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Old 02-14-2020, 03:01 PM   #581
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This felt so not star trek more than discovery...
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Old 02-14-2020, 03:13 PM   #582
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Episode 4 was my favourite so far. I really enjoyed Picard's interactions with the Romulan colony and I like the mix of characters that have now been put together. The stuff over on the Borg cube is the weak stuff and really slows things down (the scenes with Narek and his sister feel repetitious too), but I did like the scene with them sliding down the corridor. It had a nice bit of throwaway joy to it.

I love Rios' various holograms who all look like him with different accents. The hungover tactical hologram made me laugh.

And that ending moment - I shouted "noooo!" when the end credits appeared! This was a short episode.
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Yeah it seemed short to me as well. But the end though, I was like oh yeah here we go.

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Old 02-14-2020, 04:39 PM   #584
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I wonder what is preventing someone from accidentally being assimilated by the cube?

I can't remember the name of the episode but there was one episode where a piece of borg technology assimilated the Doctor's Mobile Emitter then ended up sampling a crew member's DNA and made some sort of advanced borg.
I thought that was explained in the second episode? will have to watch it again but all the scientists were assembled and a Romulan went through the rules etc and I got the impression that the areas of the cube they were currently in had been made safe and that they were not to go into other areas as they would risk being assimilated, also thought they had to wear though badges as it registered nano-probe activity and if it spiked they had to leave.

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Yes that was the one. I think there was a line somewhere where she said that the nano probes were designed to assimilate other technology and so on.

I would be surprised if the Borg queen (re-incarnated) decided to let them have that cube as an experiment of her own.

There is little to nothing to stop a full on invasion of the Alpha and Beta quadrants from the Borg.
Well Voyager did a lot of damage to the collective and the transwarp network, they might still be rebuilding.
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Old 02-14-2020, 11:46 PM   #585
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Yeah it seemed short to me as well. But the end though, I was like oh yeah here we go.
Exactly.

I do get some of the criticisms people are making - in fact, I had to restart this episode several times because I found myself being distracted and not terribly interested at first.

But once I saw the end? Even though I knew what was happening...I simultaneously cheered and - no joke - had tears well up. I had to skip back and watch it multiple times, it was just so perfect.

So yeah, it's the nostalgia that is doing it for me - and also the hope that this isn't all they are going to do. There are a couple of dozen Trek actors who are alive and well who they could easily populate several shows with, and I hope that Picard does well enough that they explore more of them.

It seems like such a waste that this hasn't been done before - but there is still plenty of time for them to still have some exciting adventures with the classic casts yet.
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Old 02-15-2020, 01:55 AM   #586
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I just watched this weeks episode and it was another great one for me. I really like that this is more story driven, yet, still gives action and battle. Plenty on the emotional level with some sprinkling of sex and sexual tension.

I really like what they have done with the world of Star Trek. I enjoy that itís more viewed from the ďcheap seatsĒ and itís gritty showing other sides of the federation and occupants of that time.

Remember, Star Trek was always a marrow for what is currently going on in our world and so far, they are doing an amazing job.

Next week should begin taking the show to another level.
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Old 02-15-2020, 07:11 AM   #587
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Another good episode. Good to see a different aspect of Romulan culture beyond their military. Also interesting to get a sense of the different perspectives and attitudes caused by the evacuation.

Picard and Seven clearly know each other and have met in person at some point. When they did meet there might have been a sense of recognition or familiarity given that at one time they were both part of the Collective. I wonder if the show will go into that at some point, even if only briefly.

Episode length isn’t bothering me in the slightest. It’s all about the bigger picture, on subsequent viewings it’ll just become one long story arc.

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I wonder what is preventing someone from accidentally being assimilated by the cube?

I can't remember the name of the episode but there was one episode where a piece of borg technology assimilated the Doctor's Mobile Emitter then ended up sampling a crew member's DNA and made some sort of advanced borg.
I think that was explained during one of the flashbacks when Soji first appeared on the Borg Cube. The new staff were told not to touch anything (no explanation regarding why wasn't explained) and that the Borg cube was actually disconnected from the collective. The Borg cube also had extensive damage done to the exterior. This is shown during the exterior shots of the Cube, which the producers, for some strange reason, see fit to show the Borg cube's exterior in every shot when they cut to the Cube.

What strikes me as oddly curious is that the Borg species are AI. No matter how you look at it, that is their essence, despite having to rely on organic beings for mostly their physical bodies, Borg AI actually controls their foot soldiers through AI and mechanical prosthetics. It would be the only way that the Borg Queen could control them. Borg drones who develop personalities like Hugh and Seven are, undoubtedly rare when you compare their abnormalities among the greater Borg race.
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I think that was explained during one of the flashbacks when Soji first appeared on the Borg Cube. The new staff were told not to touch anything (no explanation regarding why wasn't explained) and that the Borg cube was actually disconnected from the collective. The Borg cube also had extensive damage done to the exterior. This is shown during the exterior shots of the Cube, which the producers, for some strange reason, see fit to show the Borg cube's exterior in every shot when they cut to the Cube.
Some strange reason? It’s convention to cut to a familiar external shot when the story shifts to a different location.

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What strikes me as oddly curious is that the Borg species are AI. No matter how you look at it, that is their essence, despite having to rely on organic beings for mostly their physical bodies, Borg AI actually controls their foot soldiers through AI and mechanical prosthetics. It would be the only way that the Borg Queen could control them. Borg drones who develop personalities like Hugh and Seven are, undoubtedly rare when you compare their abnormalities among the greater Borg race.
The Collective isn’t AI in the traditional sense, it’s just something else. In any case, Hugh and Seven didn’t just develop personalities. Both of them were out of contact with the Collective when their conscious sense of individuality started to emerge, and even then it only really emerged because they both had external influences encouraging them to consciously think as individuals.

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While I'd agree with you normally regarding the Borg, I believed that for the longest time until I realized that it's the Borg Queen who is actually Borg. That if you look at it from an exterior point of view, she has "assimilated" an unknown number of races to serve as Borg drones. From what has been portrayed on screen, in the various TV shows and movies, the queen is the only one that can be actually considered to be a true Borg and that's why I made the statement as to why the Borg are AI.

It makes sense, in an offbeat sort of way. Since they use prosethetics/mechanics limbs and whatnot. But, I do think that if I'm right that the Borg are AI, they have to be a highly advanced form of AI, far beyond anything that the Federation, Romulan, Klingon, Cardassians have developed. The best analogy I can come up with is what we saw in the first Star Trek movie, with V'Ger.

Not saying I'm right but it just struck me when I started thinking about how the Picard series portrays Romulans as hating AI or artificial beings.
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The Borg definitely aren't AI; their intelligence is fully organic and the technology they use to join as a collective has no cognitive ability independent of the organic beings.
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Episode 4 was my favourite so far. I really enjoyed Picard's interactions with the Romulan colony and I like the mix of characters that have now been put together. The stuff over on the Borg cube is the weak stuff and really slows things down (the scenes with Narek and his sister feel repetitious too), but I did like the scene with them sliding down the corridor. It had a nice bit of throwaway joy to it.

I love Rios' various holograms who all look like him with different accents. The hungover tactical hologram made me laugh.

And that ending moment - I shouted "noooo!" when the end credits appeared! This was a short episode.
Gotta say I really enjoyed this one, even the stuff on the Cube because we're finally getting a few more slivers of info, e.g. the Romulans don't actually want to kill the sisters (yet) because they want to find out where the rest of the "robots" are and then presumably wipe them out.

Loved it that we delved a bit deeper into the fallout of the Federation's withdrawal from the Romulan aid effort too, if episode 3 was the opposite of "show, don't tell" (probably why I found it such a slog) then ep 4 is the embodiment of it. Maybe I'm just glad that we're up into space at last!
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Another good episode. Good to see a different aspect of Romulan culture beyond their military. Also interesting to get a sense of the different perspectives and attitudes caused by the evacuation.

Picard and Seven clearly know each other and have met in person at some point. When they did meet there might have been a sense of recognition or familiarity given that at one time they were both part of the Collective. I wonder if the show will go into that at some point, even if only briefly.

Episode length isnít bothering me in the slightest. Itís all about the bigger picture, on subsequent viewings itíll just become one long story arc.

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The writers stated that this was the first time they had ever met each other but they knew of each other.
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The writers stated that this was the first time they had ever met each other but they knew of each other.
Oh well, that makes it even more likely that there will be some acknowledgement of their connection via the collective. Yeah, even if they hadn't met in person, it was always likely that they would at least know of each other, both of them being prominent figures.
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Oh well, that makes it even more likely that there will be some acknowledgement of their connection via the collective. Yeah, even if they hadn't met in person, it was always likely that they would at least know of each other, both of them being prominent figures.
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Exactly they know of each otherís because they are both very prominent figures or were at some point.
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I think I might be out. Watching this is more a chore than a thrill to me.
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One thing I’m trying to recall if it has been mentioned; the Zhat Vash seem to think there are more androids like Dahj and Soji and are hoping to learn their location so they can destroy them all. Do we know why and how the Zhat Vash are under the impression there are more of them?
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One thing Iím trying to recall if it has been mentioned; the Zhat Vash seem to think there are more androids like Dahj and Soji and are hoping to learn their location so they can destroy them all. Do we know why and how the Zhat Vash are under the impression there are more of them?
We don't know why they are under that impression, but it's reasonable to suppose that they're paranoid enough to believe that if there are two, there are probably more.
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I though the ďmore androidsĒ were the synths who attacked Mars?

It follows if the synths made the attack they wouldnít have made the attack to destroy themselves.
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last fridays episode made me believe

[Show spoiler]that Dr Jurati may be an advanced Synth as well.
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