4K Movies Releases

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Edge and Lego had 2k masters

All three had 2K masters. Also, Into the Storm was shot with the Arri Alexa and its resolution is not but 2.8K anyway.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Edge and Lego had 2k masters

Did I claim otherwise? Sometimes on this thread we digress, e.g. read and then scroll up from this past post…….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...el#post9630282

P.S.
Mike, tell us something not simply gained by googling the tech specs over at imdb. For example, what camera was in fact utilized for a few choice scenes in this motion picture, although not officially named/listed on the spec page…. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2039393/...ef_=tt_dt_spec as pictured -

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

All three had 2K masters. Also, Into the Storm was shot with the Arri Alexa and its resolution is not but 2.8K anyway.

Have you been dutifully keeping your 4K list up to date? I apologize if I haven’t contributed in awhile over there to either your or L’armee’s thread, but what I post here in terms of 4K DCPs should in most cases be an intuitive carryover to eventually adding to yours guys’ lists.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Have you been dutifully keeping your 4K list up to date?...

For example, from the discussion I had with Kris Deering a few pages back. As I notice that OAS is arriving on Blu-ray in about a month - https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/On-An...lu-ray/118810/

Despite the official imdb listing as of this moment…http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2872570/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Richard , are you keeping up with the JCT-VC goings on? For next month, is there a call for evidence regarding WCG and HDR with any specific set goal(s) in mind?

MPEG made an AHG that is looking into creating additional HEVC profiles for HDR/WCG video if a large compression improvement can be shown. I would mention though that MPEG also made an AHG that looked into creating additional HEVC profiles for interlace video so whether it goes anywhere really depends on the results.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

MPEG made an AHG that is looking into creating additional HEVC profiles for HDR/WCG video if a large compression improvement can be shown....

I think even 15-20% single layer coding efficiency would be significant.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Richard, next week will you be following the status of Technicolor’s proposal for using metadata plus three 1D LUTs as a cost effective solution for gamut mapping? Any new algorithmic proposals been presented for the meeting in Sapporo?

Richard, I see the AV bloggers across the consumer electronics internet universe have just discovered metadata as a possible solution for HDR and WCG image delivery.

Too funny, took long enough.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

HDR

The elephant in the CES 2015 HDR room remains what exactly is the optimal ambient lighting for consumer viewing HDR material on HDR capable displays?

Not to mention for mastering suites themselves, which has been….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...86#post8865354

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

The elephant in the CES 2015 HDR room remains what exactly is the optimal ambient lighting for consumer viewing HDR material on HDR capable displays?

Not to mention for mastering suites themselves, which has been….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...86#post8865354

in order not to induce eye strain in watching about 2 hrs. worth of HDR content...

multiply that 2 hrs. accordingly for colorists on the job.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Wow, well that must have been stressful? All the best and let's look forward to the new year. Good health.

This evening marks 3 weeks since they “touched-up” my heart in the O.R., now medically cleared to resume riding!

[Deathbymonkeys]

This Dolby Vision. Does it ONLY work on 4k tv's or will it be better looking than the already released versions but still playable on my current bluray setup (Not 4k)? I read the article but it didn't mention either way.

Wondering if it's like the mastered in 4k line from last year or if it's truly 4k and will not play on current tv's.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Did I claim otherwise? Sometimes on this thread we digress, e.g. read and then scroll up from this past post…….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...el#post9630282

P.S.
Mike, tell us something not simply gained by googling the tech specs over at imdb. For example, what camera was in fact utilized for a few choice scenes in this motion picture, although not officially named/listed on the spec page…. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2039393/...ef_=tt_dt_spec as pictured -

Whoah there, where did I attack you and ask for that vitriol?
Where do you get off exactly?
And I didn't see that info on IMDB, and no cameras were used in the main part of the Lego movie thanks.....

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I think even 15-20% single layer coding efficiency would be significant.

I think if the new coding tools can show a 20% improvement on normal video content, and not just carefully selected video clips, than it could happen. My concern is that in only the first three years HEVC will have over 30 video profiles of which at least 7 of them will be for consumers. It just seems a bit much that they might add more profiles which would do the exact same thing as current profiles but with perhaps a 20% improvement.

[wesslan]

Originally Posted by Deathbymonkeys

This Dolby Vision. Does it ONLY work on 4k tv's or will it be better looking than the already released versions but still playable on my current bluray setup (Not 4k)? I read the article but it didn't mention either way.

Wondering if it's like the mastered in 4k line from last year or if it's truly 4k and will not play on current tv's.

I think you need special content mastered in it AND a Dolby Vision tv that's not avaliable yet so no you can't use your current setup.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Whoah there, where did I attack you and ask for that vitriol?
Where do you get off exactly?
And I didn't see that info on IMDB, and no cameras were used in the main part of the Lego movie thanks.....

Oh sorry, complete misunderstanding on my part then. I thought you were correcting me for a mistake I didn’t make, on information which is painfully rudimentary to begin with.

Occasionally I see certain members’ names and the first thing I remember/think of is prior asinine online altercations they’ve had with other posters (sometimes having led to their suspension(s)) or, in other cases, not to say this applies to you, but those with strong HD DVD advocacy roots on other forums (HDD, HTF, AVS, etc.) where they belittled Blu-ray or Blu-ray.com during the format war and I subconsciously become sensitized to their presence now that they've made Blu-ray.com their 2nd home.

I’ll try to keep more of an unbiased mind.

As to asking for your input on the pictured (incomplete) tech specs above, I was referring to the movie The Gambler.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

HDR/WCG video

PM me if you have access to ITU-R WP6C RG-24 material….
https://www.itu.int/md/R12-WP6C-C-0380/en

Specifically, topics regarding things like Annex 07.

[Penton-Man]

SMPTE update with regards to items of interest in this thread…

10E Study Group on HDR Ecosystem
https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=241

3 hour meeting included the presentations of proposals from Philips, Technicolor, NHK and the BBC. In the future, proposals from other organizations are expected, but were unavailable at the time of the December meeting. Lots of folks interested in HDR.

[Penton-Man]

With regards to Reference Display and Environment for Critical Viewing…2080-1 (https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...?project_id=65), it’s in final review with Editor and nearing publication.

as to 2080-2… https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=277 the document includes a unique method for developing colorimetry offsets to deal with different display technologies.

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

PM me if you have access to ITU-R WP6C RG-24 material….
https://www.itu.int/md/R12-WP6C-C-0380/en

Specifically, topics regarding things like Annex 07.

I just read ITU/MPEG documents/websites, online articles, and internet forums.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

SMPTE update with regards to items of interest in this thread…

10E Study Group on HDR Ecosystem
https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=241

3 hour meeting included the presentations of proposals from Philips, Technicolor, NHK and the BBC. In the future, proposals from other organizations are expected, but were unavailable at the time of the December meeting. Lots of folks interested in HDR.

It will be interesting to see if the ITU UHDTV group and the SMPTE group pick the same HDR system or if they pick different HDR systems. Also while HEVC has already defined HDR/WCG metadata for consumer video it looks like SMPTE is planning to do that for professional video.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

...it looks like SMPTE is planning to do that for professional video.

^ Picked up drafting group resources after the December meeting (I don’t think Lars mentions that in that long official spiel for this new SMPTE project)