4K Movies Releases

[pentatonic]

Originally Posted by saprano

Yes they are. But everything seems to be moving at a snails pace. The kuro technology is about 5 years old now and nothing beats it in all PQ areas. Some come close, match it in one area, beat it in another, but none has a clear advantage in everything. And we're talking 5 years here. Jeez.

Yep, on that you're right. Weren't the Kuros power hogs though? (I really don't know but seems I read that)

[Mavrick]

In an interview after the keynote it was stated the average film in 4k is around 120gb. BD was mentioned but they were tight lipped about the discs saying more news will be released at a later date.

The online service will probably where most will get their content from. At least Sony buyers. Every 4k TV comes with a media server for doenloading content.

People who bought Sonys first 4k tv from November will have a guy sent out personally to update their server with new 4k content next month.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

At sony's press conference they said 4K blurays are coming this spring, but no mention if it's a new format or current disc.

b.t.w., incidentally, for those who didn’t attend or watch the *live* stream, a prototype 4K OLED display was unveiled…

https://blog.sony.com/press/sony-dev...rnational-ces/

Imagine that….the unveiling at the press conference came a few hours after we had just discussed the Holy Grail of all displays on the last page of this thread, in a reminiscent mood that is.

[Mavrick]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

b.t.w., incidentally, for those who didn’t attend or watch the *live* stream, a prototype 4K OLED display was unveiled…

https://blog.sony.com/press/sony-dev...rnational-ces/

Imagine that….the unveiling at the press conference came a few hours after we had just discussed the Holy Grail of all displays on the last page of this thread, in a reminiscent mood that is.

I felt so sorry for Kaz

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

In an interview after the keynote it was stated the average film in 4k is around 120gb. BD was mentioned but they were tight lipped about the discs saying more news will be released at a later date.

The online service will probably where most will get their content from. At least Sony buyers. Every 4k TV comes with a media server for doenloading content.

People who bought Sonys first 4k tv from November will have a guy sent out personally to update their server with new 4k content next month.

It’s known as a ‘white glove service’ and how do you think the ‘guy’ will actually update customers’ servers in the near term?....

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...32#post6953832

e.g. disc, memory card, etc.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

I felt so sorry for Kaz

I think he handled it well.

I'm not sure how well someone in tech support will enjoy their dinner tonight, though.

[Josh5890]

I don't think this is a good idea. Right now you have 3 formats available to purchase films on at a store (DVD, blu, and 3D blu), technically 4 if you include digital. DVD is still going strong and isn't going anywhere. Blu-ray continues to grow and right now is just starting to dive deep into catalogs since most of the big name franchises are on the format. And 3D blu-ray has it's little niche. Adding another format doesn't help. Granted it is going to be very small and I understand that technology evolves every second but is there a need to have several different formats? Before it was blu-ray vs HD DVD but now it kind of feels like it is Sony competing against itself. Maybe I'm nuts but I to me it seems like this won't take off much, if at all.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

Read the press release here, and then read this to see why this isn't a big deal at all.

They're still 1080p, and the films announced so far already have BDs that come from 4K masters. This is just "Superbit Blu-ray," if even that.

What i worried it was going to be.

What's the difference between BD's that are already mastered in 4K?

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

b.t.w., incidentally, for those who didn’t attend or watch the *live* stream, a prototype 4K OLED display was unveiled…

https://blog.sony.com/press/sony-dev...rnational-ces/

Imagine that….the unveiling at the press conference came a few hours after we had just discussed the Holy Grail of all displays on the last page of this thread, in a reminiscent mood that is.

Yep. Like i said, penton, you know your shit.

Excuse my language. Heh. 4K+OLED+60"+ = I can finally buy another display and not worry if my kuro is still better.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by saprano

What's the difference between BD's that are already mastered in 4K?

Slightly higher bitrate encoding, considering Sony already does a good job with encoding? Or maybe absolutely nothing.

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

Slightly higher bitrate encoding, considering Sony already does a good job with encoding? Or maybe absolutely nothing.

I don't believe to us this is any news. People familiar with the format have seen/bought discs with extremely high bit-rates. I expect the new "Mastered in 4K" BDs to be something closer to the Japanese standard for bit-rate.

[msantaka]

Hi guys,

Do you guys think that 4k will be implemented on tv's smaller than 60"? Say the 40 - 50" range? Or was that a blatant wishful thinking?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

I don't believe to us this is any news....

Some of you guys are concentrating on the wrong technological announcement (e.g. ‘Mastered in 4K’)….unless you’re marketing folk. The ITU and ISO/IEC haven’t yet officially finalized HEVC in terms of declaring it a standard. Subsequently, the BDA would most certainly like to use a more efficient codec than H.264/AVC and adopt that new codec as part of a new Blu-ray standard for mass produced 4K Blu-ray movies. (For the tech geeks out there, the major advantages of HEVC are that it optimizes for parallel processing and expands H.264’s maximum of 16 x 16 pixels to a potential 64 x 64.)

So, until then, a serious 4K content provider is already coming up with an interim solution to keep the native 4K momentum going . A more interesting announcement is that of ‘the Sony 4K delivery system’ and, in that regard, the need for further details, like technically, exactly how will this be implemented? And if you don’t know how Sony will do it….then how would you guys here do it?....if you were a chief in advanced technology.

Meanwhile, at the very least, with the 4K delivery system announcement, Sony saw and raised the bet to REDRAY/ODEMAX….

http://odemax.com/information.html

[space2001]

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/b...p-ultra-hd-tv/

[biznus97]

Originally Posted by msantaka

Hi guys,

Do you guys think that 4k will be implemented on tv's smaller than 60"? Say the 40 - 50" range? Or was that a blatant wishful thinking?

I wouldn't be surprised if they are made smaller once manufacturing cost becomes trivial. When 1080P displays were prototypes at CES, the exact same comments about why do we need this and there will be no benefit were around. Now we have resolutions greater than that on tablets. A 32" 4k display would make a nice PC monitor alternative

[saprano]

Look like no 4KBD for a long while-

http://new.livestream.com/TheVerge/e...videos/8946270

Makes the whole 4K thing usless to me.

[kristoffer]

Originally Posted by saprano

Look like no 4KBD for a long while-

http://new.livestream.com/TheVerge/e...videos/8946270

Makes the whole 4K thing usless to me.

Yes seems like it will be a couple of years. At least!

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by saprano

Look like no 4KBD for a long while-

http://new.livestream.com/TheVerge/e...videos/8946270

Makes the whole 4K thing usless to me.

Not necessarily. He wouldn't commit to anything, really. He said physical media and streaming were options, and that currently broadband access wasn't good enough for 4k streaming. If they are launching in the spring they need physical formats and I don't think people will want hard drives for very long. There has to be some kind of physical format and 4KBD makes the most sense.

[kristoffer]

More here. It doesn't seem like a standard phyical format is remotely close.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/s...-interview-4k/

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

In an interview after the keynote it was stated the average film in 4k is around 120gb.

And that was my point with Chevypower (in the other 4k thread) he just did not want to grasp that 4k films would need a hell of a lot of disk space for anyone that actually collects films. At less than 10 films per TB that becomes a hell of a lot of storage extremely fast (if it is on an HDD). And at 120GB there goes most peoples cap any month (if we assume digital distribution.

The only thing that makes sense is some kind of high capacity disk or a multi-disk player (i.e. it takes three BDs to watch that 1.5h film but you don’t need to get up every ½ hour)