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Old 05-21-2015, 06:22 AM   #1
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Why is 4K talked about so much when 8K technology is already available? Can't we skip this over and avoid the inevitable while we can? 8K broadcasts are already starting in Japan. The hilarious thing is that we keep talking about 4K like it's the future when in fact 8K is already the present.

4K only has 6.220.800 more pixels than HD.
8K has a whopping 29.454.336 more pixels than 4K!

So as you can see 8K is a way bigger upgrade over 4K than 4K is over HD. By adopting 8K and skipping this temporary 4K nonsense we would automatically future proof ALL motion pictures filmed EVER, from Lawrence of Arabia and 2001: A Space Odyssey to newer releases like The Master and various IMAX films. Not to mention the fact that we could also shut down the debate of whether various 35mm films such as super 35mm ones benefit more from a 6K scan than a 4K one, since 8K obviously covers 6K. I blame the uninformed masses who are obviously satisfied with inferior technology and are ready to be milked for profits by corporations who would of course rather have them gradually buy into several technological steps when we could have it all right now.





Adopt 8K now!
8K master race! 4K and 2K = simpleton peasants.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:45 AM   #2
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The BDA needs something to use for the next physical media after UHD of course.

And to think that the "simpleton peasants" are satisfied with DVD (0.4K).
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:31 AM   #3
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The BDA needs something to use for the next physical media after UHD of course.

And to think that the "simpleton peasants" are satisfied with DVD (0.4K).
4K has 9.091.584 more pixels than DVD.
8K has a 29.454.336 more pixels than 4K.

8K over 4K is obviously a waaaaay bigger leap forward than 4K is over DVD. We're talking over 19 million pixels more here. That ain't no chump change. Yet for some mysterious reason there seems to be the least debate about what should be the most demanded upgrade by far. The 4K people have done an excellent job at brainwashing people into thinking that it's a major upgrade while convinently disregarding 8K.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:50 AM   #4
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So what's going to come after 8k - 12k or 16k?
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:52 AM   #5
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The 4K people have done an excellent job at brainwashing people into thinking that it's a major upgrade while convinently disregarding 8K.
You don't know much about manufacturing or marketing, do you?
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:06 AM   #6
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So what's going to come after 8k - 12k or 16k?
These are hypotheticals. The only thing I've read about 12k or 16k so far is when the image is spread over several 4K screens.

I'm only talking about current available technology, on one screen. And 8K exists in this form.
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:20 AM   #7
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Ok sorry but unless you have a 100 inch tv at your home, a 8k Tv will be totally useless. These TVs will not be sold in the public market for years, and like you said a niche of movies have been shot in 70mm (8k). So it will be upscaled from 4k most of the time.

Japan=/= rest of the world.

Japan plans to democratize 8k for 2020. So don't expect this before 10 years in Europe or America.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1279...tokyo-olympics

For the moment enjoy 1080p

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Old 05-21-2015, 11:28 AM   #8
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These are hypotheticals. The only thing I've read about 12k or 16k so far is when the image is spread over several 4K screens.

I'm only talking about current available technology, on one screen. And 8K exists in this form.
Indeed,

I posted this awhile ago.

Sharp is making them & 8K will broadcast in Japan sometime this winter.
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Old 05-21-2015, 12:54 PM   #9
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How many of you have even purchased a 4K panel yet? Now, people are worried about 8K? Could you even afford an 8K display large enough to get FULL use out of it? This thread is nuts man, I'm sorry!!
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Old 05-21-2015, 01:11 PM   #10
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There will come a time when it will be pointless to upgrade. I'm not sure about the exact resolution, but the human eye can only see so much.

18X? 32K? What is the limit?
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Old 05-21-2015, 01:15 PM   #11
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There will come a time when it will be pointless to upgrade. I'm not sure about the exact resolution, but the human eye can only see so much.

18X? 32K? What is the limit?
Pretty much 4k. 1080p is already so close to perfect, 4k basically is. Maybe 8k so they can have 4k 3D.

I know this thread is a joke.
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Old 05-21-2015, 01:17 PM   #12
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Pretty much 4k. 1080p is already so close to perfect, 4k basically is. Maybe 8k so they can have 4k 3D.

I know this thread is a joke.


Exactly. I mean, when is it enough?

To me, it sounds like nothing more than a cash-grab by the corporations. If the human eye can only see say, 4k then what's the point of 8, 9, 12K and so on?

Pointless.
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Old 05-21-2015, 01:19 PM   #13
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There will come a time when it will be pointless to upgrade. I'm not sure about the exact resolution, but the human eye can only see so much.

18X? 32K? What is the limit?

Depend the display size and the viewing distance. There is no limit, even with a 16k display screen you can see a difference, but maybe with a 150 inch screen haha.
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Why is 4K talked about so much when 8K technology is already available?
Nobody really needs UHD. Blu-ray with better bit depth, less compression, etc. would be more than enough.

Thus, ABSOLUTELY NO CONSUMER IN THE WORLD needs any sort of 8K.
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Old 05-21-2015, 01:39 PM   #15
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Depend the display size and the viewing distance. There is no limit, even with a 16k display screen you can see a difference, but maybe with a 150 inch screen haha.
Only if you put your nose on the display.
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I detect an ironic post (I think).
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There will come a time when it will be pointless to upgrade. I'm not sure about the exact resolution, but the human eye can only see so much.

18X? 32K? What is the limit?
True, that's the resolution that actually is as lifelike as.. well life.

So the limit for the human eye would probably be around 1.6 million K squared
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Old 05-21-2015, 01:45 PM   #18
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I'm waiting for 8k.
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Old 05-21-2015, 02:16 PM   #19
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It's a joke but 8k will definitely come. You can giggle about it, and moan about it, but it will come. Not soon, but eventually.

I don't expect movies to be it's focus though, it's going to be about big screen sporting events and things of that ilk. With this in mind, I doubt there'll be an 8k disc.

(but then I never really thought a 4k disc would be a thing, so what do I know.)
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True, that's the resolution that actually is as lifelike as.. well life.

So the limit for the human eye would probably be around 1.6 million K squared
http://www.clarkvision.com/imagedeta...esolution.html
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