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Old 09-07-2022, 03:43 AM   #1
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Default The best 43" 4K TV right now?

As the title says...

A 43" is the biggest display I can fit in my studio apartment. I tried a TCL 4 Series, but the speakers were tinny and I found the TV screen darker than I preferred.

Looking at a Vizio V-Series, but not sure if I should wait for the forthcoming "2023" models, or get a current "2022" model.

Also open to Hisense or Insignia, though I've been warned off of Toshibas. Soundbar isn't an option, as my neighbors would complain.
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As the title says...

A 43" is the biggest display I can fit in my studio apartment. I tried a TCL 4 Series, but the speakers were tinny and I found the TV screen darker than I preferred.

Looking at a Vizio V-Series, but not sure if I should wait for the forthcoming "2023" models, or get a current "2022" model.

Also open to Hisense or Insignia, though I've been warned off of Toshibas. Soundbar isn't an option, as my neighbors would complain.
2022 Samsung QN90B 43"

2022 LG C2 OLED 42"
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As the title says...

A 43" is the biggest display I can fit in my studio apartment. I tried a TCL 4 Series, but the speakers were tinny and I found the TV screen darker than I preferred.

Looking at a Vizio V-Series, but not sure if I should wait for the forthcoming "2023" models, or get a current "2022" model.

Also open to Hisense or Insignia, though I've been warned off of Toshibas. Soundbar isn't an option, as my neighbors would complain.
The 2023 models of all brand new TVs are going to cost more because they're new. The 2022 or older TVs will be the cheapest. If you can wait until the end of November- December, there will be some good deals on TVs for Black Friday through Christmas. If I were in the market to buy a new TV, I would wait a couple more months.
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Old 09-08-2022, 03:33 AM   #4
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Since you posted this in the LCD thread, I'm guessing you're not interested in an OLED. In that case the Samsung QN90B is the best TV you can get.
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I'm actually in the same boat, but I'm getting confused by all the options. I've got total light control in the room, so that's never an issue. Considering I'm using my TV for movies and occasional streaming only, I've managed to narrow it down to these three:

Sony - 42" class BRAVIA XR A90K 4K HDR OLED Google TV
LG - 42" Class C2 Series OLED evo 4K UHD Smart webOS TV
Samsung - 43 Class QN90B Neo QLED 4K Smart Tizen TV

How the heck is $1000 now the entry point? It's kind of nuts. Does anyone have any experience with these?
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Old 10-01-2022, 07:24 PM   #6
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I'm actually in the same boat, but I'm getting confused by all the options. I've got total light control in the room, so that's never an issue. Considering I'm using my TV for movies and occasional streaming only, I've managed to narrow it down to these three:

Sony - 42" class BRAVIA XR A90K 4K HDR OLED Google TV
LG - 42" Class C2 Series OLED evo 4K UHD Smart webOS TV
Samsung - 43 Class QN90B Neo QLED 4K Smart Tizen TV

How the heck is $1000 now the entry point? It's kind of nuts. Does anyone have any experience with these?
The demand for small screen TVs has probably dropped significantly making the remaining options more expensive. The emphasis is on ever larger screen sizes.
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The demand for small screen TVs has probably dropped significantly making the remaining options more expensive. The emphasis is on ever larger screen sizes.
Tell that to my 60" wall space!
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Tell that to my 60" wall space!
I would tell it that there are a whole slew of options in the 55" screen size. Many of which are very competitively priced.
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Old 10-03-2022, 10:25 PM   #9
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@Spooked, good timing, just today Sony's 42A90K and the 48A90K are on promotion for $1,249 and $1,299 respectfully.

All prices include delivery to your home and they are in stock.
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@Spooked, good timing, just today Sony's 42A90K and the 48A90K are on promotion for $1,249 and $1,299 respectfully.

All prices include delivery to your home and they are in stock.
Thanks, Robert!
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Old 10-04-2022, 01:50 PM   #11
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Just pulled the trigger this morning on the 48" Bravia XR A90K direct from Sony. Required a little "joint financing", but Christmas has come early!

(I may or may not be moonwalking on Cloud 9 right now.) Hopefully this feeling will still be with me when it arrives and I find myself trying to set it up. It's been 8 years since I've set up a television, and it was confusing as Hell back then.

I really appreciate all your help, guys. Thank you!

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Just pulled the trigger this morning on the 48" Bravia XR A90K direct from Sony. Required a little "joint financing", but Christmas has come early!

(I may or may not be moonwalking on Cloud 9 right now.) Hopefully this feeling will still be with me when it arrives and I find myself trying to set it up. It's been 8 years since I've set up a television, and it was confusing as Hell back then.

I really appreciate all your help, guys. Thank you!
Nice call. A distinct bump on its relation, the A80K.

Me? I may have coal in my stocking. Thinking X85K 43" for a small room.
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Nice call. A distinct bump on its relation, the A80K.

Me? I may have coal in my stocking. Thinking X85K 43" for a small room.
Well hopefully not. (Regarding the coal. )

But the X85K certainly isn't a slouch, either. It's actually surprisingly hard to find a high-quality television under 50" any more. I think we're all spoiled.
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Old 10-06-2022, 05:21 PM   #14
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idk why the high end smaller TVs are so close in price compared to their 55 inch versions. You think they would be alot cheaper than they actually are
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Does anyone have an opinion about the upscaling and tuners on the current Sony UHD LEDs? I like watching a few over-the-air TV channels that are only available in standard definition.

I was thinking of getting the 43-inch version of the Sony X85K, which costs about $600 on sale, as my main TV for a small 1-bedroom apartment. Even if I had room for one, I don't want a larger TV because of the weight. I want to be able to move the TV on my own easily. My present main TV has a 32-inch screen, so even a 43-inch screen is a substantial upgrade.

Why an LED TV instead of an OLED TV? Even a small OLED TV costs more than I'm willing to spend at this time. Also, I watch far more hours of TV than UHD movies. Plus, I'll be viewing in a well-lit room, not in the dark.
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Does anyone have an opinion about the upscaling and tuners on the current Sony UHD LEDs? I like watching a few over-the-air TV channels that are only available in standard definition.
I watch SD OTA TV on my X900H sometimes and I wouldn't say it is very good. Then again, I'm not sure it would look better if I had a different brand of TV since Sony's upscaling is said to be very good.

With regards to the tuner, I have an old Sony LCD that is also connected for over-the-air and the reception on that one is noticeably better than the one on my X900H. There are times when one channel won't work on the newer TV but shows up without any problems on the older one. Sometimes the signal will periodically drop out too. This seems to happen more on channels that are HD rather than SD.

I'm not trying to dissuade you from a Sony TV but those are my experiences. I barely watch any OTA TV so it's not a dealbreaker for me and if I was in the market for a new TV right now I'd get a Sony one without hesitation. I don't have any experience with recent TVs from other brands. I'm not even sure if there have been any reviews done on the capability of the tuner for newer TVs.
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Does anyone have an opinion about the upscaling and tuners on the current Sony UHD LEDs? I like watching a few over-the-air TV channels that are only available in standard definition.

I was thinking of getting the 43-inch version of the Sony X85K, which costs about $600 on sale, as my main TV for a small 1-bedroom apartment. Even if I had room for one, I don't want a larger TV because of the weight. I want to be able to move the TV on my own easily. My present main TV has a 32-inch screen, so even a 43-inch screen is a substantial upgrade.

Why an LED TV instead of an OLED TV? Even a small OLED TV costs more than I'm willing to spend at this time. Also, I watch far more hours of TV than UHD movies. Plus, I'll be viewing in a well-lit room, not in the dark.
When Sony announced its 2023 lineup, X80L TVs were on the list but the X85 series was discontinued. I didn't want to wait for clearance pricing and risk losing out, so I went ahead and bought the 43-inch version of the Sony X85K.

It has a good digital tuner. All the channels available in my location are watchable, even the low-power broadcasters, although that may change when the trees leaf out. I can also watch all 3 local ATSC 3.0 HD channels.

UHD Blu-ray and 4K video streamed from YouTube look great. Upscaling is good too, although there are some bit-rate-starved SD digital channels that look very blocky and blurry.

I used settings posted on AVS Forums for the X85K to adjust the TV's white balance using a compatible replacement remote for the X85J that has numeric buttons,

After calibration, as expected with a VA panel, colors look true and black looks black when viewing directly in front of the screen but both fade with off-angle viewing.
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When Sony announced its 2023 lineup, X80L TVs were on the list but the X85 series was discontinued. I didn't want to wait for clearance pricing and risk losing out, so I went ahead and bought the 43-inch version of the Sony X85K.

It has a good digital tuner. All the channels available in my location are watchable, even the low-power broadcasters, although that may change when the trees leaf out. I can also watch all 3 local ATSC 3.0 HD channels.

UHD Blu-ray and 4K video streamed from YouTube look great. Upscaling is good too, although there are some bit-rate-starved SD digital channels that look very blocky and blurry.

I used settings posted on AVS Forums for the X85K to adjust the TV's white balance using a compatible replacement remote for the X85J that has numeric buttons,

After calibration, as expected with a VA panel, colors look true and black looks black when viewing directly in front of the screen but both fade with off-angle viewing.
Thanks for the update. I don't suppose turning Motion Smoothing off is any easier on this Sony TV, is it? That's one of my primary gripes with my Sony A90K (Aside from the fact that I sprung for a size up and now regret it. Bigger is not better when you have a limited ability to lift things.).

Regardless, I really hope you enjoy your new TV!
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Thanks for the update. I don't suppose turning Motion Smoothing off is any easier on this Sony TV, is it? That's one of my primary gripes with my Sony A90K (Aside from the fact that I sprung for a size up and now regret it. Bigger is not better when you have a limited ability to lift things.).

Regardless, I really hope you enjoy your new TV!
The A90K is a beautiful TV and got good reviews. I might have bought one myself if it wasn't so expensive. However, I am enjoying my TV although I sometimes wish the optimum viewing angle was less narrow

I *think* I turned off the Motion Smoothing setting but left the anti-judder feature alone. (The 120Hz panel allows the X85K to eliminate judder on most sources.) However, I never had a TV with either feature before so I am not sure that I was successful.

I have some damaged joints and could barely lift my TV by myself even though it weighs under 30 pounds, so I understand
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When Sony announced its 2023 lineup, X80L TVs were on the list but the X85 series was discontinued. I didn't want to wait for clearance pricing and risk losing out, so I went ahead and bought the 43-inch version of the Sony X85K.

It has a good digital tuner. All the channels available in my location are watchable, even the low-power broadcasters, although that may change when the trees leaf out. I can also watch all 3 local ATSC 3.0 HD channels.

UHD Blu-ray and 4K video streamed from YouTube look great. Upscaling is good too, although there are some bit-rate-starved SD digital channels that look very blocky and blurry.

I used settings posted on AVS Forums for the X85K to adjust the TV's white balance using a compatible replacement remote for the X85J that has numeric buttons,

After calibration, as expected with a VA panel, colors look true and black looks black when viewing directly in front of the screen but both fade with off-angle viewing.
You made a good choice, all things considered. Enjoy.

I don't see things improving. It's disheartening how Sony's dropped the 40s from better model lines.

They don't seem to understand that newer living accommodation for many means smaller rooms. Maybe marketing miscalculation is one of the reasons kids are watching movies on phones.
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