JVC's 2019 NX5, NX7 & NX9 projectors

[sapiendut]

It’s the Sony that’s close to JVC. I’m still surprised that a new projector priced higher than the JVC that’s 2 years old still wins.

[samlop10]

The NX7 is definitely better than that new Sony. Especially with how it handles HDR. The tone mapping on the Sony is still lacking, whereas the NX7 has dynamic tone mapping (probably the most advanced one on any consumer display), not to mention it has better overall contrast and better black levels. I would not choose any projector over the NX7 if I had a dedicated room, except maybe for the NX9 or other 6-figure projectors like the Christie Eclipse. The Sony might have slightly better image processing on a couple of areas, but the JVC NX7 surpasses it on almost everything else.

[GenPion]

Originally Posted by samlop10

The NX7 is definitely better than that new Sony. Especially with how it handles HDR. The tone mapping on the Sony is still lacking, whereas the NX7 has dynamic tone mapping (probably the most advanced one on any consumer display), not to mention it has better overall contrast and better black levels. I would not choose any projector over the NX7 if I had a dedicated room, except maybe for the NX9 or other 6-figure projectors like the Christie Eclipse. The Sony might have slightly better image processing on a couple of areas, but the JVC NX7 surpasses it on almost everything else.

From what I have read, I agree.

I also found the Christie Eclipse extremely enticing but that’s obviously out of the question. That projector is for Christopher Nolan.

[GenPion]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

That’s literally the first time I heard anybody claim about Panasonic being less sharp than the 203. I used to own the 203 and both are identically as sharp (UB820 vs UB9000 vs 203).

That was my experience. I carefully compared several discs. The Oppo produces a sharper image. One has to be extremely OCD to notice.

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by GenPion

From what I have read, I agree.

I also found the Christie Eclipse extremely enticing but that’s obviously out of the question. That projector is for Christopher Nolan.

Yeah that Christie looks like a dream come true but it’s not only huge in size, it’s more expensive than some houses. Hopefully the technology will trickle down in the not-too-distant-future to actual affordable prices.

For now, I’m hoping JVC will release a successor to the NX7 that uses laser and improves the contrast and black levels a bit. Most likely won’t happen this year but maybe in 2022.

[Rui]

finally received my NX7 today but still waiting on the screen....ughhh

[larrymcdowell]

I've been thinking about swapping my x7000 for the NX7 for a while. I am full of doubts, basically because in some forums I read that I would lose almost 40,000 points of native contrast. Of course it would gain resolution but, will it be so much difference? Soon I will have a dedicated room (I finally got TBV curtains) and I think the x7000 can still give me a lot of joy. What do you think?

[sapiendut]

Get the NX7, you won’t regret it. You don’t only gain in resolution. You’ll get HDR and WCG too.

[larrymcdowell]

I'll think it. I play all my bd disc with madvr and i think the results are so great. But when we talk about color...i think that point its a good point to take leap.

[Rui]

I finally got my motorized screen & NX7 mounted a few days ago and have been playing around with things.

Any tips on settings that can be changed for improved performance? I've noticed that 3D content looks better with the lamp on high. any other 3D tweaks?

Still waiting on the Panasonic DP-UB9000 I ordered in January

[sapiendut]

Update the firmware to the latest one. That’s a must.

[Rui]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Update the firmware to the latest one. That’s a must.

It came with the latest one already on it.

[Rui]

Picked up my Panasonic DP-UB9000 today. Is there any benefit to using it for standard/3D blu-rays or should I just use my Oppo BDP-93 for those?

[Rui]

I set my Panasonic UB9000's HDR Optimizer to Basic Luminance Projector and set the NX7's HDR to Frame Adapt and then popped in the 4K 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood...' disc as my first UHD disc on my new set up.

WOW. The HDR was fantastic. Absolutely film like. Really impressed and happy with the results.

Now I just need to tweak the settings to get the best results for my Apple TV 4K.

[Rui]

I found this post at AVS Science and he has some tips on a UB9000 and NX7 as well as the Apple TV. He seems to be saying to not use the UB9000's HDR Optimizer (but this also may have been before the latest NX7 firmware).

Any thoughts on his recommendations?

https://discuss.avscience.com/index.php?topic=2508.0

[idlebrain]

Originally Posted by Rui

I found this post at AVS Science and he has some tips on a UB9000 and NX7 as well as the Apple TV. He seems to be saying to not use the UB9000's HDR Optimizer (but this also may have been before the latest NX7 firmware).

Any thoughts on his recommendations?

https://discuss.avscience.com/index.php?topic=2508.0

From JVC's FW 3.10 onwards , Set HDR Optimizer off on UB9000 and let JVC do the DTM.

[ronboster]

I'm in a little bit of a conundrum, I have (and really like) my JVC 540 projector. I've been very happy with it's performance. I know that even with tweaking and the a Panny 820, I'm not getting the performance the new line would provide.

I'm looking for other's feedback: Should I wait till later in the year/early 2022 for the possibility of a new line of JVC projectors, then take advantage of the inevitable price drops on this current line (maybe buy the NX7 vs the NX5-which is what I'd buy now)? Or, buy now and spend the extra 11 months enjoying a new projector vs waiting for something that may not come to fruition?

You can see how I framed the questions, I'm leaning towards the later.

[Rui]

Originally Posted by idlebrain

From JVC's FW 3.10 onwards , Set HDR Optimizer off on UB9000 and let JVC do the DTM.

this seems to be at odds with this earlier recommendation:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Panasonic's UB9000 adds the 2nd projector HDR Optimizer option. So you have High Luminance Projector and Mid Luminance Projector, the UB820 only has High Luminance projector.

You want the UB9000 to take advantage of Panasonic's priority HDR Optimizer so you can see the full dynamic tonal range and all of the color volume that is mastered in HDR content.

The HDR Optimizer is not about tone mapping that JVC's projectors do a very good job with the new Frame Adapt update. You will greatly benefit by paring any projector with Panasonic's UB9000's HDR Optimizer to repackage the EOTF PQ curve to a far more manageable peak luminance that your projector can take over and apply its tone mapping.

Other than integrating a Lumagen video processor, Panasonic's UB9000 is the only way to see the full benefits of HDR content in a Home Cinema presentation.

which is why I was wondering if the 3.50 firmware update on the NX7 had changed things.

For what it's worth I've set up my UB9000's HDR optimizer to 'Basic luminance projector" and have the HDR frame adapt on the NX7 and I've been very pleased with the results, but I haven't done an A/B comparison. Maybe I'll try tonight...

[gates70]

Originally Posted by Rui

this seems to be at odds with this earlier recommendation:



which is why I was wondering if the 3.50 firmware update on the NX7 had changed things.

For what it's worth I've set up my UB9000's HDR optimizer to 'Basic luminance projector" and have the HDR frame adapt on the NX7 and I've been very pleased with the results, but I haven't done an A/B comparison. Maybe I'll try tonight...

I don't think the tone mapping has anything to do with the 'Basic luminance projector' setting, unless I'm remembering wrong. My Panasonic has been in a box for the last 7 months until my room is finished building.

[idlebrain]

Originally Posted by Rui

this seems to be at odds with this earlier recommendation:



which is why I was wondering if the 3.50 firmware update on the NX7 had changed things.

For what it's worth I've set up my UB9000's HDR optimizer to 'Basic luminance projector" and have the HDR frame adapt on the NX7 and I've been very pleased with the results, but I haven't done an A/B comparison. Maybe I'll try tonight...

Dynamic Tone mapping of JVC using Frame Adapt is widely favored over Panasonic HDR optimizer from FW 3.10.
Even with Optimizer off you can use optimizer controls to set brightness, contrast etc on the HDR optimizer menu to get better PQ curve.
Here is blog from Kris on FW 3.50 and his opinion on Panasonic HDR optimizer.
https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...mizer-function

There are good posts from Kris, Geoff and other experts in Panny 9000/820 thread on UHD section to understand Panny Optimizer usage.

FWIW I got my system calibrated by ChadB twice since the release of 3.10. He prefers not to use Panny HDR Opt, gives him more control to work with the JVC DTM