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Old 07-22-2019, 05:34 AM   #661
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the BDP-S6700 (4K Upscaling of Non-4k Discs) feature worth over the BDP1700 ???

BDP-S6700 $209
BDP1700 $140
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Old 07-22-2019, 05:48 AM   #662
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For DVDs, no. For Blu-rays, yes. Helpful tip: 220 Electronics offers the same region free players on eBay for a lower price. The model you mentioned is $99 (no tax or shipping), and it is already region free. I bought this exact one for my office in December.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-BDP-S1...frcectupt=true
yes $99 but Refurbished
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:13 PM   #663
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the BDP-S6700 (4K Upscaling of Non-4k Discs) feature worth over the BDP1700 ???

BDP-S6700 $209
BDP1700 $140
Given that a 4K TV will upscale the signal, isn't a 4k upscaling feature on the player redundant?
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:17 PM   #664
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I don't get it! the Sony BDP1700 price is just $50 brand new on ebay!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-BDP-S1...Condition=1000

is not easy to make it region free? via software or something? there's no easy hack or something?

why WE need pay $140 to 220-electronics! ? they hack adding a solding chip or? what's the magic behind that cost $90 more! ?
My understanding is that they hardware modify the players to be region free, meaning you can still hook your player up to the internet to use web apps, and get any updates the manufacturer releases for the firmware. If a player is software modded, only, and a firmware update is made, that "hack" can be wiped out, meaning you're essentially back to a regular old region "A" player.

I've spent in the neighborhood of $15,000 on my blu-ray collection. More and more, I am importing. Currently I play region "B" and "C" discs on my laptop. It will be totally worth it, to me, to spend a mere $40 more when I grab my hardware modified player for the peace of mind that comes with knowing I'll never have any issues playing whatever I want.
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:29 AM   #665
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Given that a 4K TV will upscale the signal, isn't a 4k upscaling feature on the player redundant?
Good question!
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:38 AM   #666
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My understanding is that they hardware modify the players to be region free, meaning you can still hook your player up to the internet to use web apps, and get any updates the manufacturer releases for the firmware. If a player is software modded, only, and a firmware update is made, that "hack" can be wiped out, meaning you're essentially back to a regular old region "A" player.

I've spent in the neighborhood of $15,000 on my blu-ray collection. More and more, I am importing. Currently I play region "B" and "C" discs on my laptop. It will be totally worth it, to me, to spend a mere $40 more when I grab my hardware modified player for the peace of mind that comes with knowing I'll never have any issues playing whatever I want.
Yes, after all I agree, it worth.

Right now I rip my region B movies (.mkv) on my computer to watch on my TV, and I hate it... I just want put a disc on a player and press play and that is, so yes, it worth if they do it via hardware and with the freedom to make updates, firmware etc.
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:41 AM   #667
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I ask for the Sony X800M2 on 220-Electronics

We are not sure exactly when it will be listed on our website, however the is now available and the cost is $449.00. If you would like to purchase please give us a call and you can order over the phone.

So, $150 more than the "normal" amazon price.
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:50 PM   #668
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I don't get it! the Sony BDP1700 price is just $50 brand new on ebay!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-BDP-S1...Condition=1000

is not easy to make it region free? via software or something? there's no easy hack or something?

why WE need pay $140 to 220-electronics! ? they hack adding a solding chip or? what's the magic behind that cost $90 more! ?
The answer is -- no there isn't a way to make it region free by software or easy code entry hack. Very few US machines are Bluray hackable by software or code entry like DVD players used to be and Sony's were among the most difficult even in the DVD days and many of the US units lacked PAL-NtSC conversion ability.

220 is a firmware stable hardware modded unit which likely does involve soldering new chips onto the board.

Is the 4k upscaling worth much -- probably not.
Is the 3D ability of the 6700 vs 1700 worth something -- depends on the customer.
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Old 07-23-2019, 09:32 PM   #669
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The answer is -- no there isn't a way to make it region free by software or easy code entry hack. Very few US machines are Bluray hackable by software or code entry like DVD players used to be and Sony's were among the most difficult even in the DVD days and many of the US units lacked PAL-NtSC conversion ability.

220 is a firmware stable hardware modded unit which likely does involve soldering new chips onto the board.

Is the 4k upscaling worth much -- probably not.
Is the 3D ability of the 6700 vs 1700 worth something -- depends on the customer.
Is the 4k upscaling worth much -- probably not.
why?
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Old 07-24-2019, 08:00 PM   #670
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I'm going to buy one, I'm between this two:

BDP-S6700 $209
BDP1700 $140

$69 difference.

I save $69? or take the the 4K Upscaling, worth? I have tons of DVDs...

I don't care about ps3 gaming or smart netflix bla bla, I already have an apple tv.

I found this response in other forum: "If you don't have a 4K projector or TV, then 4K upscaling in the player is irrelevant. It just has to be downscaled back down to 1080p if your projector even has the ability to do that"

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Old 07-25-2019, 11:35 PM   #671
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Question (which I've also posted in the X700 thread): I know it's an extreme long shot, but is the Sony UBP-X700 natively region free? The reason I ask is because I bought Anchor Bay's 2003 twofer of Alligator (1980) and Alligator II: The Mutation (1991), the latter one of the seemingly endless American films that can't seem to get a domestic release (even if it isn't a classic by any means). Anywho, I had planned on ordering some stuff to make my player region free, but just to amuse myself I put the first disc in to see what would happen. Much to my surprise, the disc loaded up just fine. I played the movie and skipped through the chapters and audio options just to make sure it wasn't some kind of weird bait and switch. I then did the same with the second disc. Everything I've ever read about this set has had the region coding as 2, so the disc SHOULDN'T have worked, right?

This is the DVD: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101309...r/rm1260483072
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Old 07-26-2019, 12:46 AM   #672
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Question (which I've also posted in the X700 thread): I know it's an extreme long shot, but is the Sony UBP-X700 natively region free? The reason I ask is because I bought Anchor Bay's 2003 twofer of Alligator (1980) and Alligator II: The Mutation (1991), the latter one of the seemingly endless American films that can't seem to get a domestic release (even if it isn't a classic by any means). Anywho, I had planned on ordering some stuff to make my player region free, but just to amuse myself I put the first disc in to see what would happen. Much to my surprise, the disc loaded up just fine. I played the movie and skipped through the chapters and audio options just to make sure it wasn't some kind of weird bait and switch. I then did the same with the second disc. Everything I've ever read about this set has had the region coding as 2, so the disc SHOULDN'T have worked, right?

This is the DVD: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101309...r/rm1260483072
As far as I'm aware no BD or UHD is Region free natively.

Do you have another plain DVD or BD player to try? It could be a R0 PAL disc which the Sony UHD can play, but PS3 and most older Sonys couldn't (PS4 probably would play it).

Some cheaper labels may not have always locked their discs the way they were supposed to, many Bootleg discs remove the Region coding as well

Do you have any other R2 DVD to try

According to DVDProfiler -- the Anchor Bay 2 film set is not Region Coded. I don't have the disc to confirm, but it honestly wouldn;t shock me if it were R0

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Given that a 4K TV will upscale the signal, isn't a 4k upscaling feature on the player redundant?
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Is the 4k upscaling worth much -- probably not.
why?

It depends on whether the converting ability of the TV is better than that of the player. Most old DVD upscalers that were used with early HDTV were essentially a placebo since most flat panel TV/Monitor upscaled the signal to a fixed output anyway. If the TV had an especially poor converter or you had an exceptionally good Upscaler like the old OPPO's then there might be an incremental improvement. "My DVD player upscales my DVD to full HD, so Bluray is unnecessary" was the refrain of the masses anyway and were unaware/didn't care/oblivious that a non upscaling player playing the same disc would look virtually the same and neither was remotely what BD could do.
Of course half of those people had their set hooked up with the composite cables anyway.

Projectors that output the signal directly without any extra processing might benefit as well.

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Old 07-26-2019, 03:28 AM   #674
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As far as I'm aware no BD or UHD is Region free natively.

Do you have another plain DVD or BD player to try? It could be a R0 PAL disc which the Sony UHD can play, but PS3 and most older Sonys couldn't (PS4 probably would play it).

Some cheaper labels may not have always locked their discs the way they were supposed to, many Bootleg discs remove the Region coding as well

Do you have any other R2 DVD to try

According to DVDProfiler -- the Anchor Bay 2 film set is not Region Coded. I don't have the disc to confirm, but it honestly wouldn;t shock me if it were R0
No, I don't have any other region 2 discs, hence why I tried these to see what my player would do. But that makes sense. The back of the box says region 2, but I have blu-rays in my collection that say region B that play just fine in my player as well so that doesn't mean anything. I guess these two movies just aren't popular enough that much of anyone ever felt like importing the set who wasn't already region free.
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Hi
I'm from the UK and bought a Sony BDP1700 bluray player which is multiregion free from ebay (gonna receive it soon in the post and got it for 60).
According to the seller, it has a sticker from a company/website called multisystem-electronics, which specialises in selling multiregion players years ago.

Question is, does updating the firmware removes the multiregion capability or not?
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:09 PM   #676
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Hi
I'm from the UK and bought a Sony BDP1700 bluray player which is multiregion free from ebay (gonna receive it soon in the post and got it for 60).
According to the seller, it has a sticker from a company/website called multisystem-electronics, which specialises in selling multiregion players years ago.

Question is, does updating the firmware removes the multiregion capability or not?
Thanks
No it won't. You're perfectly fine to upgrade the firmware. The mod is hardware not software, so firmware won't have any impact
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No it won't. You're perfectly fine to upgrade the firmware. The mod is hardware not software, so firmware won't have any impact
Thanks for reply.
Not that I'm doubting you, but have you got the same player and/or bought it from multisystem-electronics before?
Reason being is that I read conflicting reports about updating firmware and causes it to lose the multiregion Bluray capability.
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:20 PM   #678
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No it won't. You're perfectly fine to upgrade the firmware. The mod is hardware not software, so firmware won't have any impact
Forgot to mention, I mean does updating firmware remove the Multiregion bluray function, NOT the DVD region free function? Thanks
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Forgot to mention, I mean does updating firmware remove the Multiregion bluray function, NOT the DVD region free function? Thanks
It has no effect. I had the S6700 and I'd updated the firmware and it was still fine. I didn't lose any multiregion capability. It didn't even change back to the default region (B) after updating. The reason I've moved to the Panasonic was because I was getting a conflict with my Sony 4K player and the Sony I returned as they used the same remote signal. It was getting annoying as I couldn't differentiate the signals

I've used both 220 Electronics and TPS (both via Amazon)
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Old 08-03-2019, 04:09 PM   #680
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Is there a region free 4K UHD Blu-ray player that will play all A/B/C regular blu-rays automatically without having to change the code everytime?
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