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Old 03-30-2012, 09:24 PM   #1
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SIAP, but noticed that Universal is releasing a Blu-ray + DVD of Spartacus on June 5. (Amazon preorder posted today.) Any information if this will be a remaster of the abominable initial release a la Out of Africa?
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:29 PM   #3
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No news that I've heard of, at least in regards to Universal.

Some people believe Criterion will be putting out their own version this year - they released a photo of someone working on their 2012 schedule, and one of the names on the various pieces of paper looked kind of like "Spartacus." But the pieces of paper were not clear at all in the photo, so it's really still conjecture. We can hope. Though if they're stuck with the same master (presumably they don't have access to the actual film, just whatever master Universal supplies them) there is a limit to what they can do - their release might just be like the Universal HD DVD, before they applied the DNR on the Blu-ray release.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:36 PM   #4
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Looks like it's just a re-release of the same BD with a DVD and a Digital copy as well.

Here's the placeholder image from amazon.ca:



It's possible it could just be part of Universal's 100th Anniversary re-releases.
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:19 AM   #5
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really want this remastered.

I finally broke down and bought the current blu-ray thinking "how bad can it really be?"

Well, it was WORSE than I could have imagined. It just looks like digital-garble... no detail, and a digital "smear" that just looks horrid. I can't watch it this way, so the BD sits on the shelf waiting for a replacement to come along.
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:37 AM   #6
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I expect we'll get a Criterion release at some point.
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Looks like it's just a re-release of the same BD with a DVD and a Digital copy as well.

Here's the placeholder image from amazon.ca:

It's possible it could just be part of Universal's 100th Anniversary re-releases.
When I saw this thread I went looking for some info on the release and was going to post this must be an Amazon screw-up until I saw your pic. After doing some digging what I found was a book called Spartacus The Gladiator which also happens to have the same release date of June 5th 2012. Weird ....

http://www.amazon.com/Spartacus-The-Gladiator-Ben-Kane/dp/1250001161/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1333153012&sr=1-1
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It'll be a nice surprise if Universal does redo it, a la Out of Africa. Spartacus is the one Kubrick film I haven't bought on Blu-Ray yet solely due to Universal's botching of the transfer. With that said, I'm not expecting to put down money for a copy unless Criterion gets to work their magic.

I could be wrong though. They redid Out of Africa, so it's possible...
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Between To Kill a Mockingbird and Out of Africa, I've finally detected a faint pulse of competence at Universal, but this would be a more expensive undertaking than those two and I very much doubt they'll go for it.
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In his HTF blog, Spartacus restorer Robert A. Harris reports that this new release is simply a repackaging of the original and encourages fans of the film to avoid it.
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Been holding out for this one. Guess I'll still be holding out.

Come on Criterion!!
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One of my Top 5 films.

I had the HD DVD and while it didn't look good, or average, I could make it through the film. The BD is an abomination. They went and took an already horrid image and DNR'd the crap out of it!! It's really an embarassment!!
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Looks like it's just a re-release of the same BD with a DVD and a Digital copy as well.

Here's the placeholder image from amazon.ca:

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It's possible it could just be part of Universal's 100th Anniversary re-releases.
Looks like this was all correct. It's a re-release under the 100th annivesary branding, with the DVD and Digital copy added.

cover art:

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Looks like this was all correct. It's a re-release under the 100th annivesary branding, with the DVD and Digital copy added.
I am weeping inside...

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Between To Kill a Mockingbird and Out of Africa, I've finally detected a faint pulse of competence at Universal, but this would be a more expensive undertaking than those two and I very much doubt they'll go for it.
Spartacus is in need of major work and Universal is simply too cheap to restore it. People are going to have to wait for the next video format to see Spartacus look excellent.
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Spartacus is in need of major work and Universal is simply too cheap to restore it. People are going to have to wait for the next video format to see Spartacus look excellent.
That's it. No different than The Big Lebowksi.
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People are going to have to wait for the next video format to see Spartacus look excellent.
Or a Criterion release..
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Or a Criterion release..
Criterion is not going to restore the film by any means. Presumably it would look slightly better than the Universal BD, but there is only so much lipstick one can put on a pig. I would not expect any Criterion BD made from the existing master to look much better.
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Criterion is not going to restore the film by any means. Presumably it would look slightly better than the Universal BD, but there is only so much lipstick one can put on a pig. I would not expect any Criterion BD made from the existing master to look much better.
Me, I would settle for a non-restored transfer, but free of noise reduction.
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Criterion is not going to restore the film by any means. Presumably it would look slightly better than the Universal BD, but there is only so much lipstick one can put on a pig. I would not expect any Criterion BD made from the existing master to look much better.
I don't believe that.

If Spartacus was given a proper remaster it would look fantastic. It's not like it was a small independent film that never looked very good in the first place.

It's a Stanley Kubrick film and deserves better than what Universal gave it.

If Taxi Driver and A Trip To The Moon can look so good on Blu-ray, why wouldn't Criterion or some other company put in the money to give the film the remaster it deserves?
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