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Old 07-08-2018, 03:24 PM   #9821
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Resuming the purchase of discs will not make your digital library disappear; you still have access to that content for as long as the digital providers permit it.

You could choose to repurchase on disc only those titles that are either on sale or just those titles that you especially love. Going forward I would recommend buying subsequent new additions on disc. I would replace those digital only titles on a case by basis over time based on both price and level of personal interest.

It is no surprise that I think digital only purchases are a poor choice and for a lot of reasons. Clearly, not everyone agrees with me. Had I made such poor choices, I would rather learn from my mistakes and not just continue to repeat them. It is never too late to embrace the best in quality, and in control of content, that only physical media offers.
^i said that without moving my lips!
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Old 07-08-2018, 03:29 PM   #9822
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There is a greater chance of damaged discs, missing discs in the packaging, unplayable discs, disc rot, and Blu-ray and 4K players unable to read discs or freeze playback than digital media.
That is a statement of fact. Rules here require you to provide proof of statements of fact. If you do not provide proof then it would appear to be PURE BS.
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Old 07-08-2018, 03:42 PM   #9823
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One more collector here, same experience. Decades of collecting discs and not a single disc that broke after years of use.
It is wonderful that you have never had a disc fail. Of the very few DVDs that have failed on me, most of them were those accursed "flipper" discs found early on into the format. These "flipper" discs, with their content recorded on two sides of a single disc, do have a higher failure rate and I think their manufacture was discontinued a long time ago.

The couple of blu-rays that have failed to play for me were likely damaged in shipment and all were replaced at no cost.
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:47 PM   #9824
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Laserdiscs were somewhat notorious for their failure rate.
Pioneer replaced most of my defective disc. I did have a few disc that warped out of tolerance. I procured two pieces of 12 x 12 x 1/2 inch plate glass (special order). Placed warped disc between the glass pieces then placed in oven on very low heat and heated till disc was warm. Removed and let sit for several days. This would usually remove the warp.

No CD failures, only a couple of DVD failures and only one BD failure. Never had any physical media stop and buffer, look worse than a bad VHS tape, most have little to no banding, etc. .
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Old 07-08-2018, 05:28 PM   #9825
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I had only one defective disc from 900. Twilight Zone series 2, one of the discs skipped and wouldnít play. It ended up being a deep scratch and I got a refund.
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:42 AM   #9826
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The already mild concerns I had about damaged discs have been significantly reduced by the durability of Blu-ray discs compared to DVDs or CDs. Of the thousands of Blu-ray discs I've used I've encountered less than 10 with problems, all of which were easy and free to replace.

Any digital supporters that talk about high failure rates of discs are just fear mongering.
The only fear mongering in this thread is the anti-digital contingent in here talking about disappearing movies and EULA.
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:11 AM   #9827
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The infrastructure for reliably delivering true Blu-ray quality video consistently and consumers storing them is just not here yet.
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Old 07-09-2018, 09:04 AM   #9828
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The only fear mongering in this thread is the anti-digital contingent in here talking about disappearing movies and EULA.
Except itís not, is it?
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Old 07-09-2018, 01:08 PM   #9829
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The only fear mongering in this thread is the anti-digital contingent in here talking about disappearing movies and EULA.
Except itís not, is it?
Sure it is
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Old 07-09-2018, 02:21 PM   #9830
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The infrastructure for reliably delivering true Blu-ray quality video consistently and consumers storing them is just not here yet.
With Kaleidescape you are supposed to be able to do that but it is not cheap. Here again Kaleidescape had to close its doors for a short while. If it happens again will they find even more money to back them?
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Old 07-09-2018, 04:17 PM   #9831
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Sure it is
You are deluded if you think that’s the case imo.

Just of the top of my head I can recall several posts stating disc is dead and antedotes of stores losing their entire disc display. That’s just one member but there have been many others in this thread’s lifespan. How is that not fear mongering?

You are wrong, face it.
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Old 07-09-2018, 05:47 PM   #9832
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Sure it is
You are deluded if you think thatís the case imo.

Just of the top of my head I can recall several posts stating disc is dead and antedotes of stores losing their entire disc display. Thatís just one member but there have been many others in this threadís lifespan. How is that not fear mongering?

You are wrong, face it.
Exactly. One persons opinion is their opinion.
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:27 PM   #9833
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Exactly. One persons opinion is their opinion.
Flyryís statement (that you seemed to agree with) stated that the only fear mongering was from the anti-digital people. There is definitely fear mongering on both sides and it's crazy to argue otherwise.
So because he only addresses opposing side of the argument heís wrong
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:28 PM   #9834
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So because he only addresses opposing side of the argument he’s wrong
No, you made a false statement. Stop trying to twist everyone’s posts to suit your own argument.

ONLY. What is difficult to understand here?
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:07 PM   #9835
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So because he only addresses opposing side of the argument heís wrong
No, you made a false statement. Stop trying to twist everyoneís posts to suit your own argument.

ONLY. What is difficult to understand here?
Now weíre just splitting hairs. Fear of loss is definitely a motivating factor in this thread lately. It just happens to be on pro disc side. So how exactly has he made a false statement
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:39 PM   #9836
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Yeah, Iím pretty sure I covered that in my last post PenguinInfinity. So is this more about having the last word at this point?
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:46 PM   #9837
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There is fear mongering on the anti-digital side. TRUE
There is fear mongering on the anti-physical side. TRUE
The only fear mongering is on the anti-digital side. FALSE

Fear Mongering from the Anti-Digital Side:
The digital providers will revoke access to a your entire digital collection.
All media is going to be 5 minute mobile-only videos.
Interactive video will wipe out everything else.
Everything is going to be subscription only and all purchase options will disappear.
Large TVs will stop being sold.
SD will become the only option.

Fear Mongering from the Anti-Physical Side:
Discs have high-failure rates.
Fires and floods will wipe out your collection.
Physical media sales are down 46% this year.
Stores will stop selling physical media in a matter of months.
All physical media prices will skyrocket.
Nobody buys physical media.
Physical media buyers will be left behind.
Yeah, I don't think he even knows what he is arguing about at this point. He jumped in, realised he was wrong and is now trying to justify it with a load of waffle.
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Old 07-09-2018, 09:20 PM   #9838
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Yeah, I don't think he even knows what he is arguing about at this point. He jumped in, realised he was wrong and is now trying to justify it with a load of waffle.
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Old 07-09-2018, 09:25 PM   #9839
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Read two posts up and let it sink in son.
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Old 07-09-2018, 10:07 PM   #9840
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Man up dude, admit you dropped the ball on this one, you will earn the respect of more posters by doing so.

How many times have you witnessed car a run a red light, car b blows their horn at car a, car a then shouts obscenities at car b. Hope you are above this level of folks.
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