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Old 12-11-2008, 02:31 AM   #1
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Default Home recorded Blu-ray disc compatibility

If I use a Blu Ray burner (like the LG Black GGW-H20L) to produce a Blu-Ray disc, will the disc play on my home system (Panasonic DMP-BD35)? Every review of any Blu-Ray burner I've read on the Newegg website focuses on compatibility with the PC and accompanying Monitor (mainly due to HDCP). I don't plan on watching Blu-Ray movies on a PC screen when I have a Pioneer Kuro plasma screen in the next room. One reviewer wrote how he hooked up his Burner/Player directly to his TV set, but is this necessary? My Panasonic DMP-BD35 (Blu-Ray player) manual states that it supports user recorded BD-RE in Version 3 of the BD-RE Recording Format and JPEG format, plus BD-R in Version 2 of the BD-R Recording Format. Am I good-to-go here, or stranded with a PC setup to view the recorded media? I really appreciate the knowledgeable advise (the Customer Service Tech Staff at LG couldn't even answer this question with any certainty).

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Old 02-24-2009, 03:25 AM   #2
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Default The key is "authoring"....

So you have the burner and you can buy BD-R and BD-RE media. What you are missing is something to edit with.....and something to put the edited stuff in a form that playes on a player or PS3.

I was editing in HD using PremierePro2 with the Cineform AspectHD product before authoring products came out. The first and the one I still use is Roxio DVDitPro HD

http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/dv.../overview.html

While the software that came with your burner can make a disc in the UDF 2.5 format such things require, it is authoring software that makes a "BDMV" project, complete with menus and the few "legal" streams BluRay players require.

There are other products, but here is the forum for this one

http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showforum=120
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:36 AM   #3
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If I use a Blu Ray burner (like the LG Black GGW-H20L) to produce a Blu-Ray disc, will the disc play on my home system (Panasonic DMP-BD35)? Every review of any Blu-Ray burner I've read on the Newegg website focuses on compatibility with the PC and accompanying Monitor (mainly due to HDCP). I don't plan on watching Blu-Ray movies on a PC screen when I have a Pioneer Kuro plasma screen in the next room. One reviewer wrote how he hooked up his Burner/Player directly to his TV set, but is this necessary? My Panasonic DMP-BD35 (Blu-Ray player) manual states that it supports user recorded BD-RE in Version 3 of the BD-RE Recording Format and JPEG format, plus BD-R in Version 2 of the BD-R Recording Format. Am I good-to-go here, or stranded with a PC setup to view the recorded media? I really appreciate the knowledgeable advise (the Customer Service Tech Staff at LG couldn't even answer this question with any certainty).

Thanks ..........rpdpnp
how are you dumping the content in Hardrive
by camcorder to cpu or blura mini discs to cpu

is your camcorder records as Avchd format if its does all you need to is try playing as avchd disc if it doesn't work
try run the content Thru Tsmuxer make output to bluray strucuture
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Old 08-14-2009, 06:19 PM   #4
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Default Capturing

The setup I had then and still have is an HDV camcorder capturing via firewire thru Adobe Premiere Pro CS2 (With Cineform AspectHD).

Next year I'll to a big upgrade to use inexpensive solid state AVCHD cameras. Since they are 1080x1920 and Aspect doesnt go that high, I'll upgrade to Cineform ProspectHD.

There are other alternatives if you are starting from scratch.
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:36 PM   #5
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Another option, if you BD player supports it, is save or convert video to AVCHD format then burn that file on a DVD disk.

Since BD disks cost $6-12 each, for 25 & 50GB disks respectively, and DVD9 costs $1 each, it would cost you $6-7 for ~50 GB of data spanning 5-6 disks, if you filled it completely. But even commercial movie disks are seldom filled completely, so you can save a bunch using DVD disks instead depending on how much data you do have to save, and weigh that over the inconvenience of swapping so many disks.

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Old 10-25-2009, 02:58 AM   #6
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Another option, if you BD player supports it, is save or convert video to AVCHD format then burn that file on a DVD disk.

Since BD disks cost $6-12 each, for 25 & 50GB disks respectively, and DVD9 costs $1 each, it would cost you $6-7 for ~50 GB of data spanning 5-6 disks, if you filled it completely. But even commercial movie disks are seldom filled completely, so you can save a bunch using DVD disks instead depending on how much data you do have to save, and weigh that over the inconvenience of swapping so many disks.
But don't DVD's have a much lower bitrate maximum than Blu-Ray? If I remember correctly DVD's top out at about 10mb/s, in comparison blu-ray's can do about 40mb/s.

At 10mb/s you'd be getting fake HD.
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:32 AM   #7
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But don't DVD's have a much lower bitrate maximum than Blu-Ray? If I remember correctly DVD's top out at about 10mb/s, in comparison blu-ray's can do about 40mb/s.

At 10mb/s you'd be getting fake HD.
Yes, they do, not 10mb/s though but 18 while blu-ray supports 24mb/s, quite a difference! So, AVCHD dvd's are not really an option if your camera bit steam is more than 18mb/s

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Old 12-29-2009, 03:26 PM   #8
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I'm basically wanting to create a dvd from the home recorded video on my HD campcorder. I have a HG20 Cannon HD camcorder, I take a 10 minute video off and put it on the computer. I convert (tsmuxer) the m2ts to a certified/bd folders. I take those two folders and either use Nero ROM or IMGBurn and burn the AVCHD dvdr disk. I take this disk to the blueray player and it looks great, sounds great, BUT ever 5 seconds the video pauses for maybe a half second. How can I fix this? Thanks
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:00 PM   #9
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where are the blu-ray recorders ?DMR-BS850
like http://reviews.cnet.com/dvd-players/...-31899305.html

or this 3d recorder «

Panasonic Diga DMR-BWT3000 Blu-ray 3D Recorders
Panasonic DMR-BS750 Blu-ray Recorder

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Old 03-18-2010, 07:44 PM   #10
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Here is how I do it.

1. I bought Pinnacle Studio (the latest version 14).

2. I load all my HD from my camcorder to my computer using Pinnacle to "capture" it. (this is from my Canon HV20)

3. I edit (add menus, music etc)

4. I burn this as an AVC-HD disk (on a DVD).

These AVCHD disks even have menu's, etc. It's full HD, just a little less sharp than straight out of my camera. It plays in my PS3 and also on the Sony 350/360 and I've played them on the Panny 30.

Since it's AVC codec, the bitrate is smaller than HDV but looks great ( it runs around 13mb a sec.

This will fit around 40 min of video on a DVD or if your video is longer, you can go with a Dual Layer DVD (they run about $1 for dual layers DVD's ).

This is the cheapest (and easiest) route in my opinion.

I got Pinnacle studio for $30 (upgrade) and it looks like you can get it for $50 new from their website.
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Old 05-12-2010, 05:00 PM   #11
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I also started recording AVCHD files with a Canon HF200. My computer can't handle much editing, so for the last month and going forward for the short term, I'm basically just storing them on the Computer and or SD cards. Once I do get a newer computer I'll be wanting to burn discs and everywhere I read there is a new opinion on them. Sure I'd love a BD burner, and eventually I'll go there (and that's why I'm recording only in full 1920x1080 either at 17 or 24 MBps which I can always scale down) but the AVCHD to DVD sounds like a great plan since most of the people I'd be sharing this with have a Blu player capable (suposedly) of this type of HD playback.

Could a few more people chime in on what they use for making the DVDs? the software that came with my camera (Pixela) looks like it will, but never has worked right on my computer (possibly not its fault, its an XP machine custom built from 2003 as a gaming rig (so it at least has a nice vid and sound card) with 1 gig of Ram). Also, looking forward to someone answering the above post about the "skipping" every 5 seconds.
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:04 PM   #12
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Default Burn AVCHD MXP files on a blu-ray disc?

After a 16-month gap in this thread, technology has advanced, and I have a follow-up question. (I read through the entire thread.)

Is there any way I can get AVCHD files that were recorded in MXP mode (24Mb/s) on a Canon HF S10 to burn on a blu-ray disc, for playback on most blu-ray players (such as PS3)?

I'd like to do this both for 1) quick and easy backup of the AVCHD files and 2) playback of unedited footage.

I know I can burn AVCHD to DVD discs, but I want to burn them to blu-ray discs because the DVD capacity isn't high enough (and DVD bitrate of 18Mb/s is not sufficient for MXP). I'm about to buy a blu-ray burner.

What software can I use? I have both Mac and Win7. Would Pixela Video Tools do this (on Win)? What would work on Mac (as I would prefer to use the Mac)?
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:03 AM   #13
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the included pixela software, though very deficient for many things, will do this assuming you have the hardware (bluray burner, discs). As you mentioned, burning a DVD (even in AVCHD mode) will only go up to 17 or 18MBps. In fact, I have the Canon HF200 and mostly film in FXP because i generally make AVCHD dvds for playing in my blu-ray player. My MXP files downconvert when burning that sort of disc. Blu shouldn't though.

There are other software packages...plenty actually...that will do what you say. I haven't done much with them as I have such an old PC I don't want to waste free trials and time until I upgrade which hopefully will be soon.
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:09 AM   #14
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Is the GGW-H20L Bluray PC recorder 3d compatible?
i.e If I play a commercial 3D bluray disc in it, will it output to a compatible 3D screen using HDMI 1.4?

THank you
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