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Old 04-15-2008, 07:20 AM   #101
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Friends i am So intrested in this thread. But i have no idea on how to even begin to do any of this. This is what i have on another thread so please inform me on what needs to be done.

"I bought my PS3 purely for Blu-ray. I am a true XBOX gamer that that is neither here nor there. I see the diffrence in Blu-ray and picture quality but how do i go about making sure that i have everything connecting to the upmost qulaity to include sound and picture quality. I just need to know that i have it all set up right.. Her eare a few pics of what i have going on.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TH-5.../dp/B000F4CTUK

http://www.dmunsterstv.com/SC-HT940sound.jpg

http://www.cnet.com.au/story_media/3...unveiled_6.jpg

http://www.epinions.com/Panasonic_SC...splay_~reviews

any and all feedbacks are greatly appreciated. Please Private Message me if you must. Thanks again."
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Old 04-15-2008, 07:44 AM   #102
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I've been having a problem playing my PS3 on my HDTV. Movies always look too dark.

I don't see how calibrating can help me at all, because I have the brightness on my TV turned up all the way. Is there anything more I can do?
Sounds like you have your RGB setting to full (found under settings > Display Settings > RGB Full Range). That setting tends to blacken an image and from my limited understanding, most HDTV's don't support the full range. I'd recommend changing it from full to limited...if it was set to full in the first place.
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:28 PM   #103
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What's the best way to calibrate my 50PX77U? I primarily use it during the day.
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Old 04-22-2008, 09:32 PM   #104
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What's the best way to calibrate my 50PX77U? I primarily use it during the day.
ISF Calibration. done during the day. This is not a disc you buy and adjust your color and brightness.
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:59 AM   #105
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ISF Calibration. done during the day. This is not a disc you buy and adjust your color and brightness.
Don't have the $$$ for that at the moment. What can I do on my own to get the best PQ for free?
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Old 04-23-2008, 05:14 AM   #106
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You bought a $1500-$2000 TV (depending on when you bought it) but you didn't want to spend $200 to get it calibrated? Nice play.

Anyway, you can get one of those calibration discs. That's your best bet, but you get what you pay for.
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:31 AM   #107
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anybody know of any companies nationwide that calibrate tv/audio? that is not BB/CC
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:33 AM   #108
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If you are looking for someone, you can check the ISF website to contact someone locally i believe. From what I have heard, BB has ISF certified people. I am not sure about CC.
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:34 AM   #109
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what does isf stand for?
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:36 AM   #110
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I wonder how the tv feels after it has been calibrated

if ya know what i mean
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:36 AM   #111
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Thought it would be appropriate to start (another) thread to be stickied in the Display section that would stress the importance of calibrating your television, new or old. I feel that many new adopters to the HDTV world may not understand why the need for such adjustments should be made.

Not only can a proper calibration produce a pristine picture, but it could also add a longer lifespan to the set. As most of you well know, the settings right out of the box are usually way off and leaving it set incorrectly could pose a risk over time as well as produce a sub-optimal picture. That is why it is important to properly adjust your TV display settings (Brightness,Contrast,Color,Tint,Sharpness...etc) for each and every input connected to the television.

The best form of calibration is to have a professional do it for you. Which is termed an ISF Calibration. This method involves having a professional come to your home and using special equipment can make accurate adjustments to the various TV settings. It is highly accurate and is the most beneficial way to calibrate a television. But it does come with a price tag. You're looking at least a couple hundred dollars.

Another way is to use a Calibration DVD. This is a very simple way to "do it yourself" and is very inexpensive compared to an ISF calibration. Although it is not as thorough and precise as the ISF, it can be very beneficial to each and every television. There are a couple of different calibration dvd's out there, but two of the most popular are Digital Video Essentials and AVIA Guide to Home Theater. You could potentially save yourself money in the long run by owning a calibration DVD, not to mention producing a much better looking picture. NOTE: The DVD versions will help you adjust for standard definition but may not be ideal with an HD source.

For HD calibration, there are a couple of ways to do this. For instance all SONY bluray titles contain an "easter egg" with test patterns. At the menu screen press the numbers 7-6-6-9 and hit enter. Maybe someone can post with an easy way to explain how to use these test patterns as it is not for beginners? Another way is an extra that is provided on the bluray movie Ratatouille which also contains test patterns but comes with somewhat of an instruction on how to use.

Also in March there is a Bluray version release of Digital Video Essential: HD Basics
which I would highly recommend to anyone.

Hopefully this will help bring others a better viewing experience to their movie's because nothing beats a properly calibrated picture.




*Share Your Custom Display Settings*: If you cannot afford an ISF Calibration or do not own a calibration dvd, then take a look in these threads. They are not meant to replace true self/professional calibration, but may benefit you more than the factory settings.


Additional info:

How To Use Color Bars

Digital Video Essentials (DVE) Overview

Basic Television Setup Tips

Monster HDTV Calibration Wizard

Tune Up Your Television

Picture perfect: HDTV tune-up tips

Precision Video: "Helping You Enjoy the View"

Pro HDTV calibration: rip-off or money well spent?

What Adjustments Are Made With An ISF Calibration?

TweakTV.com





Below is an attachment of a response from Mr. Joe Kane himself on the advantages of the new DVE: HD Basics vs. the standard def. version.


Thank you. This is one of the most resourceful and well written post I've seen. THANKS...!!!
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:37 AM   #112
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what does isf stand for?
Imaging Science Foundation.

http://www.imagingscience.com/
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Old 05-01-2008, 04:56 AM   #113
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Imaging Science Foundation.

http://www.imagingscience.com/
Hey there ToonyLoons. Saw your GTA4 post. Very informative....

I'm tempted to buy GTA4 (first time with the GTA series), but COD4 and almost every other "made with the xbox360 in mind" game other than GRAW2 and marvel ultimate alliance have disappointed me.


Is GTA4 going to be another COD4 (disappointment) or GRAW2 (pleasant surprise)?
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:13 AM   #114
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I have mine scheduled for calibration on Friday May 16th. I purchased my 47" @ BB and they had a special going, knocking $200 off the calibration. It was supposed to be $100 , but the guy forgot to add it to the initial purchase. It was 20 minutes after the store had closed so the guy was in a hurry to do a separate transaction and ended up giving it to us for $86.
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Old 05-01-2008, 10:49 PM   #115
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I am looking forward to getting my tv calibrated but I have to wait til July 22nd.
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Old 05-02-2008, 04:35 AM   #116
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I am looking forward to getting my tv calibrated but I have to wait til July 22nd.
My DVE should be here tomorrow or on Monday. Hope it works well...better than the THX optimizer.
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Old 05-02-2008, 05:55 PM   #117
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i set my video setting brightness 51
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hue 51
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Old 05-03-2008, 06:01 AM   #118
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Darn...my copy is coming this monday...

Dangit...I thought I'd save $2-$5 to have it ship to me standard rather than two day, believing that it would arrive in three days. It's going to take 8 days afterall. But hopefully, it's worth it, in obtaining color accuracy, at least.

It's going to be really difficult to get accurate colors on my Sharp Aquos (year 2000-2003) model. The reason for this is because my sharp has too many color adjusting bars. You can adjust the hue / brightness / and saturation for each of these colors -- blue, red, green, magenta, cyan, and yellow. That's too many variables to change...!!!!

I'm doing all this in anticipation for MGS4, Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, and maybe GTA4 and any cool bluray movies. I'm aiming for the natural "film" look. Got the rumble in anticipation for MGS4, too. ha ha...

Never played MGS before. Never played GTA either. Wonder if GTA4 has rumble.





Hope Digitial video essentials will hit the sweet spot for my television. The current standard def THX optimizer is already doing a pretty good job (I like the brightness test. I'm not satisfied with the contrast, sharpness, and color accuracy test). The results are pretty accurate colors, but the picture is a bit dark.












If anyone has a copy of DVE for bluray, can you give me a headsup tutorial on how to use the tests and anything else about the disc. I'd appreciate it.



Thanks.
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Old 05-03-2008, 11:36 PM   #119
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If anyone has a copy of DVE for bluray, can you give me a headsup tutorial on how to use the tests and anything else about the disc. I'd appreciate it.
going through the disc the first time, you will think it runs to fast for you to do anything...but learn what you need to do and there is an option at the menu to pull up the test patterns by themselves, which will give you the needed time to make adjustments.
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Old 05-03-2008, 11:41 PM   #120
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In response to this thread, I work for Magnolia and we have ISF certified technicians who calibrate TV's. Samsung TV's are set worst out of the box, Sharp is set alright, Sony is pretty good, Panasonic is pretty good, and Pioneer are set the best. Each one when calibrated will still be improved though. Samsung can be improved the most because they are set so poorly from the manufacturer. Sony has the most features to play with, so they will look the best when done (most accurate). Sharp doesn't give ISF their codes to access gray scale, so we can only do so much, and Panasonic looks pretty amazing after calibrated. As flawless as pioneer always looks, imagine even better. That is a quick run down on which TV's really should be calibrated, and which ones don't need it so much. Samsung needs it a lot. Sony although good, will look the best. Panasonic will look amazing. Sharp has limited abilities, and Pioneer near flawless.
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