DVDs on Blu-ray players vs. DVD upconvert players on HDTV ?

[clawhn]

i have hdtv, i dont have a blu ray player yet,..i do have a dvd upconvert hdmi im using and for some reason it has a ghost like border on white edges when using 480p and is even worse in 720 p...so im using 480p to minimize the edge ghost effect (and i tried another brand dvd upconvert and it did the same thing)

my question is this, if i get a blu ray player and only play dvds(not blu ray disks) on it, will the picture quality be better than what im using now which is a panasonic upconvert hdmi signal ?

[Vonscoot]

Originally Posted by clawhn

i have hdtv, i dont have a blu ray player yet,..i do have a dvd upconvert hdmi im using and for some reason it has a ghost like border on white edges when using 480p and is even worse in 720 p...so im using 480p to minimize the edge ghost effect (and i tried another brand dvd upconvert and it did the same thing)

my question is this, if i get a blu ray player and only play dvds(not blu ray disks) on it, will the picture quality be better than what im using now which is a panasonic upconvert hdmi signal ?

While most blu-ray players do support upconversion, you will not likely see a difference versus your current dvd player. If you really wish to eliminate the ghost-like border and fully enjoy the benefits of your HDTV, drop the money for a blu-ray player AND blu-ray movies.

[clawhn]

Originally Posted by Vonscoot

While most blu-ray players do support upconversion, you will not likely see a difference versus your current dvd player. If you really wish to eliminate the ghost-like border and fully enjoy the benefits of your HDTV, drop the money for a blu-ray player AND blu-ray movies.

so is this ghost like border common? or do I have a defective tv? its brand new sony ...i dont know if its the tv or just dvd upconvert common problem, or if i should get a better dvd up convert player...

you make it sound like a blu ray player will fix the problem..i hope so, because i hope theres nothing wrong with my tv or dvd player or hdmi processor in my tv..

HD cable channels are perfect, no borders..and the hdmi cable is connected fully, and i already tried all the settings on the tv to reduce it the best i can

Im just worried, that if its the hdmi processor in the tv, that if i get a blu ray player that the same ghost border will exist. Im worried about that.

[blu_world]

maybe his HD tv has like 12 ms or more response time


thats causing the ghosting image

[clyon]

Originally Posted by clawhn

so is this ghost like border common? or do I have a defective tv? its brand new sony ...i dont know if its the tv or just dvd upconvert common problem, or if i should get a better dvd up convert player...

you make it sound like a blu ray player will fix the problem..i hope so, because i hope theres nothing wrong with my tv or dvd player or hdmi processor in my tv..

HD cable channels are perfect, no borders..and the hdmi cable is connected fully, and i already tried all the settings on the tv to reduce it the best i can

Im just worried, that if its the hdmi processor in the tv, that if i get a blu ray player that the same ghost border will exist. Im worried about that.

Hook-up the dvd player to another tv.


Sounds like it is the tv, is it LCD? If so it is light leakage, this will show up in the black areas only.

What are the settings set at on the tv?

In custom mode:

turn down the back light
Turn on powersaver mode On
Drop the brightness
try changing the color temp (I get the best blacks on warm1)

[richard lichtenfelt]

The PS3 upconverts and mine does so flawlessly. I'm watching on a Sony 40" lcd and the reg. dvds play in the PS3 with a huge increase in quality. Still not nearly as good as blu-rays of course.
I've never seen the edges or ghosting that you're talking about so I have no idea if it is your tv, player, or connections.

[Deciazulado]

or maybe the "ghost line" is too much edge enhancement?

[takezo]

It's the same.

Upsampling, unlike what most companies advertise it as increasing resolution of the video. It really is not (well techncally yes and no, very complicated techie stuff).

Upsamling looks better than normal DVD playback because of the fact that DVD is encoded at 480i which is 720 x 240, Progressive scan DVD players actualy double resolution of DVDs by deinterlacing DVDs back to their original 24 frame per second, 480p film encoding. Progressive scan DVD player deinterlacing is a very basic feild based decombing with blending. Upsampling players, use far better deinterlacing filters which improve video quality, the 480p video is then resized to 720p, 1080i, or even 1080p. Many Upsampling DVD players use deblocking filters with resizing which smooth out pixelizations, this improves video quality of DVD playback on large screen TVs. But for TV's 37" inches and below your upsampling player will look the same even if you set HDMI out to 480p.

Blu-ray movies are filmed in 1080p which means that video is actual HD, while DVD is only SD, no mater what you do to it.

As for your issue with HDMI, besure to have your connector on your player and TV plauged in good, check your player manual to see if there are setting you can monkey with to fix problem or TV manual to adjust collor settings etc..

[WickyWoo]

The biggest benefit of an upscaling DVD player is the lack of Digital>analog>digital conversion