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Old 03-03-2020, 08:45 PM   #1
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Default Atmos: Worth it or Not?

Currently, I have a standard 5.1 setup. I haven't had the opportunity yet to hear a setup with Atmos and I'm wondering if it has really taken off or is more a 3DTV gimmic, destined to fall away. Is Atmos used as extensively and as effectly as regular surround. Is it subtle or aggressive in general.....worth the price of addition? I'd have to buy a Marantz SR-8012 to replace my old SR-7009, so I can still be able to use two of the amps to biamp the fronts for when listening to music. I have Paradigm Monitor 11v7's in the front and Monitor 9v7's in the rear. If I was going to add 4 height channels, say from SVS or Klipsch, would there be an issue with timbre matching? I kinda doubt it, I'm thinking it's more like being able to buy any manufactures sub and it works well with what one has, but never-the-less wanted some feedback on my all questions.....

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I don't have Atmos, but i heave heard a proper setup before with 2 front firing front and 2 in the back. So a total of 9 speakers! It was absolutely insane how each speaker would have it's own identity. I only watched JOHN WICK 4K with it but like I said it was insane.

So I would say totally worth it if you want the full capability of audio soundtracks /experience in HD.

Me Personally have no problem with a good old 5.1 DTS X soundtrack lol. Atmos is awesome for sure though.
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No, it's certainly not a gimmick..I have a Dolby Atmos / DTS:X setup, and I love it. The overhead channels are basically used for atmospheric and ambience sound effects. Once you hear it, you're going to be hook. I don't know where you're located but, if there is a local specialized home theater dealer (besides Best Buy) where they may have a Dolby Atmos demo room, you can go there and listen to it and when you do, you may not want to leave.
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I’d definitely upgrade to Atmos. I have a 7.1.4 setup and the height channels really add a lot of immersion. I don’t think Atmos sound is going anywhere so your investment will be well worth it.
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I was one of the early adopters of Dolby Atmos (2015) and to me it is totally worth it. The height channels just give another dimension to the sound track of a movie. It is really cool when aircraft fly right over your head.
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I have a 5.1.2 setup (with 2 subs), and I have to say it is totally worth it. Just finished watching Midway, and that will be one of my go to reference discs.

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I have a 5.1.2 setup (with 2 subs), and I have to say it is totally worth it. Just finished watching Midway, and that will be one of my go to reference discs.
I was talking to a friend the other day bringing up Midway as something that would be pretty painful to watch on an iPad, as it certainly has some flaws with casting, pace, and editing. However, if you have a system that takes advantage of the sonic goodness of the movie, you will have a smile on your face and welcome it into your collection...and pull it out to demo often. On a side note, the trailer to Greyhound launched yesterday, so let me be the first to predict we will talking about the audio in that whenever that is released for us to do some structural damage to our homes.
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Currently, I have a standard 5.1 setup. I haven't had the opportunity yet to hear a setup with Atmos and I'm wondering if it has really taken off or is more a 3DTV gimmic, destined to fall away. Is Atmos used as extensively and as effectly as regular surround. Is it subtle or aggressive in general.....worth the price of addition? I'd have to buy a Marantz SR-8012 to replace my old SR-7009, so I can still be able to use two of the amps to biamp the fronts for when listening to music. I have Paradigm Monitor 11v7's in the front and Monitor 9v7's in the rear. If I was going to add 4 height channels, say from SVS or Klipsch, would there be an issue with timbre matching? I kinda doubt it, I'm thinking it's more like being able to buy any manufactures sub and it works well with what one has, but never-the-less wanted some feedback on my all questions.....

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I would personally try and go with Paradigm speakers for your height channels. I can't speak from experience but there are probably chopper and jet flyovers if the speakers are not matched I would think that over head effects would sound odd, IMO.

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I was talking to a friend the other day bringing up Midway as something that would be pretty painful to watch on an iPad, as it certainly has some flaws with casting, pace, and editing. However, if you have a system that takes advantage of the sonic goodness of the movie, you will have a smile on your face and welcome it into your collection...and pull it out to demo often. On a side note, the trailer to Greyhound launched yesterday, so let me be the first to predict we will talking about the audio in that whenever that is released for us to do some structural damage to our homes.
I saw that too, looks very good and if done right, will be a sonic ATMOS treat; our subs (pun intended) are gonna be in trouble with Greyhound! I wonder how it will stack up in the HT against 1917.

man, 3 big really good video/audio war movies ( Midway, 1917 & Greyhound) all getting todays technological treatment for the HT. good time to be UHD/DV/HDR/ATMOS ready!

on a side note, when will we get some Master & Commander with remastering up to UHD/DV/HDR/ATMOS!?!

oh and yes, for me, ATMOS is worth every penny. when your setup is right and you get a good mix, IT'S F'ING MAGIC!
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I saw that too, looks very good and if done right, will be a sonic ATMOS treat; our subs (pun intended) are gonna be in trouble with Greyhound! I wonder how it will stack up in the HT against 1917.

man, 3 big really good video/audio war movies ( Midway, 1917 & Greyhound) all getting todays technological treatment for the HT. good time to be UHD/DV/HDR/ATMOS ready!

on a side note, when will we get some Master & Commander with remastering up to UHD/DV/HDR/ATMOS!?!

oh and yes, for me, ATMOS is worth every penny. when your setup is right and you get a good mix, IT'S F'ING MAGIC!
High fives all around... if you can swing it, go Atmos, 7.1.4 here and loving it...

I still haven't gotten over trailers that have trailers... what gives? Greyhound was no where on my radar, looks good... will now go downstairs and watch U-571 to prepare
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5.1.2 here as front up-firers.

It's not obvious, but it creates a subtle bubble that makes it sound more organic and not coming from set speakers. I don't listen to much native Atmos content, but I upscale surround and 5.1 using it. Given that you can install up-firers without much effort or space why not? You don't have to install a full discrete Atmos setup to get at least some of the added experience. It's flexibility means it's surely here to stay, definitely not just a gimmick.

I bought Focal Sib Evo's - lovely piece or kit, essentially very high quality compact speakers (the Atmos integrated ones are bigger, but not huge for those short on space) and Atmos as easy as plug and play if you have a compatible receiver. I'm happy with the core 5.1.2 pack, but you can add 2 extra Atmos-enabled speakers to get 7.1.4.

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I have 5.1.2 and Atmos is awesome. Makes viewing more immersive. Something like A Quiet Place will have you thinking someone is on your roof lol.
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Count me as someone who was more than happy with my 10 year old 7.1 system thinking that ATMOS/DTS X was a gimmick.
When the price of the ONKYO receives dropped to ridiculously low levels, it just became stupid not to upgrade. Having older PARADIGM speakers all around meant that it cost nothing to source out matching speakers for the new height channels..
IMHO, the people here describing hearing discrete effects coming from the new channels are missing the boat and doing it wrong..
Having timberally matched speakers and upgrading to ATMOS/DTS X has meant that properly encoded soundtracks reveal sounds placed within a bubble of sound within the room. It's hard to describe but it is certainly no gimmick. It's the real deal and definitely worth the upgrade.
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It's worth it. I also have a 5.1.2 set-up but will probably upgrade to a 5.2.2 set-up down the line.
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Currently, I have a standard 5.1 setup. I haven't had the opportunity yet to hear a setup with Atmos and I'm wondering if it has really taken off or is more a 3DTV gimmic, destined to fall away. Is Atmos used as extensively and as effectly as regular surround. Is it subtle or aggressive in general.....worth the price of addition? I'd have to buy a Marantz SR-8012 to replace my old SR-7009, so I can still be able to use two of the amps to biamp the fronts for when listening to music. I have Paradigm Monitor 11v7's in the front and Monitor 9v7's in the rear. If I was going to add 4 height channels, say from SVS or Klipsch, would there be an issue with timbre matching? I kinda doubt it, I'm thinking it's more like being able to buy any manufactures sub and it works well with what one has, but never-the-less wanted some feedback on my all questions.....

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It's amazing! I don't think your Paradigm will match up well with Klipsch though. Paradigm is a pretty warm sound while Klipsch can be pretty bright.
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I was talking to a friend the other day bringing up Midway as something that would be pretty painful to watch on an iPad, as it certainly has some flaws with casting, pace, and editing.
No movie shouldn't be watched on a iPad, Cellphone, tablet or any small portable device. Movies are made to be presented on a big screen, to emulate the full theater experience. A person can't get that on a iPad
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No movie shouldn't be watched on a iPad, Cellphone, tablet or any small portable device. Movies are made to be presented on a big screen, to emulate the full theater experience. A person can't get that on a iPad
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No movie shouldn't be watched on a iPad, Cellphone, tablet or any small portable device. Movies are made to be presented on a big screen, to emulate the full theater experience. A person can't get that on a iPad
Preach. I would even add to that comment, certain tv shows as well. A peer at work was watching the first season of Jack Ryan on his phone listening to the phone’s speakers while he was on his lunch. I shamed him in public (rightfully so) as that show along with many others deserve to be viewed and experienced the right way.

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Defiinitely upgrade to atmos, it is worth the price.
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No movie shouldn't be watched on a iPad, Cellphone, tablet or any small portable device. Movies are made to be presented on a big screen, to emulate the full theater experience. A person can't get that on a iPad
You are certainly welcome to your opinion and I may even share it, but I think it is a very narrow minded opinion on how entertainment should be consumed. Watching a movie or a tv show is a personal thing, if someone doesn't place the same value in the technical merits of it as you do it doesn't make them wrong for watching it on a portable device.

I know I've had plenty of wonderful experiences sharing a tv show or a movie with my wife in my arms while we relax on a couch or in bed and I wouldn't want that taken away from me.
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