4K Movies Releases

[Esox50]

Not sure if true, but many industry observers are saying they'd be shocked if a 4K Blu-Ray format were announced at CES in early Jan.

Does this make such a product a complete non-starter in 2014 all together? Or is there still hope for a Fall launch with a small mix of catalog titles, and all of 2014's big new releases.

Said it before...they are completely botching this...

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Esox50

Not sure if true, but many industry observers are saying they'd be shocked if a 4K Blu-Ray format were announced at CES in early Jan.

Well Esox, those observers aren’t going to have to wait too much longer for an answer to that as CES is fast approaching. Along those lines, question is, what did the Sony executive who went on record by saying that CES could be a “turning point” mean by that phrase?.... https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ng#post8524867

And (ownership/physical media preference issues, aside), how good will Netflix’s 4K PQ look with their HEVC streaming demo at CES?

Questions….questions……

What is the dynamic range (in f-stops) of film considered to be and does any digital camera far exceed that? < That I can easily answer definitively for which I doubt few industry observers can….at least without some serious img eL–style Googling.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Esox50

Does this make such a product a complete non-starter in 2014 all together? Or is there still hope for a Fall launch with a small mix of catalog titles, and all of 2014's big new releases.

Well, that’s a discussion point.

[img eL]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

What is the dynamic range (in f-stops) of film considered to be and does any digital camera far exceed that? < That I can easily answer definitively for which I doubt few industry observers can….at least without some serious img eL–style Googling.

Did you bet the farm on Netfilx or somthing? Geez streamboy wtf?

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Well Esox, those observers aren’t going to have to wait too much longer for an answer to that as CES is fast approaching. Along those lines, question is, what did the Sony executive who went on record by saying that CES could be a “turning point” mean by that phrase?.... https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ng#post8524867

And (ownership/physical media preference issues, aside), how good will Netflix’s 4K PQ look with their HEVC streaming demo at CES?

Not interested in Netflix now, nor will I ever be.

What about this?
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/vid...closer-1180129

Now I'm a little more calm. Obviously you know whats up though, with your cryptic responses. Go tell your "boy" from 6 years ago his 12mbps Batman Begins just isn't good enough. Ahh, remember those days...

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by img eL

Did you bet the farm on Netfilx or somthing? Geez streamboy wtf?

I do own Netflix stock , but not really a fan of streaming. I’m interested in what their HEVC bit rate levels will be at CES purely from a technological standpoint.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Esox50

Ahh, remember those days...

I do …as we built this City (Blu-ray.com) on rock and roll ….

Starship - We Built This City - YouTube

Meanwhile da Bears are getting slaughtered and I was hoping they’d clinch a playoff position tonight (my wife’s entire immediate family, nearly, lives in the Chicago area). Gotta eat dinner quickly to see if there's an unlikely turnaround in the 2nd half.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

CES

4K haters/skeptics should have fun with responses to this…“how to distinguish 4K with your clients…”

http://www.cepro.com/article/jack_jo...ro_ces_panels/

[besi]

I tought that dude (J.J.Puig) fell from the Nakatomi Plaza.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by besi

I tought that dude (J.J.Puig) fell from the Nakatomi Plaza.

Tossed out a window for promoting iDevices as an audio demo source.

[Flatnate]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

[Show spoiler]

Tossed out a window for promoting iDevices as an audio demo source.

LOL This!

+1

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

[Show spoiler]

Tossed out a window for promoting iDevices as an audio demo source.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Questions….questions……

What is the dynamic range (in f-stops) of film considered to be and does any digital camera far exceed that? < That I can easily answer...

Film has 16 f-stop capability
RED Dragon has 18 f-stop capability…..comfortably (more is debatable, since last I saw how the Dragon handled the DR chart Jim Jannard posted around last Dec.)

What camera is capable of capturing 20 f-stops?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I do own Netflix stock

“is being pushed together and the lines are blurring. And the truth is, folks like Amazon and Netflix saw this convergence even before the studios did and began offering DVD, Blu-ray, VOD and streaming, all at once. They saw the future before others, but now, in a sense, the future is here, and everyone’s recognizing and acting on that.”

Why 2013 was the year of ‘Digital HD’ – the Presidents weigh in……
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...013-was-667454

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

What camera is capable of capturing 20 f-stops?

The spheron vr HDRv camera -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8OA2...utu.be&t=3m34s

http://vimeo.com/13513876

[Penton-Man]

But, given all the recent Dolby display publicity in the mainstream press and insights as to the next generation video proposal(s) to SMPTE mentioned here on this thread, in the meantime, do we really need fancy, expensive HDR cameras for the creation of high dynamic range material?

And what about the humongous legacy base of low-dynamic range (LDR) displays which are unable to render HDR?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by besi

I tought that dude (J.J.Puig) fell from the Nakatomi Plaza.

Well played.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

But, given all the recent Dolby display publicity in the mainstream press and insights as to the next generation video proposal(s) to SMPTE mentioned here on this thread....

For the sake of completeness, I should also mention that several perceptual gammas (other than solely Dolby’s proposal for it) might be considered.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

...do we really need fancy, expensive HDR cameras for the creation of high dynamic range material?...

No, not really –
http://vimeo.com/74562835

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I do own Netflix stock , but not really a fan of streaming. I’m interested in what their HEVC bit rate levels will be at CES purely from a technological standpoint.

Will comment later as to the results an experiment performed by a group of respected independent research labs which are well known by proactive industry professionals when discussing the range of HEVC bit rates and the quality those bit rates can achieve with 4K (2160p/50-60) material.

And I presume the results of which, subsequently Netflix will also be using as a guideline for the encoding of their 4K commercial content.

'Boxing Day' football watching awaits with the relatives who are visiting for a few days.