be happy people even still buy physical media without doing awkward things like this. ⁷

It was like when Ralph Breaks the Internet 3D was only realesed in Japan and folks were paying like £50 to import it. Crazy.
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Including shipping from JB Hi-fi, the Blu comes to about £15. I can never remember if the postage counts towards the total for customs or if itís just the itemís price, but if customs does include the postage then this might get hit, annoyingly.
Yeah, the BD comes to £15 and the 4K comes in at just over £17, I've never been hit by customs from JB but I haven't ordered from them for a good while.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:29 AM   #575
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Including shipping from JB Hi-fi, the Blu comes to about £15. I can never remember if the postage counts towards the total for customs or if it’s just the item’s price, but if customs does include the postage then this might get hit, annoyingly.
It the item's value (=its price) exceeds a certain amount (here is 22 Euro), customs duties and VAT will apply to price+postage (that's how It works here in Italy).
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Even if a disc doesn't necessarily let you switch off or on specific subtitles, often the player will be able to manipulate sub/audio options for you. This doesn't help if what you're looking for isn't actually on the disc..

My Italian version has been shipped. i'll report my findings..
The DTS 5.1 might not be that bad. My setup does an amazing job with DTS Neo X up scaling audio to the overheads/rears etc.

Do any Asian territories have a 4k disc??
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Do any Asian territories have a 4k disc??
Nope, nothing so far.
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At this point I’ve given up hope on scene-specific English subs. I just want the extended cut on 4K with no forced subs of any kind.
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Has anybody seen a 4K release available from Hong Kong? Yesasia has a listing for the Blu-ray which runs for 101 minutes but no 4k listing. I thought Hong Kong might be a good bet for English subtitles on the Spanish bits.
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Has anybody seen a 4K release available from Hong Kong? Yesasia has a listing for the Blu-ray which runs for 101 minutes but no 4k listing. I thought Hong Kong might be a good bet for English subtitles on the Spanish bits.
Nope, but that if that BD has English subs it'll be a good choice for US viewers who want the EC and don't have region-free players. It's somewhat bizarre (and a bit lucky for me) that Australia/NZ is the only primarily English-speaking territory where it was released.

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