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Old 01-18-2020, 02:07 AM   #21
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Wait...what, Spartacus is with Criterion? Are those jackholes the reason why that stunning 4K resto hasn't been released on 4K disc yet?
how did that revert back to Criterion? since the prior bluray WAS a Universal release.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:07 AM   #22
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It's not a title that's already been released on UHD. It's a title that's been released by Universal on Blu.
I see. Well that could be anything. I don't really think I'll be interested in Universals dregs they wanna palm off
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:10 AM   #23
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I preordered Hannibal and thought it was an amazing disc, and was shattered when they decided to drop the Dollars Trilogy in 4K

I preordered Hannibal from KL, Suspiria from Synapse, Cobra from Discotek, and still need to get Tammy and the T Rex from VinSyn.

I can foresee that much like with blu Ray, overtime itíll be the independants picking up the slack with 4K catalogue titles, and Iíll do anything I can to support their jump to 4K.

Canít wait to see what Kino puts out in 4K next
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:15 AM   #24
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what's wrong with the current UHD of 'King Kong' ??

Oblivion could be rectified by encoding the Dolby Vision transfer onto disc.

'Dante's Peak' in Dolby Atmos !!
I saw that edit... FWIW And the answer is it could be better (and its an anniversary year). I very specifically thought of titles relating to likelihood to release again but it had not been spelled out it wasn't re-released on 4K UHD, merely blu-ray. So this is all moot.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:20 AM   #25
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I see. Well that could be anything. I don't really think I'll be interested in Universals dregs they wanna palm off
Dregs they’ve licensed out like The Thing, An American Werewolf in London, Inglorious Basterds, The Wolf of Wall Street, Army of Darkness, Brazil... Studios license out great movies all the time.

Besides, we already know it’s a title Universal found worth releasing themselves.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:20 AM   #26
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I preordered Hannibal and thought it was an amazing disc, and was shattered when they decided to drop the Dollars Trilogy in 4K

I preordered Hannibal from KL, Suspiria from Synapse, Cobra from Discotek, and still need to get Tammy and the T Rex from VinSyn.

I can foresee that much like with blu Ray, overtime itíll be the independants picking up the slack with 4K catalogue titles, and Iíll do anything I can to support their jump to 4K.

Canít wait to see what Kino puts out in 4K next
That's pretty much the best case scenario for 4K catalogue stuff, but some of the biggest indies don't want to go near it and there are no signs of that changing in 2020. Will the format survive for long enough to become properly viable for those indies? Dunno.

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how did that revert back to Criterion? since the prior bluray WAS a Universal release.
It was indeed, but Criterion can still license something while Uni have their version in print e.g. Breakfast Club. Of all the titles that people mention as being slam dunks for a Criterion 4K debut, Spartacus would be the daddy of them all. Wouldn't even need any extra grading or restoration work, just release it in 4K SDR and it'd still look absolutely stunning.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:21 AM   #27
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Wait...what, Spartacus is with Criterion? Are those jackholes the reason why that stunning 4K resto hasn't been released on 4K disc yet?
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how did that revert back to Criterion? since the prior bluray WAS a Universal release.
The Criterion DVD is, surprisingly to me, still in-print so I can presume that they probably have boutique rights to the Blu and they do have a tendency to renew the rights for films that have no future Blu in sight (Pickup on South Street, Thieves Highway, Unfaithfully Yours etc).

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I see. Well that could be anything. I don't really think I'll be interested in Universals dregs they wanna palm off
If any of those "dregs" include "The Frighteners", "Mallrats", "Out of Sight", or "The Producers" (hey, I can dream can't I?) then I'll take the whole lot.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:22 AM   #28
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If any of those "dregs" include "The Frighteners", "Mallrats", "Out of Sight", or "The Producers" (hey, I can dream can't I?) then I'll take the whole lot.
Frighteners would be the balls, as would Out of Sight knowing how mad Soderbergh is for 4K HDR.
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Old 01-18-2020, 02:25 AM   #29
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What if the 4K is The Wolfman (2010)? I could see them sticking to horror, and if they get both cuts on there it could be fun!
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What if it's another Hannibal Lecter movie?
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:04 AM   #31
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What if it's another Hannibal Lecter movie?
**** dude, don't say that. Don't say it's Red Dragon because I want to actually support Kino's UHD adventure, not dump it straight into the bin.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:06 AM   #32
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Yeah, I want to support all of Kino’s UHD ventures, but no way in hell am I buying ****ing Red Dragon.
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:08 AM   #33
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Yeah, I want to support all of Kino’s UHD ventures, but no way in hell am I buying ****ing Red Dragon.
My nightmare is buying it, watching it and actually enjoying it. Don't make me do it Kino, you evil bastards! (Though a cool side-effect might be that it lights a fire under StudioCanal to remaster Manhunter in 4K.)
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Old 01-18-2020, 03:21 AM   #34
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**** dude, don't say that. Don't say it's Red Dragon because I want to actually support Kino's UHD adventure, not dump it straight into the bin.
I guess I've been spared - I haven't seen 'Red Dragon'
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Old 01-18-2020, 05:47 AM   #35
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Gonna take a wild guess that the Kino UHD of a more recent Universal titles is Children of Men. There’s a few reasons for it.

First, according to IMDB, despite being from 2006, it apparently was completed with a 4K DI. So it’s already got a 4K Master to begin with.
Second, it already has another indie label release- Arrow in the UK already released it on 1080p BD, so it seems likely that Universal may be okay with another label releasing it.
Third, as in the requirements, Universal hasn’t released it on 4K UHD already. That said, despite Caurůn’s more recent successful films like Gravity and Roma, I don’t see Universal re-releasing it any time soon, due to no anniversaries coming up (other than the 15th in 2021) and it not having been a box office hit (it didn’t even make the budget back- $75m budget, $70m sales).

But I could be wrong. I also think Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a possibility, though Criterion may snatch it up.
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Old 01-18-2020, 01:14 PM   #36
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I'd be down for that too.
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I like Red Dragon enough to own the one sheet of it.

I like it more than Hannibal. Manhunter? No, but with Hopkins involved it pairs with the other films much better. Manhunter is too stylish compared to Silence of the Lambs.
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Red Dragon would be like, the only film I wouldnít buy to support KLís UHDs lol
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It's not like Kino picked a knockout winner with Hannibal either. What the f--k were they thinking???
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It's not like Kino picked a knockout winner with Hannibal either. What the f--k were they thinking???
$350 million box office, enormous DVD hit, a franchise that seems to keep kicking, stylish visuals that'd really shine in 4K/HDR, a DP who's still around to give it his blessing... I mean, I’m no great fan, but I can see the appeal on Kino Lorber’s side. It’s one of the most high profile titles they’ve released. Remember the speculation threads about other MGM titles Kino Lorber could’ve been targeting? The pickings were pretty slim when you’re talking about movies that’d make the biggest impact.
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