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[doctor_who]

Originally Posted by kidkash

I don't think this will happen if anything it'll be set up like dma where you can redeem it there or on any services site. Losing uv now would hurt a lot of people I mean what happens to everyone who shares with families? I think this is just away of mass sharing a collection like dma when the movies in it will go to the big services but still uv is around for vudu. While Amazon and iTunes just do their own thing.

What you are describing though IS a replacement.

I think there will be a transition period, but eventually it's definitely possible all movies in your UV locker become all movies in your MA keychest.

UV is definitely being replaced in my opinion. As long as I don't lose any movies (I won't), it's fine.

The only thing I wonder about are TV series. It would be nice to get those into the keychest like Movies Anywhere as well.

[doctor_who]

Originally Posted by kidkash

But I don't think when you say iTunes people think of movies and how many people buy digital anything on Amazon? Streaming is mostly associated with Netflix still I think digital streaming is still growing. Even the holdouts who say I still wanna own a hard copy I mean when was the last time someone bought a CD. This is no different it just takes some time digital didn't destroy cds out the gate it took about 10 plus year.

Not too many people buy digital often, but I don't know a single person who buys anything on Vudu in real life; meanwhile, I know for a fact most people have bought things here and there on Amazon or iTunes. They mostly rent though if streaming doesn't have it on Amazon, but they buy sometimes. This sort of move can invigorate more people to digital purchases. UV hasn't caught on, Vudu isn't a thing...time to try something else.

[WestMan]

Originally Posted by doctor_who

Not too many people buy digital often, but I don't know a single person who buys anything on Vudu in real life; meanwhile, I know for a fact most people have bought things here and there on Amazon or iTunes. They mostly rent though if streaming doesn't have it on Amazon, but they buy sometimes. This sort of move can invigorate more people to digital purchases. UV hasn't caught on, Vudu isn't a thing...time to try something else.

I agree. I have over 300 movies on Vudu. A combination of free movies, $2 disc to digital conversions, and codes from blu-ray purchases. The only movie I have ever bought on Vudu is the Star Wars 6 movie set. Vudu isn't great. Something else better needs to come along.

As long as I can transfer my collection over I am happy.

[kidkash]

Originally Posted by doctor_who

Not too many people buy digital often, but I don't know a single person who buys anything on Vudu in real life; meanwhile, I know for a fact most people have bought things here and there on Amazon or iTunes. They mostly rent though if streaming doesn't have it on Amazon, but they buy sometimes. This sort of move can invigorate more people to digital purchases. UV hasn't caught on, Vudu isn't a thing...time to try something else.

I would say if anything Comcast has more purchases than all 3. I wouldn't say Vudu hasn't caught on because at one time the people on here didn't purchase stuff but no I will agree it hasn't gotten mainstream yet. But it's not like they are advertising like the others I still think it's a timing issue before it's a let's give up.

[bladerunner1]

UV hasn't caught on? Then why do UV codes go for twice as much in the sales threads here?

The reasons people aren't buying digital is the general population just doesn't have any desire to own movies anymore. They rent it, watch it, and are done with it. Just like the days before cheap VHS and DVD.

Also, pirating. You cannot discount the torrents. It's a massive problem.

But yeah for the majority Netflix and Prime will do.

[blueseraphtears]

For me, UV has most definitely caught on. I used to only use iTunes, but I coukdntvstream anything on my android phones, so I switched to Vudu. Love it. I have over 1700 movies on Vidu and with UV locker I can share with my family. I live in Ohio and I can share almost my entire collection with my sister in Virginia, my cousin in Texas and several other family members. Super convenient. And I am going to buy them anyways, so shy not share the wealth?
That being said, I would love to see Movies Anywhere with more studios, or even more Disney Channel stuff added. I buy stuff from Amazon on occasion as well. More studios on Movies Anywhere would allow my daughter to watch more stuff on her Kindle. To each their own, though.

[TheDean]

Im still not sure where all this info has come from exactly. But I'm glad its happening. I was kind of expecting it since most studios call UV Digital HD. Now with the word UV removed from Warner titles and the word "Digital" appearing on upcoming releases from Warner, Sony, Universal, and Disney it seems to be happening. Fox still says Digital HD, but they quit advertising UV long before anyone one else.

I'm just glad I will finally be able to redeem this stack of mostly useless codes.

Originally Posted by bladerunner1

UV hasn't caught on? Then why do UV codes go for twice as much in the sales threads here?

The reasons people aren't buying digital is the general population just doesn't have any desire to own movies anymore. They rent it, watch it, and are done with it. Just like the days before cheap VHS and DVD.

Also, pirating. You cannot discount the torrents. It's a massive problem.

But yeah for the majority Netflix and Prime will do.

UV hasn't caught on with the general population. Ultraviolet always reminds me of skin cancer.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by TheDean

Im still not sure where all this info has come from exactly. But I'm glad its happening. I was kind of expecting it since most studios call UV Digital HD. Now with the word UV removed from Warner titles and the word "Digital" appearing on upcoming releases from Warner, Sony, Universal, and Disney it seems to be happening. Fox still says Digital HD, but they quit advertising UV long before anyone one else.

I'm just glad I will finally be able to redeem this stack of mostly useless codes.

UV hasn't caught on with the general population. Ultraviolet always reminds me of skin cancer.

What rock do you live under, UV is the only way to go. They sell here on Blu-ray.com and the UV Stores. I don't use Disc anymore, it's all UV for me and I can get and play any Recent Release before it comes out on Disc.

[doctor_who]

Originally Posted by alchav21

What rock do you live under, UV is the only way to go. They sell here on Blu-ray.com and the UV Stores. I don't use Disc anymore, it's all UV for me and I can get and play any Recent Release before it comes out on Disc.

My friend.

Look at my collection. I have embraced UV. Therefore you can trust my opinion.

But what he stated is the reality. And UV will transition to a new service (Movies Anywhere) for a reason. The abandoning of "UV" terminology on Code slips and packaging is all the proof you need that it is imminent.

You won't lose your collection, but if you can't admit that UV is basically non-existent in the world, then the rock is above your head.

[twobelowpar]

Yeah you don't need to go UV to do any of that. UV was not the only way to go and it definitely won't be anymore.


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[kidkash]

I have a hard time seeing amazon and iTunes agreeing to this I mean doesn't it basically make one obsolete? I mean amazon price matches everything I'm not sure if iTunes does but if they transfer to all areas what's the point. I could see iTunes and amazon not being apart of this if they are gonna lose out on tons of money.

Ps I know iTunes and amazon sell other things. I mean obsolete for digital film and tv.

[whipnet]

I would buy much more from Amazon if they'd join UV.

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[Kendog52361]

For buying from Amazon, other than free pilots that I try to get pretty much everywhere, I'm generally only buying MCU movies from Amazon since I get $5 Amazon Gift Cards from Microsoft Rewards and it transfers across the DMA "universe".

In regards to TV Shows, I have a couple of concerns. Firstly, for currently airing series that's available/produced in 4K. I'm not sure if the weekly episodes released will be include the 4K option, or if it'll only be for after it comes out on Blu-ray. If it's the latter, that will affect buying during the season, especially if it's only available in 4K on Blu-ray. On the other hand, if it's available during the airing season in 4K, then what's to stop people from skipping it during it's airtime and instead just watching it the next day in 4K, especially since it wouldn't be available in 4K on the TV screen?

The other concern is, while I haven't checked recently, if I'm remembering correctly, currently airing TV Series seasons that include UV are only UV after they comes out on DVD/Blu-ray. When the current season is airing, while it's available for sale, from Vudu for example, it's not UV at that point. What I'm concerned about is would it be "Movies Anywhere" immediately, or would you have to wait for it to come out on disc, and hope your purchase during the season is transferred over to MA.

[Zu Nim]

Originally Posted by Andyways

I'm surprised that Paramount hasn't joined yet considering they recently hired a new EVP from Disney that "led negotiations with iTunes, Amazon, Google, Walmart’s VUDU and Microsoft for the studio’s cloud-based digital movie service, Disney Movies Anywhere."

Maybe the hire was based on negotiating a better deal and he hasn't come through yet. More seriously, it could simply mean they haven't finished the work on their end and not that they won't be participating.

Originally Posted by bladerunner1

The reasons people aren't buying digital is the general population just doesn't have any desire to own movies anymore. They rent it, watch it, and are done with it. Just like the days before cheap VHS and DVD.

Also, pirating. You cannot discount the torrents. It's a massive problem.

But yeah for the majority Netflix and Prime will do.

To clarify, digital VOD revenue in 2016 was smaller than in 2013. Subscription alone has exploded. But yes, it turns out most people never wanted to own movies. It's not that surprising considering most people rarely rewatch movies.

Piracy as a problem is vastly overrated. Most pirates wouldn't pay for the content in the first place so there's no revenue lost. Or they'd like to pay but can't because of international release schedules.

Originally Posted by kidkash

I have a hard time seeing amazon and iTunes agreeing to this I mean doesn't it basically make one obsolete? I mean amazon price matches everything I'm not sure if iTunes does but if they transfer to all areas what's the point. I could see iTunes and amazon not being apart of this if they are gonna lose out on tons of money.

It opens up opportunities for each company to try grabbing revenue and customers from the others. I might buy the hot $5 title at Amazon today intending to watch it on iTunes but maybe I watch on Amazon and decide it's a better experience for me. Apple might be at greater risk in this scenario but they might lose more revenue growth by not joining. With Amazon and Vudu announced for Apple TV they need to persuade people to keep buying on iTunes. If people feel their purchases are locked into iTunes some will be driven to buy elsewhere. MA might stanch that flow.

Originally Posted by whipnet

I would buy much more from Amazon if they'd join UV.

I think that ship has sailed.

[Zu Nim]

Originally Posted by Kendog52361

In regards to TV Shows, I have a couple of concerns. Firstly, for currently airing series that's available/produced in 4K. I'm not sure if the weekly episodes released will be include the 4K option, or if it'll only be for after it comes out on Blu-ray. If it's the latter, that will affect buying during the season, especially if it's only available in 4K on Blu-ray. On the other hand, if it's available during the airing season in 4K, then what's to stop people from skipping it during it's airtime and instead just watching it the next day in 4K, especially since it wouldn't be available in 4K on the TV screen?

The other concern is, while I haven't checked recently, if I'm remembering correctly, currently airing TV Series seasons that include UV are only UV after they comes out on DVD/Blu-ray. When the current season is airing, while it's available for sale, from Vudu for example, it's not UV at that point. What I'm concerned about is would it be "Movies Anywhere" immediately, or would you have to wait for it to come out on disc, and hope your purchase during the season is transferred over to MA.

Last thing first - there are definitely TV shows that are UV during the current season. The only one coming to mind right now is Supergirl but I know there were more. It's a studio's choice.

Other than that, I'm not sure how MA would be different than UV. If you buy a season now you may have to hope it comes out on disc and then becomes UV. I think the studios need to do a much better job overall with TV but I'm not sure how MA would be any worse than the status quo.

But MA doesn't have any TV in it yet.

Regarding 4K, I don't understand. If people want to pay full price for a 4K season pass, how will the studio lose money if they don't watch it during airtime? People currently pay full price for an HD season pass and that situation seems the same to me. Since the studios make much more on season passes than from advertising I don't know how this would be a negative for them.

[Salamurai]

Originally Posted by kidkash

I mean when was the last time someone bought a CD.

last week

and also, in about 2 weeks, I expect.

[Kendog52361]

Originally Posted by Zu Nim

Regarding 4K, I don't understand. If people want to pay full price for a 4K season pass, how will the studio lose money if they don't watch it during airtime? People currently pay full price for an HD season pass and that situation seems the same to me. Since the studios make much more on season passes than from advertising I don't know how this would be a negative for them.

Part of it was advertising revenue as you mentioned. The other aspect, for me, was watching it on the TV has that whole Nielson Rating thing. In other words, it says how popular your show is and whether it's likely to be renewed. As for the current situation, currently, while you can buy the show in Full HD, watching it when it airs on TV, you can still watch it at 720P or 1080i.

That visual difference between them isn't that big and not really detectable for the average viewer. However, if you have the choice of watching your favorite show at 720P during the TV Airing, with commercials, or at 4K on your 4K TV or Computer, by only waiting a day, I'm betting many people would choose the latter.

I don't know how much a studio makes on a season pass versus an airing on TV, but it's those other things the airing on TV gives them that I'm wondering about. Things such as, advertising revenue as mentioned above, but also amount of viewership affecting whether it'll even be renewed. While I'm sure there are those who skip it on the night a show airs, and instead watches the streaming from the website the next day, I think that still gives them viewership numbers.

[kidkash]

Originally Posted by Zu Nim

It opens up opportunities for each company to try grabbing revenue and customers from the others. I might buy the hot $5 title at Amazon today intending to watch it on iTunes but maybe I watch on Amazon and decide it's a better experience for me. Apple might be at greater risk in this scenario but they might lose more revenue growth by not joining. With Amazon and Vudu announced for Apple TV they need to persuade people to keep buying on iTunes. If people feel their purchases are locked into iTunes some will be driven to buy elsewhere. MA might stanch that flow.

That's my point I mean Amazon and apple never joined uv. They are really in their own leagues neither really needs film or television to survive. So why do we assume they would join this and if they did it would almost definitely mean the death of vudu. I'm not against merging my accounts I have a ton in Amazon I'd love on vudu and vice versa but I can't imagine either Amazon or iTunes agreeing to this.

[bladerunner1]

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by TheDean

Im still not sure where all this info has come from exactly. But I'm glad its happening. I was kind of expecting it since most studios call UV Digital HD. Now with the word UV removed from Warner titles and the word "Digital" appearing on upcoming releases from Warner, Sony, Universal, and Disney it seems to be happening. Fox still says Digital HD, but they quit advertising UV long before anyone one else.

I'm just glad I will finally be able to redeem this stack of mostly useless codes.





UV hasn't caught on with the general population. Ultraviolet always reminds me of skin cancer.

Buying digital from anywhere hasn't caught on with the general population. I even posted a thread on here about it awhile back. J6P isn't buying movies in any format. He/She is paying his/her 8 bucks or whatever it is for Netflix.

He/She is also torrenting, Kodi ing and straight up watching movies online. They don't care about quality when it's free. Heck, even my 70 yr. old dad has Kodi.,(I tried to talk him out of it fwiw) and everyone i know thinks i'm crazy for still buying this stuff.

To be honest because of all these things.. i fear for the future of my digital collection. I'm not sure the enthusiast is enough to keep the doors open.

[Zu Nim]

Originally Posted by Kendog52361

Part of it was advertising revenue as you mentioned. The other aspect, for me, was watching it on the TV has that whole Nielson Rating thing. In other words, it says how popular your show is and whether it's likely to be renewed. As for the current situation, currently, while you can buy the show in Full HD, watching it when it airs on TV, you can still watch it at 720P or 1080i.

That visual difference between them isn't that big and not really detectable for the average viewer. However, if you have the choice of watching your favorite show at 720P during the TV Airing, with commercials, or at 4K on your 4K TV or Computer, by only waiting a day, I'm betting many people would choose the latter.

I don't know how much a studio makes on a season pass versus an airing on TV, but it's those other things the airing on TV gives them that I'm wondering about. Things such as, advertising revenue as mentioned above, but also amount of viewership affecting whether it'll even be renewed. While I'm sure there are those who skip it on the night a show airs, and instead watches the streaming from the website the next day, I think that still gives them viewership numbers.

At the start of the decade, the average revenue per viewer per episode was under a buck, often much, much less. A little math for season 5 of The Walking Dead: $400k per ad spot, figure 30 spots per show (15 minutes of network ads, not including local ad revenue), that's $12M in revenue per episode. I'm going to say that there were an average of 18M viewers per episode but choose what you like. That's 66 cents per viewer per episode for a show with a pretty good share. It's not often you see a highly rated current season pass going for less than $1/episode so I conclude those passes are more profitable than advertising.

I don't see how Nielsen matters since someone watching the show based on a purchase shouldn't be included in estimating viewership for advertising. If there are fewer people watching ad-based TV but are buying it instead it makes no difference to the studio. If those 18M Walking Dead viewers were all season pass holders do you think that makes TWD less popular or less profitable? No.

As far as 4K, I think you'd be disappointed. Look at how many people have been buying DVDs up until recently and how many people watched SD channels on their HD TVs for years. Most people care about the story and price and not quality. They'll take better quality but aren't willing to spend much on it.