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Old 11-26-2022, 12:04 AM   #4101
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4K UHD-BD has no 3D specification. It doesn't exist nor will it. You know this but you keep making these incorrect statements giving false hope.



Speaking of false hope, nothiing has changed since they stopped making 3D TVs. All the issues and problems are still the same.



I don't even care if there WERE a 4K 3D, but it'd be nice to have the color benefits of 4K with it.
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Old 12-02-2022, 06:25 PM   #4102
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Why is it that no one see 3D as a NATURAL extension of VR? Remember the old tech viewmasters in the 70's that allowed you to see slides in 3D. VR is set to make watching 3D movies easier than having huge tv's and 3D glasses. VR is 3D glasses taken to the next level. How about a 120" TV only a 1/2 inch from your pupils with 3840 x 2160 in each eye at 120-Hz refresh rate. I'm ready for that.
The amount of blue light coming from a VR device into the user eyes could be the most harm for someone if compared to a TV. And with a TV/projector you can watch anything 3D with other people as compared with VR it's only one person per device.
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Old 12-06-2022, 04:01 PM   #4103
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The necessity of 3D glasses will still be there but I don't think that will be a negative factor if another attempt is made. Just don't repeat the overhype and let it be an added feature.
It would have been great if manufacturers had made it easier to identify the compatibility of items- or even clearly state what was needed. But no, they had to try and protect their market share and confuse the hell out of everyone....active, passive, DLP, etc. etc.

It took a ridiculous amount of effort to find out my transmitter/active glasses use the ZigBee frequency (Optoma and Estar). How about coming up with standard symbols or color coded glasses symbols on the packages to show compatibility between devices and the glasses. Oh, I need green or blue coded glasses to work with my TV or projector.... It might still have been confusing but it could have worked better. Oh, you have a Panasonic TV? Those will work with Yellow coded (for passive glasses) or Red coded (for active RF glasses). Oh, your Bit Cauldron transmitter has a blue color coded glasses symbol on the box- you need blue coded glasses.

It could have been made as easy as seeing if you needed AA or AAA batteries for the new toy and not a major research project to buy expensive glasses and irritate/alienate your customers.

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Old 12-06-2022, 07:40 PM   #4104
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It would have been great if manufacturers had made it easier to identify the compatibility of items- or even clearly state what was needed. But no, they had to try and protect their market share and confuse the hell out of everyone....active, passive, DLP, etc. etc.

It took a ridiculous amount of effort to find out my transmitter/active glasses use the ZigBee frequency (Optoma and Estar). How about coming up with standard symbols or color coded glasses symbols on the packages to show compatibility between devices and the glasses. Oh, I need green or blue coded glasses to work with my TV or projector.... It might still have been confusing but it could have worked better. Oh, you have a Panasonic TV? Those will work with Yellow coded (for passive glasses) or Red coded (for active RF glasses). Oh, your Bit Cauldron transmitter has a blue color coded glasses symbol on the box- you need blue coded glasses.

It could have been made as easy as seeing if you needed AA or AAA batteries for the new toy and not a major research project to buy expensive glasses and irritate/alienate your customers.
Hi Lucasatakros,

Absolutely right. There should have been a standard where all active glases were compatible with all active sets., including simple bluetooth connectivity. We now know that was easy to do by the many generic brands working with all sets. Not familiar with passive glasses so didn't know discrepancies existed even with them.

And if televisions with the 3D feature do again come to market, let them all be by agreed upon standards as best as possible.
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Actually Bluetooth glasses are all compatible and the generics brands all work because of a standard. So that's all active TVs and LCD projectors that use Bluetooth. But it was this standard that might have caused the downfall for 3d tvs. Name brand 3d glasses were expensive and the companies can make more money selling the glasses that go with their 3d tvs. With generics, they lost that money. More likely it was because of cheap LCD tvs though so more expensive 3d tvs could not compete.
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On the other hand, there are still people (like me) willing to pay thousands rather than hundreds for a high quality display- but when you do spend that much you expect it to be able to do everything.
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Actually Bluetooth glasses are all compatible and the generics brands all work because of a standard. So that's all active TVs and LCD projectors that use Bluetooth. But it was this standard that might have caused the downfall for 3d tvs. Name brand 3d glasses were expensive and the companies can make more money selling the glasses that go with their 3d tvs. With generics, they lost that money. More likely it was because of cheap LCD tvs though so more expensive 3d tvs could not compete.
I believe at least one of my active TVs uses RF instead of BT.
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Old 01-08-2023, 05:11 PM   #4108
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I actually purchased an LG 3D TV a few years back when the 3D craze started and suddenly died. But I'm glad I have the TV it can convert any show or movie I am watching into 3D and uses the same glasses they give out in the movie theaters. It's a shame it died so fast but I really hope the future 4K 8K displays come with some sick 3D.
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Lmao when the video cuts off

One of those unknown brands has a better video demo of one with a bottle that you can tell is a little past the TV bezel but it did not look that impressive. I still believe this tech needs more improvement and its not ready yet.
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