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Old 12-03-2022, 08:40 PM   #1541
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Old 12-03-2022, 10:52 PM   #1542
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A lot of essentials titles listed earlier in the thread just hit the sale on Rightstuf if you have GA for early access.
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Old 12-03-2022, 10:56 PM   #1543
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I think some of the doom and gloom over the Funi Essentials titles going out of print is a little excessive, personally. Discotek has done the exact same thing in the past few months, at least in one case for a title that was only available for a month or two. And Sentai has also let titles go out of print while maintaining streaming rights, or never released licensed titles on disc at all (Urashiman, Between the Sky and Sea, etc).

An array of older and/or more obscure titles going out of print is not surprising, not an outlier in the anime industry, and not an indication of anything that wasn't already obvious. Namely, that CR isn't likely to be doing budget re-releases of their titles. But that just means that the initial release of a title will likely be the only release of that title, so don't wait 5 years for it, hoping to find it at bargain bin prices.

As for CR not releasing everything, relegating titles to streaming only? They've already been doing that for years, so I'm not sure why people are acting like that's some big surprise or new policy. Funimation's been terrible at releasing stuff for years, even for major titles, which is why there are dubbed My Hero Academia and Reincarnated as a Slime OVAs that were never released, even though Funi dubbed them. Much less whole series that were dubbed and never released, like Masamune-kun's Revenge. It's looking like Re:Zero season 2 is ending up in the same place.

And don't even start me on prior CR-only licenses; you could go back over the last decade and produce a massive list of titles on CR that were never released on disc. Granted, CR didn't get the home video rights to all of them, but there's a number of them they did, and those titles were just stuck in limbo.

So really, I'm not seeing this as being that much different. Before, CR would get some titles, Funi would get some, and between the two of them, a number of those would never get released. Now, Funi/CR gets the same pool of licenses, a number of which won't be released.

You could say there's some concern about the number of released titles reducing, but that isn't a new thing; I argue we've been seeing the result of the merged company's release slate practically the entire year. So these titles going out of print doesn't indicate anything new, in terms of what they will or won't release.

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Old 12-03-2022, 11:18 PM   #1544
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I think some of the doom and gloom over the Funi Essentials titles going out of print is a little excessive, personally. Discotek has done the exact same thing in the past few months, at least in one case for a title that was only available for a month or two. And Sentai has also let titles go out of print while maintaining streaming rights, or never released licensed titles on disc at all (Urashiman, Between the Sky and Sea, etc).

An array of older and/or more obscure titles going out of print is not surprising, not an outlier in the anime industry, and not an indication of anything that wasn't already obvious. Namely, that CR isn't likely to be doing budget re-releases of their titles. But that just means that the initial release of a title will likely be the only release of that title, so don't wait 5 years for it, hoping to find it at bargain bin prices.

As for CR not releasing everything, relegating titles to streaming only? They've already been doing that for years, so I'm not sure why people are acting like that's some big surprise or new policy. Funimation's been terrible at releasing stuff for years, even for major titles, which is why there are dubbed My Hero Academia and Reincarnated as a Slime OVAs that were never released, even though Funi dubbed them. Much less whole series that were dubbed and never released, like Masamune-kun's Revenge. It's looking like Re:Zero season 2 is ending up in the same place.

And don't even start me on prior CR-only licenses; you could go back over the last decade and produce a massive list of titles on CR that were never released on disc. Granted, CR didn't get the home video rights to all of them, but there's a number of them they did, and those titles were just stuck in limbo.

So really, I'm not seeing this as being that much different. Before, CR would get some titles, Funi would get some, and between the two of them, a number of those would never get released. Now, Funi/CR gets the same pool of licenses, a number of which won't be released.

You could say there's some concern about the number of released titles reducing, but that isn't a new thing; I argue we've been seeing the result of the merged company's release slate practically the entire year. So these titles going out of print doesn't indicate anything new, in terms of what they will or won't release.
Still waiting for Yuru Camp that was long before merge happened.
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Old 12-04-2022, 01:41 AM   #1545
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You’ll be eating those words once Crunchyroll stops releasing every new series on disc and only the ones that generate numbers via streaming.
Maybe so. It seems like it was bound to happen sooner or later though. Look at TV shows on Blu-ray, most of them get tossed to DVD only or not released physically at all. Crunchyroll could also license series out to Discotek if they don't think it'd be worth their time to release it themselves.
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Old 12-04-2022, 02:45 AM   #1546
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I think some of the doom and gloom over the Funi Essentials titles going out of print is a little excessive, personally. Discotek has done the exact same thing in the past few months, at least in one case for a title that was only available for a month or two. And Sentai has also let titles go out of print while maintaining streaming rights, or never released licensed titles on disc at all (Urashiman, Between the Sky and Sea, etc).

An array of older and/or more obscure titles going out of print is not surprising, not an outlier in the anime industry, and not an indication of anything that wasn't already obvious. Namely, that CR isn't likely to be doing budget re-releases of their titles. But that just means that the initial release of a title will likely be the only release of that title, so don't wait 5 years for it, hoping to find it at bargain bin prices.

As for CR not releasing everything, relegating titles to streaming only? They've already been doing that for years, so I'm not sure why people are acting like that's some big surprise or new policy. Funimation's been terrible at releasing stuff for years, even for major titles, which is why there are dubbed My Hero Academia and Reincarnated as a Slime OVAs that were never released, even though Funi dubbed them. Much less whole series that were dubbed and never released, like Masamune-kun's Revenge. It's looking like Re:Zero season 2 is ending up in the same place.

And don't even start me on prior CR-only licenses; you could go back over the last decade and produce a massive list of titles on CR that were never released on disc. Granted, CR didn't get the home video rights to all of them, but there's a number of them they did, and those titles were just stuck in limbo.

So really, I'm not seeing this as being that much different. Before, CR would get some titles, Funi would get some, and between the two of them, a number of those would never get released. Now, Funi/CR gets the same pool of licenses, a number of which won't be released.

You could say there's some concern about the number of released titles reducing, but that isn't a new thing; I argue we've been seeing the result of the merged company's release slate practically the entire year. So these titles going out of print doesn't indicate anything new, in terms of what they will or won't release.
The only thing I find surprising is what titles we're seeing going OOP on Essentials, and stuff that isn't even 4 years old and wasn't re-released onto the budget lines. I can't imagine say Nichijou still not performing. They only got it because of a Kadokawa package deal indicated by the fact it was released subbed-only, and it overperformed as indicated by them going back and dubbing it, which they didn't do with any of their other subbed-only titles despite saying if they released something subbed-only, that was it, they were never going to go back and dub it.

I'm not particularly shocked with like the S.A.V.E. titles going OOP, especially the DVD ones. Many of those shows are now so old that newer fans have never even heard of them, especially when you consider how so many newer anime fans tend to be quite resistant to the idea of watching a show that's more than a few years old and largely stick with what's hot, new, and currently airing. Though, some of those S.A.V.E. titles could have had new sales if they got re-released on Blu-ray, a number of them have had Blu-rays in Japan for a while and FUNimation for whatever reason never got Blu-ray rights.

The days of budget re-releases do seem like they're now ending. FUNimation was the only company that ever both did them and stuck to them. Everyone else that did them quickly gave up, I have an entire list because of how many failed to stick around.
https://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=835398

Something to add, Classics and Essentials releases came with digital copies which seem like they're not going to be a thing anymore, so that could be one factor and we might see re-releases without the digital copies for some of these titles. The companies are still merging and the FUNimation brand hasn't been entirely phased out almost 9 months after the annoucement (the FUNimation website is still up).

I'm not going to be too impacted by many of the Essentials titles going OOP because I either bought the original releases because I wanted nicer releases rather than S.A.V.E./Essentials (especially if they got LEs), or I didn't like the show and have no interest in ever owning it (I listed many earlier).

Seeing all these titles going OOP is always a good reminder that if you want something, buy it. Not everything will be available forever, and unlike the 2000s anime DVD bubble, most titles are living out their licenses instead of going OOP after only a few years because companies that made horrible and boneheaded business decisions like overprinting everything to the moon resulting in countless retailer returns (*Cough*Geneon*Cough*) went under.
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The only thing I find surprising is what titles we're seeing going OOP on Essentials, and stuff that isn't even 4 years old and wasn't re-released onto the budget lines. I can't imagine say Nichijou still not performing. They only got it because of a Kadokawa package deal indicated by the fact it was released subbed-only, and it overperformed as indicated by them going back and dubbing it, which they didn't do with any of their other subbed-only titles despite saying if they released something subbed-only, that was it, they were never going to go back and dub it.
The trick is, unless we've heard something else on the subject, we don't know how that experiment worked out. For example, it could have sold well sub-only, and then the dub didn't generate the sales expected, causing the show to be a break-even or loss overall. Or it could have sold well at first, but long term sales plummeted (it had no staying power), so there's no benefit to keeping the release in print at this point. Not saying either of those is the case, but it strikes me as very possible.

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I'm not particularly shocked with like the S.A.V.E. titles going OOP, especially the DVD ones. Many of those shows are now so old that newer fans have never even heard of them, especially when you consider how so many newer anime fans tend to be quite resistant to the idea of watching a show that's more than a few years old and largely stick with what's hot, new, and currently airing. Though, some of those S.A.V.E. titles could have had new sales if they got re-released on Blu-ray, a number of them have had Blu-rays in Japan for a while and FUNimation for whatever reason never got Blu-ray rights.
Honestly, if Funi let the licenses lapse, a few of the more notable DVD-only series might actually benefit from it, long term. The Negima franchise was stuck on DVD with Funi; it took them losing the license to enable Sentai licensing the franchise and finally giving it a BD release.

If Funi were to let the license to, say, Last Exile lapse, would that sit unlicensed indefinitely? I think there's a chance we'd eventually see some of the better known or received titles on BD from someone else. Not all of them, of course, but none of them are getting upgrades so long as Funi sits on them.

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Seeing all these titles going OOP is always a good reminder that if you want something, buy it. Not everything will be available forever, and unlike the 2000s anime DVD bubble, most titles are living out their licenses instead of going OOP after only a few years because companies that made horrible and boneheaded business decisions like overprinting everything to the moon resulting in countless retailer returns (*Cough*Geneon*Cough*) went under.
Hear, hear on that point. In the current market, titles could disappear at any time, especially the older and more obscure ones. So no one should be taking a given title's availability for granted.
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Old 12-04-2022, 03:45 AM   #1548
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One piece of (very unlikely) speculation I have as to why they're being discontinued is that they might sublicense titles out to other companies. However like I pretty much said, I wouldn't count on it happening.
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Old 12-04-2022, 11:31 AM   #1550
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One interesting side effect about these OOS Essentials IF you think RS will never restock them, they make a great way to pad out your order to get free shipping.
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Seeing all these titles going OOP is always a good reminder that if you want something, buy it.
Some people do not have infinite money to buy everything they want. Therefore, it's nice when product is available for a while.
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One interesting side effect about these OOS Essentials IF you think RS will never restock them, they make a great way to pad out your order to get free shipping.
Not a bad piece of advice. Some online stores are really bad about that, and their system will automatically add the shipping charge even if they are the ones who cancel certain items and bring the total below the free shipping threshold, but RS still gives the free shipping. It takes away the anxiety of making small orders with OOS items.
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For those who missed it:

Nichijou: My Ordinary Life - The Complete Series [Blu-ray] got restocked at Amazon.com. Plenty of copies are available.
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Apparently, lots of Funimation's OOP blu-rays, including some extremely-rare limited editions, got restocked this morning. Perhaps Amazon recently found them in its warehouse lol.
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For those who missed it:

Nichijou: My Ordinary Life - The Complete Series [Blu-ray] got restocked at Amazon.com. Plenty of copies are available.

Not the only one, from my earlier lists. (some you have to look in the "new from" as for some reason a 3rd party is listed)

So false alarm or last gasp? Get them while you can?



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Apparently, lots of Funimation's OOP blu-rays, including some extremely-rare limited editions

Such as?

edit: I see Goblin Slayer for $77, Wanna be the World's Strongest was $37 but when I clicked on it, it was already gone.

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Such as?

edit: I see Goblin Slayer for $77, Wanna be the World's Strongest was $37 but when I clicked on it, it was already gone.
Attack on Titan Limited Editions. Now all they are gone.
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Attack on Titan Limited Editions. Now all they are gone.
The part 2's? Season 2 and 3 boxes still are there (and have been). If it was season 1 now THAT would be rare.
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The part 2's? Season 2 and 3 boxes still are there (and have been). If it was season 1 now THAT would be rare.
Season 1 and Season 3 Part 2. They have been OOP for a long time and are being sold for inflated prices.
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For those who missed it:

Nichijou: My Ordinary Life - The Complete Series [Blu-ray] got restocked at Amazon.com. Plenty of copies are available.
Thanks for the heads up! Walmart canceled my previous order, so I went ahead and ordered from Amazon instead.

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How did you find this out? There a helpful list or post somewhere?
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