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Old 06-30-2020, 11:50 PM   #1
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Dynasty 3D Blu-ray

Our next Kickstarter campaign will launch tomorrow, July 1.

Please share and help us preserve this Silver-Age 3-D classic!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...dynasty-in-3-d



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Old 07-01-2020, 12:08 AM   #2
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:15 AM   #5
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This will be our first release in Compatible 3-D meaning you can view it on any system. The disc will have both polarized AND anaglyphic (red/cyan) 3-D versions. A dedicated 3-D Blu-ray player/display will not be required to see this Super 3-D, Quadrophonic Sound spectacular!
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Old 07-01-2020, 01:06 AM   #6
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This will be our first release in Compatible 3-D meaning you can view it on any system. The disc will have both polarized AND anaglyphic (red/cyan) 3-D versions. A dedicated 3-D Blu-ray player/display will not be required to see this Super 3-D, Quadrophonic Sound spectacular!
Hi Bob,

Already added my name to the mailing list for backers.

This will be great.
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Old 07-01-2020, 02:09 AM   #7
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DYNASTY is a well-made martial arts film and a lot of fun.
Excellent deep depth throughout with some memorable pop-outs.
Even the old analog sourced field-sequential gave good 3-D.
I'm in.
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Old 07-01-2020, 06:45 AM   #9
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I have been dreaming to see this one for decades !
thanks to the 3DFA wizards
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Old 07-01-2020, 08:13 AM   #11
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There literally is no other title I want released more than this one. As soon as this goes live, take my money!

It is a massive shame that it will be region locked but that's far better than having no release at all. If anyone in region B was waiting for a reason to buy a region A or region free player, this is it right here. This is the best 3-D film you will ever see.
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This will be our first release in Compatible 3-D meaning you can view it on any system. The disc will have both polarized AND anaglyphic (red/cyan) 3-D versions. A dedicated 3-D Blu-ray player/display will not be required to see this Super 3-D, Quadrophonic Sound spectacular!
Fantastic news. I was wondering if I can ask you a couple of questions concerning what you posted above.
Why are you including the anaglyph version on the disc? I ask for a couple of reasons. One is space. Donít think anyone wants this version to occupy disc space that can be used to maximize the bitrate on the real 3D version. The other one is how are you doing it. Are you scanning an additional anaglyph version or will you be converting the Real 3D into anaglyph. Either way, it sounds like you should use all resources into the discrete 3D edition. I personally have never watched an anaglyph blu-ray when there is a real 3D edition available. Could it be that the only 3D version of Dynasty you could find was an anaglyph and you are going to use your magic to make it into real 3D, so that is why you are including it on the disc?
Or is it because you think there is a better chance of getting more market that way?
Iím assuming youíll be including anaglyph 3D glasses that, altough negligible, are still an added cost.
I basically wanted to say that Iím perfectly happy to only have a discrete 3D blu-ray. Donít know what other longtime users here think, but It would be a good idea to get a feel of what people think. Donít want you wasting time and resources on a version no one is going to watch. Like all your previous work, this movie/blu-ray is aimed at us that still buy 3D discs, and we all have real 3D equipment. I just donít see anyone that doesnít own a 3D capable system ever watching the anaglyph version, when they completely abandoned the real 3D market.

And a curiosity question. What makes you decide which project goes to kickstarter? This one seems to have mass appeal. A 3D martial arts movie is bonkers and probably a terrific time. Is it because of additional work that needs to be done on the available materials that the distributor is unwilling to pay?
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I wonder if this has something to do with Dynasty being originally shown in anaglyph?
I thought about that, but Jivaro never premiered in 3D when it was first released and here we are with a terrific 3D blu-ray of that movie.
So while we could argue that anaglyph is indeed preserving the original theatrical experience, we all know that anaglypgh was simply a cost saving option of a much better alternative. Movies were not shot in anaglyph. And yes, looking forward to Bobís response on this matter.
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I basically wanted to say that I’m perfectly happy to only have a discrete 3D blu-ray...What makes you decide which project goes to kickstarter? This one seems to have mass appeal. A 3D martial arts movie is bonkers and probably a terrific time. Is it because of additional work that needs to be done on the available materials that the distributor is unwilling to pay?
I dare say none of us care about getting an anaglyph version but it's better than nothing for those without 3D-capable display equipment. It would be a shame if including the anaglyph version resulted in a lower bitrate on the real 3D version though.

Unfortunately I suspect Kino have lost confidence in 3D a little. They really should have just put this out in a double-bill with Revenge of the Shogun Women but my guess is that demand for their titles is inevitably a lot lower than it would be if they weren't region locked, so Kickstarter is a safe option. Or perhaps there may be a chance of getting the original audio with subtitles, I am looking forward to the details in any case.

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I think it's very smart to add the anaglyph version.
Let me explain. Of course none of use are interested in anaglyph but the majority of the Blu Ray buyers today are not equipped in BD3D and never will.
Dynasty is extremly rare and cult for its 3D. So, it's allowing everybody to discover it, somehow, in 3D. So it will allow selling more discs and that means new 3D Blu Ray coming up.
The ideal edition would be : 2 discs:
1 BD 3D
1 with 3D anaglyph + 2D
So everybody would be happy and the additional cost for the second disc is minimal.

Let's wait and see...

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I actually disagree with that. And some of the other works of the 3D Film Archive are my defense, like Jivaro and Taza. Some of these movies were seen by very few people in cinemas and you could argue that a 3D anaglyph version could make ir more acceptable. But the fact is that a quality 3D experience at home failed, and I donít believe anyone who does not own a 3D system is actually gonna watch this in anaglyph. If you think 3D glasses are uncomfortable, then those paper ones are even worse.
And I also think that this being a kickstarter, any amount of funds, no matter how small, being used to restore/edit/prepare the anaglypgh version is a misuse of resources, be it time or money.
But letís wait for Bob to reply and see the reason behind this.
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I dare say none of us care about getting an anaglyph version but it's better than nothing for those without 3D-capable display equipment. It would be a shame if including the anaglyph version resulted in a lower bitrate on the real 3D version though.
Everyone was furious that a random Amazon reviewer thought Nudie Cuties was anaglyph because it was a given 3DFA would never release such a product. A few months later and look where we are

I'm not mad it, as long as it keeps 3D alive. I managed to grab my nudie cuties off someone used up here in Canada for $20 because they didn't own a 3D TV and assumed it was anaglyph, so I can say that anaglyph will help sales to some extent. So if that's what it takes, no problem. It's better than nothing
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Given 3DFA’s goal is to preserve the movies in their original form, I wonder if this has something to do with Dynasty being originally shown in anaglyph? I grew up through the 80’s 3D spell, which to my memory were only shown in red/cyan in theatres. Interested to hear Bob’s answer, but welcome the anaglyph option for the sake of posterity, even if I will probably never watch it in that format.

Dynasty was not shown in anaglyph.

Most of the 3-D movies released in the 1980's were not shown in anaglyph. Go to this page on the 3D Film Archive web site to see the 1980's titles that were released in anaglyph. They are marked in green.

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Fantastic news. I was wondering if I can ask you a couple of questions concerning what you posted above.
Why are you including the anaglyph version on the disc? I ask for a couple of reasons. One is space. Don’t think anyone wants this version to occupy disc space that can be used to maximize the bitrate on the real 3D version. The other one is how are you doing it. Are you scanning an additional anaglyph version or will you be converting the Real 3D into anaglyph. Either way, it sounds like you should use all resources into the discrete 3D edition. I personally have never watched an anaglyph blu-ray when there is a real 3D edition available. Could it be that the only 3D version of Dynasty you could find was an anaglyph and you are going to use your magic to make it into real 3D, so that is why you are including it on the disc?
Or is it because you think there is a better chance of getting more market that way?
I’m assuming you’ll be including anaglyph 3D glasses that, altough negligible, are still an added cost.
I basically wanted to say that I’m perfectly happy to only have a discrete 3D blu-ray. Don’t know what other longtime users here think, but It would be a good idea to get a feel of what people think. Don’t want you wasting time and resources on a version no one is going to watch. Like all your previous work, this movie/blu-ray is aimed at us that still buy 3D discs, and we all have real 3D equipment. I just don’t see anyone that doesn’t own a 3D capable system ever watching the anaglyph version, when they completely abandoned the real 3D market.

And a curiosity question. What makes you decide which project goes to kickstarter? This one seems to have mass appeal. A 3D martial arts movie is bonkers and probably a terrific time. Is it because of additional work that needs to be done on the available materials that the distributor is unwilling to pay?
Thanks for your interest and questions.

We will make certain the bitrate does not suffer and if so, it will be on a separate disc.

The film was released theatrically in polarized 3-D only and the anaglyphic version was created for TV syndication in the early 80s.

The disc will have one pair of anaglyphic glasses. We will include an address within the packaging for people that wish to purchase additional red/cyan glasses.

The reason for our first Compatible 3-D release is simple. Maximum sales potential. There are many, many people out there who will want to see this in a form of 3-D who do not have BD3D equipment. Anaglyph will allow anyone to see it on any display or monitor with any standard Blu-ray player.

Normally I fund all of these restorations out of pocket and have only gone the Kickstarter route when funds are tight. They are very tight at the moment!
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Dynasty was not shown in anaglyph.

Most of the 3-D movies released in the 1980's were not shown in anaglyph. Go to this page on the 3D Film Archive web site to see the 1980's titles that were released in anaglyph. They are marked in green.
Yes, but Dynasty was released in 1977:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0165742/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_4

Though of course the 3DFA site notes it was not anaglyph. It's of course to 3DFA's credit that it has upgraded theatrical anaglyph releases to stereoscopic (aka "real") 3D.
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