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Old 08-30-2012, 07:03 PM   #21
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Ok I guess that means that things scanned in 4K that take up the full 24mm frame width (S-35, Silent, etc) will still have to be cropped or resized down.

[Show spoiler]This is what a 4% resize normally does to pixels and detail
full100%4K.jpg -> 96%resizefrom4Kto3840.jpg

(cropping 1:1 is better)


Well, c' est la vie.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:14 PM   #22
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Since when is 4K 3840 horizontal pixels? I don't see a 4 there freakin' Sony, if they're going to make that the standard resolution for whatever next-gen video format they've got cooking, they're dumb. 4K as defined by the DCI standard is 4096x2160. This is like calling 1080p 2K... it ain't. Once again you'll need to scale or crop the image, losing quality.
Hi folks . “Retired” don’t mean dead.

Already covered back in January –
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...op#post5724086

b.t.w., as an aside, despite the fact that the 4K theatrical projection standard is 4096 x 2160, the typical 4K Digital Cinema workflow has used a 4096 x 3112 digital intermediate to begin with.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:35 PM   #23
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Only $30,000 that's it? I'll take two, one for my bedroom and one for the bathroom.
If the past is any indicator, one need only wait to witness a dramatic price decrease. Sony's 70" Qualia TV debuted at about $13K, and eventually evolved into the XBR2 version at $6K. Similarly, Sony's first 70" flat panel, the XBR3 was originally $33,000 in 2007 (?), improved as the $22,000 XBR7 model in 2009, and finally discontinued last year when Sharp released 70" LED backlit models for around $2,000.
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Old 08-31-2012, 09:14 AM   #24
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Whats the biggest tv screen you can buy when going UHD ? 200 INCH?
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Old 08-31-2012, 03:42 PM   #25
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Ok I guess that means that things scanned in 4K that take up the full 24mm frame width (S-35, Silent, etc) will still have to be cropped or resized down.
Best practice will be to scan much higher and scale down anyway.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:11 PM   #26
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If the past is any indicator, one need only wait to witness a dramatic price decrease. Sony's 70" Qualia TV debuted at about $13K, and eventually evolved into the XBR2 version at $6K. Similarly, Sony's first 70" flat panel, the XBR3 was originally $33,000 in 2007 (?), improved as the $22,000 XBR7 model in 2009, and finally discontinued last year when Sharp released 70" LED backlit models for around $2,000.
I remember when I worked for Sony (2006), the Sony Style store (Madison ave location) had a Qualia sitting there and kept dropping the price almost every day (and even threw in the stand for it free). I believe they eventually sold it but it got to the point that I thought it would never sell.
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Old 09-01-2012, 03:09 AM   #27
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If I had the money I would buy that beauty no questions asked.
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Old 09-01-2012, 05:24 PM   #28
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The only problem i have is stuff shot in SD will look like crap !
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Old 09-01-2012, 05:34 PM   #29
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The only problem i have is stuff shot in SD will look like crap !
An Oppo blu-ray player will fix the problem.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:53 PM   #30
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An Oppo blu-ray player will fix the problem.
really how? what about old tv shows?
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Old 09-02-2012, 07:06 PM   #31
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really how? what about old tv shows?
Oppo blu-ray players have the best upscaling for DVD's out there.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:35 AM   #32
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Is it true? This 85 inch set is XBR8? I might have money for that. My 55 inch XBR8 is awesome. I couldn't care less about 3D. I use my old 3800BDCI from Denon. It's not even BD Live.
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Old 09-05-2012, 02:46 PM   #33
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Is it true? This 85 inch set is XBR8? I might have money for that. My 55 inch XBR8 is awesome. I couldn't care less about 3D. I use my old 3800BDCI from Denon. It's not even BD Live.
Nope its not the XBR8 but its the same design or pretty darn close to it! Your lucky to have an XBR8 because those were one of Sony's best tv's at the time. Your from Minnesota? So am I buddy.


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Is it true? This 85 inch set is XBR8? I might have money for that. My 55 inch XBR8 is awesome. I couldn't care less about 3D. I use my old 3800BDCI from Denon. It's not even BD Live.
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Nope its not the XBR8 but its the same design or pretty darn close to it! Your lucky to have an XBR8 because those were one of Sony's best tv's at the time. Your from Minnesota? So am I buddy.


Damn 84"!! I just got my 65" in January! Looks as if I may be trading up!!
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Old 09-11-2012, 03:19 AM   #35
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nice! I'm getting one too

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Old 09-14-2012, 06:41 PM   #36
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nice! I'm getting one too
one day mate
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:16 AM   #37
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It's not called the XBR8, it's called the XBR-84X800. SMH

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Old 11-20-2012, 10:47 AM   #38
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The sony screnn will come with 4K films. New Blu Ray standard?

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/19/3...ntent-delivery
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So can this tv do 3D? It'd be kind of lame if a $30,000 tv couldn't
Yep. According to the product page, this TV does 3D using passive glasses. Which means that the expense for 3D glasses is taken out of the equation, since 3D glasses from Real D presentations can work. And with the 4K screen, this means there's technical full HD passive 3D. Downside is, no 4K passive since the TV might use the FPR method.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:18 PM   #40
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Sony just had their roadshow piece here in our store this past weekend. Sweet piece! The 3D is using pasive glasses because it's upconverting regular HD to 4K so you get 1080p in each eye... which you don't at the present time with passive glasses. The only other panel I've seen that would second the Sony is the less than half price 75" Samsung 9000 series. I'd be damn happy with either one.

Sony ran a hard drive on the set with real 4K material and also ran some Blu-Ray clips as well as a PS3 game. I will say the Gran Turismo looked incredible being upconverted to 4K but not nearly as impressive when switched to 3D mode. There was much more aliasing on the game so 2D was the better way to go for sure. Very cool set though and the Sony guys were here talking to customers the whole time. We will be getting one for display in a few weeks.
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